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Thread: Personal Woes and Advice 5
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2017-08-16, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good luck, Jormengand.
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2017-08-17, 01:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI realised that I've been slightly suicidal all summer, and that it has just been escalating this whole time. Why do I always burn out one way or another when it's summer time?Originally Posted by LaZodiac
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2017-08-17, 01:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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A wild guess would be that in summertime people are out and about more, and generally more expansive/enthusiastic about things... so people who we feel have it together more than we do are all up in our faces and the comparison stings just a little more than usual.
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2017-08-17, 02:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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You've heard of SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder)? Usually this causes people to get depressed in winter and happier in summer, but it can work the other way round--might be worth checking with your accredited medical professional of choice to see if you've got that.
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2017-08-17, 06:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Also: from May up, all the couples start hitting the streets and enjoying themselves visibly, as opposed to staying nicely hidden somewhere warm. Combine that with usual summer fashion trends.
Drove me nuts for long time, each summer.Call me Laco or Ladislav (if you need to be formal). Avatar comes from the talented linklele.
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2017-08-17, 07:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-17, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Call me Laco or Ladislav (if you need to be formal). Avatar comes from the talented linklele.
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2017-08-17, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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This signature is no longer incredibly out of date, but it is still irrelevant.
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2017-08-17, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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I second the call to have your doc check for seasonal affective disorder. it's not that uncommon, and well worth checking for as there are some decent treatments if that is the problem.
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2017-08-17, 06:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-18, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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I hate the whole mentality people get of just "be more understanding, can't you see <<other person>> is having a hard time?"
I mean, I get it. But it often seems like it never ends. You can give and be kind and understanding until you have nothing left emotionally for yourself. And still when you reach out to someone else for help, you are chastised for not being understanding enough.
I also hate how the provision of physical or financial assistance, or on the flip side one finding one's self in need of it, is seen to justify inappropriate emotional demands. There's often a mentality that if it was really that bad, you'd obviously find some way out. If you've looked and aren't finding a way out that's better, obviously you're just making excuses or whining. You ought to be grateful for the assistance, and being grateful precludes offering any criticism of the person providing it.Hail to the Lord of Death and Destruction!
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2017-08-18, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: suicidalHad therapy today. Let it all out. I haven't actively started to plan The Great Jump so I felt like I'm not in need of hospital treatment.
Hating oneself is craptastic.Originally Posted by LaZodiac
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2017-08-18, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have a LOT of Homebrew!
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2017-08-18, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Stuff like this is usually reallly context dependent.
For instance, you find one person having a breakdown and another person telling them they're being unreasonable, toughen up, get over it, etc.
If person 1 is a normally competent individual and just happens to be under a lot of stress/personal tragedy, then "be more understanding..." is probably a valid response.
If person 1 has been a wreck for months, person 2's take suddenly seems a lot more reasonable.
I think that when providing assistance, people don't want to feel like their charity is going to waste. Obviously you can't expect someone to just snap out of whatever their situation is and continue with a normal life- if that was possible, they wouldn't need the help in the first place. But it seems like in most cases there should be some kind of practical long term plan to get out of the situation, even if it's not immediately acheivable.
Now the real question- are all three sections of your post regarding the same chain of events, and if so is the order 3-2-1?This signature is no longer incredibly out of date, but it is still irrelevant.
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2017-08-18, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's a general frustration with people's reactions to my issues with my mother.
So the "be more understanding" is frustrating me in the sense that I feel like I'm clearly expressing that I'm overloaded, I can't keep taking the situation I'm in, I'm angry and I feel like I'm trying to work things out and she isn't receptive to anything that has any hint of boundaries on my part. And I'm having people turn around and tell me that I should be more understanding, that she's going through a hard time and she needs me to be there for her, that I need to be more patient and kind and loving. When I'm coming in saying I'm burning out trying to help her and people are turning around and lecturing me for not being understanding enough and not loving her or caring about her and all that because I'm trying to figure out how to take care of myself.Hail to the Lord of Death and Destruction!
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2017-08-20, 04:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I'm trying to focus on things I like right now, so I've been binging on playing The Sims. Had some anxiety last night despite my meds, but I suppose that's understandable in my situation...
Originally Posted by LaZodiac
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2017-08-21, 06:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-21, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Can I be direct WarKitty? What do you expect people to say? F*** your mom she is a huge B***?
Because that's kind of what it looks like, and let me tell you that's not really helpful at all.
You are angry, anger is a bad emotion, people try to make you less angry so you will feel better and see things with more clarity.
She is your mom and she will always be, even if you run away and live a different life in the other side of the world she will still be your mom. You can either grow up and accept the fact she is not perfect and actually quite flawed and try to find a way to deal with it or keep crying about and hoping for your fairy godmother to show up and magically solve it for you.
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2017-08-21, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's always easy to advise when you're not at the spot.
It's always easy to say "be better", "be more understanding", when you're not the person that needs to be better/more understanding.
If you burn out, she won't get more help from you.
Take a step back. Breathe a little. You have right for some happiness in your life. And when you feel like it, help. But if you are in need of help...
Also: I am considered to be insensitive and unfeeling by some. I am considered to be horrible person by some. But the people that consider me these usually are not my friends or family - hell, I'm the guy who told my grandfather to put a handful of dirt on his chest every morning when he was bombarding my mother with "I will soon die" statements. So consider my advice only if you are willing to be the "horrible person".Call me Laco or Ladislav (if you need to be formal). Avatar comes from the talented linklele.
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2017-08-21, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-21, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-21, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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With my medical history, no organization like that would want me, and it would be a terrible idea for me to be anywhere outside of the first world.
"It sucks and here's how to help manage" would be a start. In the original case I was thinking of, what I was asking for was exactly that - I know the situation sucks, I'm having a hard time when I'm in the situation where I end up feeling like I don't know up from down, how do I keep my own bearings? Because that's often what being with her is like. What seems clear when I'm by myself or talking to others, is suddenly not clear when I'm dealing with her, and I end up in a position where I don't know how to cope because it feels like I've stepped into a completely different world when talking to her than when interacting with the rest of the world.
You say running away won't solve the problems. What will? Because clearly trying the "be more patient and understanding" route certainly isn't. What it's resulting in is me becoming more frustrated because it seems the more understanding I am, the more is expected of me, and it will eventually hit the point where I can't handle it. We're talking about a situation where I'm being patient and understanding up until the point where I'm literally shaking from the stress, and I'm still being told I'm rude and ungrateful for not continuing to be available after that point because she's having a hard time. (And it was very clear in context that it was "you need to be more understanding because you're just a spoiled brat who doesn't care about her mother", not "you should try and be more understanding because it might help you handle the situation.")
Perhaps not "facing it" is because I see no productive way to face it. I see my options are to bear it as best I can and to work to get out. The question sometimes becomes how to bear it.
I have yet to see a person who was actually capable of true stoicism. Many people hold it up as an ideal, but it's not something that's in our nature.Last edited by WarKitty; 2017-08-21 at 10:10 AM.
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2017-08-21, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm hesitant to post anything since I feel like my situation isn't really bad enough to warrant anyone's concern or attention, but I think I need to just let this out. Feel free to skip over if you want.
By all rights I should be happy right now. I started my first full-time job in my profession about two months ago, after a five-year journey that included a year and a half of volunteering, two years of grad school, a couple years of part-time work, and dozens if not hundreds of applications and interviews that went nowhere before I finally, finally landed this job.
Finally I was able to stop living with my parents and move out on my own. Sure, I had to take a job nearly 200 miles away from everyone I know, but I can still visit on weekends once a month or so. I feel isolated and lonely, though. I haven't made any friends since moving out here. My coworkers are all polite, but I don't feel like I've connected with any of them on a deeper level where any of them would want to hang out with me outside of work. I have hardly met anyone else at all, outside of work and a few local stores and restaurants that I have been to. I'd also like to find a new relationship (it's been about 4 years since my last one ended, and about 2 1/2 since the last time I even went on a date), but I've not had any luck there so far either. There's one woman at my job who's exactly the type of person I'd like to go out with, but I worked so hard to get this job that I don't want to endanger anything here by pursuing her, especially since she's shown zero signs of being interested in me that way. I've dug up my old OKCupid account and updated my info, but haven't found really any potential matches around here to get excited about.
All I've really got in terms of social interaction is gaming on my PS4 with friends a couple times a week, and going back home every 3 weeks or so to see people for a little while. It could certainly be worse, but I'm feeling isolated and lonely and it seems to be geting worse rather than better.
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2017-08-21, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ideally, the situation is that each side is understanding of the other. If not, it's abusive.
I was in an abusive relationship for close to 7 years. Like, diagnosed with BPD, APD, and I think a few other things by a professional - and not moderate or mild versions, either. My mother is also married to someone that is very similar, and has been for thirty years.
I can't tell you the amount of bad advice that I've gotten. "Oh, just come to an agreement, or set boundaries, or set a budget." But it's not really the fault of the people giving that advice, as it's sound in 99% of the circumstances. But when dealing with someone as troubled as the kind of person I had to deal with, the normal advice doesn't work. Agreements don't matter, any discussion is ignored.
And people that haven't had that experience can't understand that. Like, literally, cannot. Don't take it personally. Envy them, and just smile and nod.
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2017-08-21, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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*Offers hugs*
Your issues might not be huge or life-threatening or anything, but they still matter. Is there anything we can do to help?
@Warkitty-I have no idea what to say. I'm very sorry for your situation, and I wish I could help. *Offers hugs* But I don't know how.I have a LOT of Homebrew!
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2017-08-21, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-21, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Now, will your parents kick you out of the house? Like if you just start ignoring her will she call the cops on you and force you out? If so, well then you just need to determine how fine the line is between acting out and them kicking you out is. When you're overwhelmed use that as an excuse to be rude or whatnot and walk away. Clearly if they're not actually willing to kick you out you can do the same but need to be less careful about it. Also consider other part time jobs. Retail, fast food whatever, something else that will provide more money AND let you out of the house.
You need to get out on your own as quickly as possible. I presume money is somehow the problem there, presumably some sort of lump sum needed for something and after that you'd be able to maintain a living space with what income you have. Look into what kind of financing options are available. Some sort of line of credit at a bank would be ideal, though even the absurd rates that come with credit cards might be worth it, if it lets you get out and stay out sooner. You can then work on paying down debt.
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2017-08-21, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fault implies voluntary actions, does it not? So not really your fault.
I am in a similar situation, and it can be very hard at times. I uses to live near friends and family, and now I struggle to connect to my new colleagues and accquaintances. Nice people and all, but yeah, not the same thing.
Regarding the female colleague... I hear you. The Platinum Rule is useful, although I start to think "That's planning failure - even dumber than regular planning."What can change the nature of a man?
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2017-08-21, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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What can change the nature of a man?
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2017-08-21, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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