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2018-10-21, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-21, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
What makes more sense?
That the character who is explicitly based on a character who is an adult that looks like a small child, who attends a school that is otherwise exclusivly attended by young adults(and not the school for children in the same town,) and who acts in a manner not unlike an adult and who was treated like an adult when their evil schemes are foiled is an adult who only looks like a small child?
Or that Twilight Sparkle inexplicably admitted a small child to her University and only the one small child and then later the Princesses inexplicably senteneced the small child like an adult?Last edited by Rater202; 2018-10-21 at 01:24 PM.
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2018-10-21, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-21, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
What else do you call a school that provides additional education to young adults exclusively?
If I reform the statement into "Twilight inexplicably letting a small child and only the one small into her school that otherwise caters exclusivly to young adults?"
Cozy acts like an adult, is treated like an adult, attends a school that otherwise is only attended by adults, and is explicitly based on a character who was an adult who only looked like a child.
The simplest answer is that Cozy is an adult who just happens to look like a child.
The alternative, that Cozy is an adult, requires a large percentage of the cast--the Princesses and Twilights friends, to inexplicably allow a student who is far too young to be attending the Friendship School, which, again, is otherwise attended only by young adults and even had an episode showcasing that small children werren't among the student body, which either means that Twilight randomly made an exception adn only one exception for no given reason or that the School doesn't have an age requirement and then the Crusaders not being able to enroll becoems a plot hole.
What's the simplest solution, the one that requires our heroes to stupidly arbitrary and/or needlessly cruel or else triggers a huge plothole or the one where characters who are not depicted as stupid are not, in fact, stupid and there's no plothole?
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2018-10-21, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
Any number of things. I'd call TSSF something like a yeshiva. Also, assuming the conclusion again. TSSF, in your view, provides education only to adults, therefore every student must be an adult. But that doesn't jive with what we are shown. The season's gimmick characters are the "young six." The reason the CMC couldn't enroll was because they had "mastered the curriculum," not because they were too young.
Cozy acts like an adult, is treated like an adult, attends a school that otherwise is only attended by adults, and is explicitly based on a character who was an adult who only looked like a child.
The simplest answer is that Cozy is an adult who just happens to look like a child.
The alternative, that Cozy is an adult, requires a large percentage of the cast--the Princesses and Twilights friends, to inexplicably allow a student who is far too young to be attending the Friendship School
What's the simplest solution, the one that requires our heroes to stupidly arbitrary and/or needlessly cruel or else triggers a huge plothole or the one where characters who are not depicted as stupid are not, in fact, stupid and there's no plothole?Last edited by zimmerwald1915; 2018-10-21 at 03:35 PM.
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2018-10-21, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
Yum, fimfic
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so far: Number 12 (Great! Felt like a perfect traslation of the 11th doctor into a pony regeneration), The Writing on the Wall, The Celestia Code / The Luna Cypher (first was more entertaining than the second, but in fairness that's because I was less interested in the primary shipping of the second one), and a bunch of shorts that I didn't bother to download.
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In progress: Twilight Enigma, Changeling of the Guard, Social Safety Net, and Hard Reset
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Enchanted Library has been downloaded onto my kindle, but not started yet.
And, I need to get the sequels to Number 12 -- this is a well-done Dr. Whooves.Last edited by keybounce; 2018-10-21 at 04:59 PM.
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2018-10-21, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
When it comes to ponyfic recommendations a great and hilarious but lesser known series is The Flash Sentry Papers by Tumbleweed. Starting with The Prisoner of Zebra. They're a tribute to The Flashman Papers. RPG and Wargame nerds are probably more familiar with the Ciaphas Cain novels of Warhammer 40k which were also inspired by The Flashman Papers.
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2018-10-21, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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This was a great discussion. I think it also identifies why I like the fanfiction Austraeoh so much.
It's a story about vast, crushing loneliness. But whenever Rainbow reaches a community her old personality just clicks into place. But the way the writer approaches it is from such a... distance. Like, when she's alone, we're always in her thoughts, but when she's with other people there's absolutely no explanation given for anything she does - it's all just instinct, instinct, reactions. The dialogue feels fake but that's because she's faking it whenever she opens her mouth.
It's endlessly fascinating from a technical perspective. It does so much to fill the mood of the story.
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2018-10-22, 06:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
But that's just it. Cozy is locked up in Tartarus with her mentor/pen pal.
And that latter adjective bothers me more. How were they keeping in touch? Who's delivering mail to Tartarus?
Yeah, the idea that cozy is an adult stuck in a child body is more headcanon than show proper.
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2018-10-22, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-22, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
I started preparing for an Exalted campaign... and now all the major freakouts in MLP seem like expressions of the Great Curse.
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2018-10-22, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
Nightmare Night is coming up soon for those of us who celebrate said holiday. Is anyone doing anything fun?
I am planning to carve a pumpkin in some pony theme, probably Celestia raising the sun this year.
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2018-10-22, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Probably nothing. It's in the middle of the week this year, so you're either going really early, really late, or fighting all the other commitments people have.
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2018-10-22, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-22, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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I just finished Austraeoh - the first part at least. It's a hell of a story and I recommend giving it another shot.
It reads like a NaNoWriMo project. It's rushed - there are uncorrected typos, inelegant word choice, clearly in need of an editing pass - but I think it's curiously stronger for not having one. Everything in the writing bends towards that constant eastwards pressure. Like the author never looked backwards for a second. And given the timeframe it was written in I think that might actually be the case.
As a story, I loved it. I think it's my favourite ponyfic since Equestria From Dust. I know it's a monumental billion-word monolith but at the end of this first part of the story I feel like I really am on a journey to the end of the world. Never before has travel in a story felt so... immense. A world vast, and filled with wonders.
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2018-10-23, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-23, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
Guh. So desparately short of "cleaning front room telly" - especially since if I don't fraggging re-hang the curtains, no-one will - that I ended up seeing if I could find anything even remotely watchable on Netflix and ended up trying One Punch Man.
It's mildly amusing.
Finally got something that looks like a vaguely passable photo of the GLA terrorists...
Spoiler: GLA Terrorists
Mmm. Not hugely convinced. Think they might need to be commerically printed, they're a bit manky and doesn't look hugely like the demo things showed up ever so well.Last edited by Aotrs Commander; 2018-10-23 at 11:18 AM.
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2018-10-23, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-24, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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So Virgin's birthday present to me was completely wiping out net and telly access about midnight last night while they were "improving the service," which left with with basically nothing to do, watch or read before meditation time. Hopefully the rest of the actual birthday goes better...
(But at leasst this year I don't have an appointment with the morons and am having the dining room carpet replaced like that one time...)
I had a slight redesign, and changed it to three sticks twice the thickness. And actually remembered - because it's my birthday and and thus I don't have to get distracted by having a list of work jobs to do - I managed to take a better picture.
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More betterer, as Grimlock would say - but the rule is still sadly "print one at a time" so I think I will have them done commerically, because I don't fancy printing the 40-odd infantry (not just the terrorists but the regulars) and if I go to i-imaterialise, I can probably get twice that for about £20 with postage (40 is still at their minimum).
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2018-10-24, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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So I've been reading the first sequel to number 12, and ... I'm losing the "this is good!" vibe from it.
Basically, the issue is the treatment of Twilight.
I can understand the first episode -- she was completely overwhelmed, lost her magic, lost any ability to take action, was confronted by things that had the potential to cause her effectively permanent banishment, and she freaked. Fine.
Once.
The second time around? It's no longer going to catch her by surprise.
And, she is well known around Ponyville/Canterlot.
To be presented as someone that wasn't known to the general population after saving Equestira multiple times / heroine ceremonies / talk of the newspapers? And still operating as a "Just follow the doctor around"?
... Should have gotten a no-name generic pony.
And now I see why other authors have either used Derpy, or Rose.Not "fire at". I never used the word "at"
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2018-10-24, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, s'not been a bad birthday at all. Did a walk this afternoon, got the last couple of Asterix books that I hadn't yet got, the first couple of DVDs of Dragonball Super (for when I've caught up with Naruto); also chocolate. And spent much of the rest of the the day reading more A Practical Guide to Evil (ince i was denied last night) and coming to the conclusion Catherine Foundling, may, in fact be the Actual Best. (Jubilee ought to be getting worried.) Whereas while I like Jubilee, if we ever met we would not, I fear get along very well, I would like to hazard Catherine and I would get along like a house on goblinfire. A villain, Evil protagonist who is motivated, sure by some sense of "make this right or at least organised" who might have been a Hero in other circumstances, but chose to be Evil. Not just once, but more than once. Like, proper chose.
Seriously, I'm a little concerned that he's going to start generating little blood-dripping antomically-correct hearts whenever she does something cool. And he's NEVER done that for anyone before...
And the Calamities in that story - the legendary villain-protagonist-older-generation - remind me oh so very much of the sort or rapport Lord Death Despoil and the high command share, it's kind of scary. Hell, the Dread Empire and the Legions of Terror could nearly be the Aotrs in a very early stage!
Doesn't get more civilised than this.Last edited by Aotrs Commander; 2018-10-24 at 05:16 PM.
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2018-10-24, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-10-24, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
What was the interaction between the ponies and other species in the past?
There was some interaction with the dragons since Flash Magnus was flying through the dragon lands when he became a hero. And that would predate the Discord era.
Luna does not seem surprised by any of the other species, so there may have been some interaction in the time frame between the 3 tribes and Nightmare Moon. For example, in the My Little Pony movie, Luna knows to head to the Hippogriff empire even though the empire had not existed in modern times since it was in hiding from the Storm King.
However, there seems to be little relations with most of the species until the Mane 6 arrive on the scene, see for example buffalo, yaks, griffons, dragons, hippogriffs, etc.
Was this because ponies were terrible at making friends before the Mane 6? Culd Discord have caused some of these problems? Or did Celestia close the borders after Nightmare Moon and turn the ponies' focus inwards?
<Of course the real reason is because of writers, but we can ignore that.>
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2018-10-24, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Simplest explanation is that with only one princess, Equestria was kind of limited in diplomatic outreach. Once you get princess-candidate Twilight on the scene, things start to get shaken up, but even with Luna coming back and Cadence coming from...somewhere (I can never remember), it was still a barely thawed freeze out until Twilight actually got the freaking tiara. Not sure if the bison count since they're actually in Equestria.
Showing the uselessness of Canterlot, really. First the Royal Guard can't guard anything and then nopony thinks to establish a diplomatic corps.
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2018-10-24, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Little Pony XCIX: Leakier Than A Changeling Bathtub!
I think it's safe to say that before Twilight and Spike there wasn't much positive interaction between dragons and ponies. Or at the very least the negative interactions greatly outweighed them. I'd imagine that in the past Celestia and Luna were powerful enough to drive back any dragon aggression once made aware of it. Meanwhile the average dragon is powerful enough to cause quite a bit of harm to the average stray pony. So they likely stayed separate to avoid outright conflict.
Most of the other species with the possible exception of hippogriffs also seemed to have varying degrees of hostility to ponies. It looks like most of that is possibly cultural. If I had to guess way back in time when earth ponies, pegasi,and unicorns formed a single nation and along with the emergence of alicorns, ponies quickly grew to become a world superpower that the other groups viewed as infringing on their own way of life and possibly threatening.
Maintaining some level of trade and diplomacy would have been important but mostly everyone just keeps to their own corners so as not to provoke international incidents. The ponies may not know much about the other cultures but they are at least aware of and in contact with them.Sparxs Plays: My friend's Youtube gaming channel where you can watch us.
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2018-10-25, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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No group was ever motivated to hatred merely by a perception that another group threatened their "way of life" on a cultural level. They're moved by material grievances, or the (possibly imagined) threat of such: of stolen lands, people killed in wars, and plundered capital goods. The desctruction of a culture and way of life is a corroloary to the destruction (by conquest, plunder, and/or assimilation) of a country.
We've seen ponies conquer non-ponies' lands, at least twice. Once in the present of the show, in Bridle Gossip. We can infer that the "Griffish Isles" named on the map were actually under griffon sovereignty at one point, and we can likewise infer from the presence of Trottingham (Pipsqueak's home town) that they are no longer. We can likewise infer that it was this war of conquest that led to Griffon Stone's peonage, and that the myth of the kingdom's fall is just that, a myth. Probably started by the conquerors.
It's not just buffalo among the bovines who get the shaft in Equestria. The yaks we're pushed to a marginal territory even when the Crystal Empire was gone. You'd think that would get them expand, but no. And cattle are kept as. . . something. Probably slaves, if Spike's status is anything to go by. Ancient racial hatreds crop up in insults. A pony calling someone cloven-hooved is akin to me calling someone forked-tongued.
Equestria's only notable foreign allies, before The Movie, were the horse-hindquartered hippogriffs. And it seemed that relationship was one-sided, with the Equestrians expecting their aid even having provided none in the hippogriffs' hour of need. True, the hippogriffs didn't ask for any, but that was probably in the expectation that the ponies would not provide. A justified expectation.
It's clear that the animus against Equestria was quite well-deserved.
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2018-10-25, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Explain.
that the myth of the kingdom's fall is just that, a myth. Probably started by the conquerors.
The yaks we're pushed to a marginal territory even when the Crystal Empire was gone.
but that was probably in the expectation that the ponies would not provide. A justified expectation.Last edited by Rater202; 2018-10-25 at 11:28 AM.
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2018-10-25, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ponies moved into an area, appropriated the land for their own use, had a splendid little war with the indegenats when the latter defended their rights, and resolved the war by carving out an easement/reservation while keeping most of the land for themselves. It's straight-out, classic colonial conquest.
Don't we see that the idle exists?
Cite where the Ponies forced the Yaks to live in Yakyakistan.
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2018-10-25, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think you've got your episodes mixed up. Bridle Gossip is the one where they meet Zecora for the first time.
Yes, but when literally every single myth in the show is proven to be true, the assumption would be that this myth would be true as well. Seriously, can you think of a single time when the myth is false?
That doesn't prove anything about forcing the Yaks to stay in Yakyakistan.
Also that's a very practical reason. Seriously, imagine the mess that would happen if someone had built a new city where the Crystal Empire used to be, and then it returned. Plus, it seemed Celestia knew that it would be returned one day.Spoiler: I'm a writer!Spoiler: Check out my fanfiction[URL="https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7493788/Forum-Explorer"here[/URL]
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