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2012-05-23, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
uryu has flat out stated he's more powerful in HM and SS, so it's certainly a factor.
but i think the real issues are more mundane. SS has 13 insanely powerful troops it can put anywhere on the planet almost instantly, and they operate out of a virtually unassailable fortress/dimension.
SS probably could have won on logistics alone by burning quincy food supplies.
on top of that, quincy are still fundamentally human. a hit is a hit and it will hurt them, where shinigami HP and power are linked, apparently.a tiny space dedicated to a beloved grandpa now passed. may every lunch be peanut butter-banana sandwiches.
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2012-05-23, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-23, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI don't think that's the case actually. It seems to work regardless of how powerful the person in question is or how strong their willpower is (Ayon had incredible willpower, partially because it had no intelligence). Ichigo's bankai may well help him to resist the ability for longer, but I'm pretty sure he's spot on about having to break the halo to stop the effect which is what he's currently doing.
So I think it's less a case of the power being useless on the captains and more they won't have too much trouble breaking the halos. More importantly, it doesn't seem to be a passive thing, Opie seems to be directing it so sufficiently stealthy/fast characters can likely get around it.
As for Mayuri...well he probably figured out a defense when he fought Uryuu or breaking down his poisons/diseases won't affect their lethality. One of those two. Either way, the captains will be resistant to this ability, but I doubt it'll be because of their power. Also, how DID that king guy get through the membrane? Internal sympathizers?Warriors & Wuxia: A community world-building project focused on low-magic wuxia/kung-fu action using ToB.
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2012-05-23, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Just punched on through, probably. We've yet to see a barrier that can't be destroyed by the simple application of overwhelming force, and of course we've seen that a powerful Quincy can probably destroy or nullify any spirit-particle construct that they put their minds to.
(Heck, for maximum evil style/irony points, the blasts he just leveled them with might have been formed from the energy of the barrier that was supposed to keep him out.)
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2012-05-23, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Honestly after thinking about the last few chapters (and seeing how this arc is building) I have to ask: Is it just me or has Kubo's writing skills started to improve?
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2012-05-23, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
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2012-05-23, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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A while back everyone mentioned who they thought the 5 weapons the quincy king was talking about earlier, and everyone mentioned Ichigo, Urahara, Yoruichi, Isshin as 4 of the 5, but the 5th was up in the air, but I have a feeling the 5th may be Tessai. We may not have seen much from him, but the dude was the head of the Kido Corp for a reason, which I'm sure isn't far off from a captain in strength.
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2012-05-24, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-29, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-29, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
kubo, stop naming people then murdering them. it doesn't DO anything.
also, disappointed to see kira down. his fights were always interesting. he was always the one winning with clever tactics.Last edited by thubby; 2012-05-30 at 08:46 AM.
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2012-05-30, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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To be fair, one of those guys looked so much like Byakuya that I would have been hellishly confused if he hadn't been given a separate name.
also, disappointed to see kira down. his fights were always interesting. he was always the one winning with clever tactics.If you like my thoughts, you'll love my writing. Visit me at www.mishahandman.com.
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2012-05-30, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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About the only thing this does is show why the captains are considered the military force of the Soul Society.
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2012-05-30, 01:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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How many people know Shikai now?(Before the random people died)
Why does the Soul Society even bother having the lower rank soldiers fight? They can't even be good meatshields
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2012-05-30, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Ignoring Hinamori getting stabbed thorugh the chest, the vizard girl whose name I can't remember getting cut in half, Captain Tuberculosis having a third hand where he had ribs before (Wonderweiss's hand, to be precise) and SuperCaptain Fiery Genocide Granpa doing a sacrificial kido...
Rangiku looked pretty much the same after her fight with whatshisname beast thing made of Harribel's Fraccion. She was fine enough to be innefective againt Gin in the same arc. Mayuri looked far worse when he fought Ishida.
All of them are shiny now (Old Man Burninating Death has just one hand, but I don't think that's a problem for burning things).
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2012-05-30, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-30, 04:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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because they are effective and watch over the entire world. lets not forget at least 1 espada and almost all the fraccion were killed by lieutenants.
as dead as they all got, this was the right move for SS. not only were previous quincy not this powerful, there are more of them than SS has captains. they need to know where the major threats are before deploying.a tiny space dedicated to a beloved grandpa now passed. may every lunch be peanut butter-banana sandwiches.
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2012-05-30, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
The average Soul Reaper has enough ability to do one of three tasks: patrol the roukon district, exterminate hollows in the mortal world, or provide support / healing to those that do. It seems like there is very little overlap when it comes to roles in SS.
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2012-05-31, 02:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 07:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Nah, her purpose is obvious. If Rukia goes headfirst for one of the Stern Ritter, it's the perfect excuse for Kyoraku and Ukitake to show up and save her. Ukitake will die and Kyoraku will kill the Stern Ritter that took out Ukitake, both hyping the Stern Ritter further (they can kill even senior Captains) while giving hope to the rest of the Shinigami (they can be killed). I think at least one Stern Ritter will die before the surviving Shinigami flee to the Human World, where the Vandenreich is ironically weakest, and that Kyoraku, Unohana and Yamamoto will stay behind to hold the Quincy off long enough for them all to get away.
Which fits the chapter title, since this invasion will signify the end of the Gotei 13."Don't think of it as dying," said Death,
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush."
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2012-05-31, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-05-31, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Don't think of it as dying," said Death,
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush."