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2012-06-15, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
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2012-06-15, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-15, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
I already feel sorry for whoever tries to steal Mayuri's bankai.
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2012-06-15, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
So, once again, if SoiFong hates her bankai as much as she told Barragan, and SS knows that these quincy can steal bankais, and her bankai probably does a LOT of collateral damage, is there a reason not to use her shikai instead?
Maybe her flash-step advanced technique if you want... I can understand Hitsugaya and Komamura going bankai from the begining, because it's THEIR style, and it has been since their first fights. Byakuya is resorceful enough to crush his opponent without bankai, and proud enough to allow Masked Quincy to seal it just to see how they do that, and give him his little lecture about how Byakuya is better and cooler than everyone not Byakuya.
But SoiFong going bankai immediately? Really?Last edited by Elhann; 2012-06-15 at 04:36 PM.
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2012-06-15, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Apparently those cloaks the wear make them near impervious to shikai and lower techs. And Soi can still use shunko, so shes not at the much of a disadvantage (unlike the other 3). At least till they reveal a counter to it. It also seems (given the whole expository plan deal) that these 4 captains were given orders to go out there and use their Bankai.
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2012-06-15, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
I'm not certain that Byakuya's at that much of a disadvantage, considering he's got a level of mobility almost up there with Yoruichi and SoiFong, and has been known to use Kido onslaughts on occasion- so even if his only contribution was to keep the quincy from being able to somehow steal Renji's bankai, that could be decisive...
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2012-06-15, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
This is assuming they didn't lose their reiatsu along with their bankai.
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2012-06-18, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-18, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-20, 05:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
So... New Chapter...
SpoilerI liked it. A bit. I mean, sure they play the Ichigo card (and we know his bankai can't be stolen), but the faces of those captains... Priceless
Then again, I expect an asspull from Kubo because he's nothing left to do...Warlock Poetry?
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Better grab a drink...
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2012-06-20, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerMayuri has a point; even if you're going to test your opponent's counter-bankai technique, you don't have to use four bankais at once.
Hitsugaya's reaction seems to suggest that the technique "silences" the zanpakuto. Surely it doesn't take the entire sword spirit out?Awesome OOTS-style Fallout New Vegas avatar by Ceika. Or it was, before Photobucket started charging money.
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2012-06-20, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerCounterpoint: The Captains already knew someone was going to have to sacrifice their bankai as soon as possible to try and figure out what exactly the Uberquincy were doing, and since they were surprise attacked on multiple fronts they weren't really in synch. It could just be that four captains managed to get their bankais stolen before the report came in that said "Hey, no really, don't do that."
Still not the best tactics, basically four people running suicide missions when all you needed was one, but oh well.
Personally I think the greatest loss here is Soi Fong's shikai.
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2012-06-20, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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A Quincy already did something that Coyote Starrk wasn't able to do. He actually hit Shunsui Kyōraku, the captain of the 8th division, without Kyoraku being distracted by his best friend getting fisted in the chest.
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2012-06-20, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-20, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-21, 01:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerI generally agree with this one. It's all worth considering which four captains it was who wound up making the attempt.
* Soi Fon, given her speed and the overwhelming nature of her bankai, may well have hoped to successfully land a blow before she could be sealed.
* Hitsugaya is young, extremely rash, and prone to grandiose acts of self-sacrifice. Deciding himself as the sacrifice for figuring out just how things work makes a lot of sense.
* Byakuya had a second guy with bankai with him, and reasonably believed that if his was sealed, Renji would be able to step up and take the enemy out, unsealing himself. He made what he believed was a tactical sacrifice, only to discover it was much more serious.
* Komamaru is kind of an idiot.Last edited by Friv; 2012-06-21 at 10:20 AM.
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2012-06-21, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
I wonder, since Ichigo is out of touch at the moment, I wonder who will answer the call for help?
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2012-06-21, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-21, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-21, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-27, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerAh... Urahara. So enjoyable. And yet again the SS needs Ichigo to bail them out. Though at least someone there apparently can use logic.
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2012-06-27, 08:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerTo be fair, Ichigo won the lottery with his unique steal-proof bankai. Otherwise he'd be as useless as the four captains (and one dead lieutenant) who got robbed.Awesome OOTS-style Fallout New Vegas avatar by Ceika. Or it was, before Photobucket started charging money.
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2012-06-27, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerUrahara usually is not quite so direct and ruthless. He must be highly concerned. Also Ichigo seems to be figuring some things out. I get the impression he was trying to pump that Quincy for info rather than kill him outright. Nice transition between the two locations IMO.
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2012-06-27, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerThat was pretty good, and it seems that we got some info. Ichigo's opponent named some parts of his ability. So apparently they have to dictate how much energy goes to which part.
Silly Captains had to go and lose their Bankai.
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2012-06-27, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerIf Ichigo was winning his fight, why did he just up and leave right as they asked for him instead of like finishing off the Quincy? I have no doubts that Urahara could have, but it would have been simpler for Ichigo to do it.
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2012-06-27, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-27, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerI doubt it's just Zangetsu that makes Ichigo's bankai un-steal-able. Could it be Fullbring? Or perhaps the Hollow power (which after a fashion united Ichigo with Zangetsu more fully)? Final Getsuga (meaning that he still "is" Zangetsu)?
If it's the Hollow power, then the Vandenreich could be stopped by the Visored captains. I think it's a combination of those, though, and possibly partly due to Ichigo being also human.
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2012-06-27, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
SpoilerI would go with that it is a number of factors. First is the "closed" nature of Ichigo's Bankai. It concentrates around him instead of expands outward. (The bad guys seem to be working on a counter for that though. If they do steal it they might just unleash something much worse). Also being a Visored probably helps as well. The other Visored should be much more effective against the Quicey because they are able to power up, but without the use of a Bankai. Enough to win I don't know. But the battles will be much more even. Of course there is one Captain who does not have a Bankai. I wonder how the Quincy where going to deal with him? Or maybe they never got solid intel on him and don't know what he can do. Which means they are dead meat. I don't think the Fullbring has much to do with it.
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2012-06-27, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-27, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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