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2019-02-25, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-25, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
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2019-02-25, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-25, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
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2019-02-25, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
"I really like the Geek Math'ology we do here"
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2019-02-25, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
As said, there is no debate. Although a statement was put out in December 2014:
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2019-02-25, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-25, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Mentioning boobs in the same sentence as Vaarsuvius does not mean Vaarsuvius has boobs.
Unlike Roy.
(Nor does the reference to milk mean Vaarsuvius is lactating.)
(Though Vaarsuvius is established as a ruminant--well, half-camel--so Elan would see why you're confused.)
Blackwing did suggest female, but he suggested it about a cow, not about Vaarsuvius.Last edited by Kish; 2019-02-25 at 04:05 PM.
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2019-02-25, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Denthor, did you read that line as meaning that sometimes V lactates before trancing?
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2019-02-25, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Also, I'm very much confused about the logic here. Elan required a glass of milk prior to sleeping. V did not. Therefore V is the opposite sex and/or gender from Elan?
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2019-02-25, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
The 2014 quote doesn't necessarily invalidate the FAQ.
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The term has also been applied by those describing what they see as a gender ambiguity.[9] Androgynous (also androgyne) is frequently used as a descriptive term for people in this category. This is because the term androgyny is closely associated with a blend of socially defined masculine and feminine traits.[10] However, not all genderqueer persons identify as androgynous. Some genderqueer people identify as a masculine woman or a feminine man or combine genderqueer with another gender option.[11]Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2019-02-25, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2019-02-25, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Eh, I was just making a lame joke. Honestly, there's a certain point where I just don't understand things, and I try to default to "whatever lets people live their lives in peace and happiness." That way everyone is happy. At least, everyone who just gets along without having to worry about what's going on with other people.
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2019-02-25, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Generally speaking, if the question is "does [insert strip] answer the question of V's sex/gender?", then the answer is "no".
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2019-02-25, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
If anything, mentioning warm milk in the same sentence as V does LESS to go one of the two binary ways than characters in one comic calling V "he" or "she" with some corroboration.
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2019-02-25, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
V probably told Elan:
Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything
V doubtless left the feeding(via bottle or cup of warm milk) and tucking-in to Haley.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2019-02-25 at 08:52 PM.
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2019-02-26, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
It seems obvious Denthor interpreted blackwings statement to be that V's boobs were not dripping (with the possible inference that they sometimes do before V trances), whereas others have interpreted boob drippings to be a reference to milk. While I'm sure the later interpretation is probably correct (in part because of what Hayley had just said about Elan), I don't think the language itself precludes the earlier interpretation.
It may be that the Giant wrote that line in anticipation of the discussion that might follow (much like the line about Belkar being Durkon's fourth preferred marriage partner) because ruminant can refer to a goat or cow (animals commonly used for milk) or to a person who trances or meditates (which V is), leaving the interpretation open - so perhaps a deliberately chosen word.Last edited by Liquor Box; 2019-02-26 at 01:23 AM.
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2019-02-26, 02:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
I am pretty sure the Giant was thinking only of a verbose way of saying that V did not need a glass of warm milk to trance.
However this post then made me think: Ooh camels are actually ruminants, so this is a throw back to the "half-camel" joke.
What an excellent find! Except I'd thought I better check and apparently camels are not ruminants, in either the descriptive or the cladistic sense.Ever wondered how many games are mentioned in the comic? I have listed them all in a geeklist: https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/2...es-order-stick
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2019-02-26, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1154 - The Discussion Thread
Even if V is female, there is no reason to believe that her boobs would be dripping milk right now.
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2019-02-26, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1154 - The Discussion Thread
Or indeed, that a male cannot produce milk. Since it is not unheard of for that to happen with advanced cirrhosis of the liver, I'd guess a non-insignificant portion of dwarves, male and female alike, might spontaneously lactate when one of their livers is giving up the ghost.
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2019-02-26, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1154 - The Discussion Thread
While I tend to agree (let down seems to be associated with ladies who are already lactating/breast feeding) there is the very small point of "how different are elven and human physiologies" to which the answer is "we are not sure." But that point is, as I see it, far too small to try and hang the idea of V spontaneously lactating onto.
When I first read that strip, it was obvious (in terms of context and V's habit of verbosity) that Blackwing was referring to someone else drinking milk.
But if Giant was slipping a secondary definition of ruminant to us, then well played / clever word play on his part.
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... I'd guess a non-insignificant portion of dwarves, male and female alike, might spontaneously lactate when one of their livers is giving up the ghost.
(Elves, maybe not so much?)Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2019-02-26 at 10:17 AM.
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2019-02-26, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-26, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1154 - The Discussion Thread
Yep. It was observed in modern times in starved survivors of WWII concentration camps, once their diets were restored to normal: they started producing the lactation hormone (helpfully called prolactin) faster than their recovering liver could metabolize it, so they started lactating.
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2019-02-26, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.
Just so you don't feel too alone here, I had to read that panel a couple of times to figure out what Blackwing was trying to say. The mix of verbose and slang in "ruminant boob drippings" threw me for a bit, I thought at first that somehow and for some reason V was trying to breastfeed Kudzu and managed not to get any milk on themself, which was pretty confusing.