OOTS #1153 - The Discussion Thread

[Resileaf]

According to the all-knowing wikipedia English is the offical language of 32 states. I am unsure why some states don't have one though.

Without bothering to check, I'm gonna assume it's due to Natives and their own languages.

[mucat]

However back on oots, how much strong do you think Sigdi is? She must be very high level to say that to a powerfull cleric and mean it....

It's not a matter of levels. It's a matter of meaning it.

Sigdi probably does have a bit of personal power -- though I doubt she's a match for Hilgya in a fair fight -- but in this context she'd be just as intimidating if she were a first-level commoner. Kind of like someone sincerely ready to jump out a window, and figure out on the way down how to survive the fall. You don't want to cross such a person; the results are too unpredictable.

[draigan]

I love how Sidgi sweet-talked Hilgya into giving Kuzdu to her, then when she was in control of the baby she put Hilgya in his place, cold.

Pure unadulterated badass :)

[Fyraltari]

Without bothering to check, I'm gonna assume it's due to Natives and their own languages.

They can have several official languages.

[Snails]

I love how Sidgi sweet-talked Hilgya into giving Kuzdu to her, then when she was in control of the baby she put Hilgya in his place, cold.

Definitely.

"Don't worry, sweet little Kudzu. I can take good care of you if someone needs to end your cra-cra mom."

[GigaGuess]

More like: "Since the problem has been fixed and there is my grandson's interests to look after, I will overlook your insane overreaction to Durkon's understandable error. Once. BTW, I could take you with one hand tied behind my back in my prime. I think I am still good."

I will concede this point, yes.

[Peelee]

*Aside from the fact that the USA doesn't have any official language, just an unofficial default one.

Pickiest of nits: the USA doesn't but various states do have official languages. Even more fun, English is not the only official language in at least one.

Ninjad on the first bit, but not the second. Nice try, Fyraltari!

[Fyraltari]

Its payback for how you made our language go persnickety

French is persnickety (thanks for the new word by the way).

English is absurd:

[Hekko]

This is brilliant.

[zimmerwald1915]

According to the all-knowing wikipedia English is the offical language of 32 states. I am unsure why some states don't have one though.

Lack of sufficiently powerful nativist lobbies.

[hamishspence]

"Don't worry, sweet little Kudzu. I can take good care of you if someone needs to end your cra-cra mom."

Even the "Is he on solids yet" bit may be a little "You will very soon no longer be needed for feeding him" hint.

[Snails]

Even the "Is he on solids yet" bit may be a little "You will very soon no longer be needed for feeding him" hint.

Good catch.

[The Pilgrim]

Definitely.

"Don't worry, sweet little Kudzu. I can take good care of you if someone needs to end your cra-cra mom."

Well, the only way to keep a CE character under ranks is to stablish dominance and make clear who is on top of the Food Chain. Grandma Thurdershield knows the drill.

[TheNecrocomicon]

Well, that went more smoothly than I thought it might. Maybe Hilgya offing Durkon defused more of her ongoing rage than anticipated.

Of course, this could then lead to more issues in the vein of:

I have-a been in the revenge business so long, now that it's over, I don't know what to do with the rest of my life.

Also, trust Sigdi the veteran fighter to be the most disarming* one in this situation, eh?

* Pun not intended, but I'll take it.

[RaveDave92084]

Wow!! Mom of the year.

I loved how Sigdi re-framed so much so easily.

Some paraphrasing below.

----

Sigdi: That's a firm na.

---

Durkon: I got Flamestruck!!!!

Sigdi: You're not still dead, Uncle Hoskin is still missing a tooth.

----

I want Sigdi as my Mom.

[Sindeloke]

French is persnickety (thanks for the new word by the way).

English is absurd:
[Snip]

You know, this is a widespread meme but weren't we just getting educated a couple of comic threads ago about how English is actually a very easy, friendly, flexible language, far more forgiving of spelling and grammar than many common languages (say Latin or Mandarin)?

Or was that Reddit. I've spent way too much time on the internet the last couple weeks, it's all kind of blurring together.

[Anarion]

That was glorious! I love the expressions and the baby is wonderful.

[Osuniev]

Native French speaker here, with a personal interest in linguistics.

Coup de Grâce should be pronounced "coo duh grass"

Grâce here means mercy, (in the etymological sense of mercifully killing someone rather than letting them suffer), although "giving the coup de grâce" DOES have the same meaning in French of finishing someone who is down/weakened, either literally or metaphorically. (Small linguistic disgression : the French "Merci" and the Spanish "Gracias" have mirror histories, of both historically meaning "mercy" and being transformed into "thanks" in one language and not the other.)

"coup de gras" (prononced coo duh graa) would indeed mean hitting someone with fat.

[GreatWyrmGold]

More like: "Since the problem has been fixed and there is my grandson's interests to look after, I will overlook your insane overreaction to Durkon's understandable error. Once."

Can we please stop pretending that we're not projecting our judgements of Hilgya onto Sigdi?

According to the all-knowing wikipedia English is the offical language of 32 states. I am unsure why some states don't have one though.

Probably for the same reason the nation itself doesn't have one (ie, all it would do is officially exclude non-English-speakers).

Pickiest of nits: the USA doesn't but various states do have official languages.

I said "the USA doesn't have an official language," didn't I? Why do you need to invent nits to pick?
If this had been framed as a Fun Fact or something, it would be fine, but you're framing it as a nitpick, so we have problems now.

Well, the only way to keep a CE character under ranks is to stablish dominance and make clear who is on top of the Food Chain.

looks at Durkon and Belkar

[Draconi Redfir]

i get the feeling Hylga and Kudzu might be living with Sigdi from now on. Aside from that one small threat, they seemed to be getting along quite well

plus Hylga might feel confidant leaving Kudzu with grandma for awhile when out doing clerical things, who knows?

[BriarHobbit]

Mother Thundershield is awesome! Just awesome.

[JackRackham]

I LOVE Sigdi.

[Keltest]

Can we please stop pretending that we're not projecting our judgements of Hilgya onto Sigdi?

Is there some reason to believe that she doesnt think Hilgya greatly overreacted? The evidence strongly suggests that she does not appreciate hearing about how Hilgya literally killed Durkon.

[Vendanna]

But she wasn't *just* killing him because of an insensitive marriage proposal.

She was killing him because she was on a quest to "Kill Durkon Thundershield"...and that action satisfied that quest.

She has now balanced her internal books, and can continue with attempting to help OOTS save the world.

Well, wouldn't that be explained as in she casted "Geas" on herself, so the spell forced her to "finish him off"? (if I wanted to look for a neutral explanation of why the dwarf had to die). if I recall well, geas is a way to force a character to do something. (curious that Roy's father never ever tried to cast one on himself, nor roy's mother tried to get geas cast on him). :)

[Rogar Demonblud]

She left Kudzu with one of the highest level clerics in the vicinity, in a town for all they know is overrun by vampires. Probably the safest place he could possibly be.

Vampire Cleric: "Mass Cause Light Wounds"

Kudzu: *<*

Also, Sigdi was already completely awesome, so how did she suddenly gain a thousand points of concentrated Awesome?

[Lord Vukodlak]

Well, the only way to keep a CE character under ranks is to stablish dominance and make clear who is on top of the Food Chain. Grandma Thurdershield knows the drill.

So we know Belkar’s handles then.

[Jasdoif]

According to the all-knowing wikipedia English is the offical language of 32 states. I am unsure why some states don't have one though.

Presumably, declaring official language(s) wasn't a concern when they adopted statehood, and there wasn't enough to be gained by declaring already-in-use language(s) "official" for the state government to bother to do it afterwards.

[hamishspence]

The evidence strongly suggests that she does not appreciate hearing about how Hilgya literally killed Durkon.

Indeed. The "you even scratch Durkon, you die" threat fits with that.

[ManuelSacha]

Right.
I don't see why Hilgya was still in such a vengeful mood.
She named Durkon's son after A PLANT, for Thor's sake.
Isn't that enough of a revenge, already?

[Fyraltari]

You know, this is a widespread meme but weren't we just getting educated a couple of comic threads ago about how English is actually a very easy, friendly, flexible language, far more forgiving of spelling and grammar than many common languages (say Latin or Mandarin)?

Or was that Reddit. I've spent way too much time on the internet the last couple weeks, it's all kind of blurring together.

These are not contradictory. Everything about english is easy (to someone whose native tongue is Indo-European at least) but the pronunciation.

So we know Belkar’s handles then.

We've known for a while. That's Roy's strategy.