Extremly dissapointed in Google, need contact information for them

[sikyon]

I am extremely disappointed with Google that they chose not to honour the brave soilders who fought and died in D-Day for the freedom we enjoy today. Does anyone know where I might be able to send this complaint to google? I tried looking for an email address but I couldn't find one. If I still can't later today then I'll send them a letter.

What are your opinions on this?

[Gygaxphobia]

Totally agree.
I hope they at least considered it and discarded the idea for some reason.

It's also unfortunate that many people's opinion of what is important is formed by Google's front page.

[The Rose Dragon]

Wait, what is D-Day?

Also, you spelled "disappointed" wrong.

[RTGoodman]

I was a little disappointed, but I think in the past they've done stuff for D-Day. Just remember - it's not the only thing that happened on June 6th. I'm pretty sure they've also honored our troops on other days, too.

If you want to contact them, you might want to click the "About Google" link, and then look at the "Contact Us" area. That seems to be what you're looking for.

EDIT: Rose, not sure if you're joking or not, but information on the term D-Day is here; now, though, it mostly refers to a specific D-Day - June 6, 1944, when the Allies in WWII began Operation Overlord and landed at Normandy.

[rubakhin]

The less honor they give to holidays of a military nature, the better. I never understood all the fanfare and parades, the smiling faces.

[sikyon]

The less honor they give to holidays of a military nature, the better. I never understood all the fanfare and parades, the smiling faces.

It's about honouring the troops. The fact is, the world is dark and gritty and for us to have our sunny, happy lives there have to be people who will sacrifice their own sunny, happy lives to let us enjoy our own. I think we should honour their sacrifices and celebrate their efforts. Sometimes people forget all the benefits we reap from the sacrifices of our soilders.

I was a little disappointed, but I think in the past they've done stuff for D-Day. Just remember - it's not the only thing that happened on June 6th. I'm pretty sure they've also honored our troops on other days, too.

If you want to contact them, you might want to click the "About Google" link, and then look at the "Contact Us" area. That seems to be what you're looking for.

If they've done it before, then I'm OK with it. Have they? Contact Us doesn't lead to anything relevant for this. It's all buisness contacts.

[Griever]

Well, sikyon basically posted what I was about to, so read above for my thoughts on why we should honor military holidays.


As to contacting google, the best I can find is here. Might not get too far, but it is something.

[RTGoodman]

If they've done it before, then I'm OK with it. Have they? Contact Us doesn't lead to anything relevant for this. It's all buisness contacts.

Well, I know they do stuff for every Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, and stuff like that, and I'm pretty sure I remember the graphic from last June 6th being about the Normandy invasion. Or, at least, I remember them having some sort of graphic that related to WWII - it might have been on some other day, though.

Also, I looked around - there doesn't seem to be a non-business related e-mail, but their address is at the bottom of the page here.

[Om]

Forgive me sikyon but I can't find your posts complaining that Google had failed to celebrate the anniversaries of the Battle of Kursk or Stalingrad. Could you please direct me to them?

[sikyon]

Well, sikyon basically posted what I was about to, so read above for my thoughts on why we should honor military holidays.


As to contacting google, the best I can find is here. Might not get too far, but it is something.

Thanks Greiver, how did you find that? I've spent 40 minutes looking for something like that!

[Skippy]

The problem here is, this discussion can be easily turned into a politics matter. I understand Rubakhin's point of view, sharing it myself. Maybe it's because D-Day is mostly an American commemoration. I know what happened then, and I am aware that perhaps the world as we know it today wouldn't be the same if those men hadn't given their lives to protect some ideals. However, in most of the countries (or so I'd like to think) we don't commemorate those who lost their life, in that way.

Diego Velazquez, a great painter, was born on a June 6th, too. The way I see it, in Google they preferred to commemorate something more... universal, and valuable in a way, than remember the people who died in a conflict that is a dark page in history of Mankind.

Said this, I just want to apologize if in any way this post offends someone. It's not my intention. I suppose this day must be really important to some, I respect and understand it.

[sikyon]

The problem here is, this discussion can be easily turned into a politics matter. I understand Rubakhin's point of view, sharing it myself. Maybe it's because D-Day is mostly an American commemoration. I know what happened then, and I am aware that perhaps the world as we know it today wouldn't be the same if those men hadn't given their lives to protect some ideals. However, in most of the countries (or so I'd like to think) we don't commemorate those who lost their life, in that way.

Diego Velazquez, a great painter, was born on a June 6th, too. The way I see it, in Google they preferred to commemorate something more... universal, and valuable in a way, than remember the people who died in a conflict that is a dark page in history of Mankind.

Said this, I just want to apologize if in any way this post offends someone. It's not my intention. I suppose this day must be really important to some, I respect and understand it.

I don't think it's mostly american, I'm fairly sure it's celebrated in britain and france and Canada (I live in cananda). Yes, I agree art might be more universal but really can anyone say that they wanted the axis powers to win? I can't think of a single country today that would have the opinion that they wanted the Nazi's to rule the world.

[Griever]

Thanks Greiver, how did you find that? I've spent 40 minutes looking for something like that!

Gr -ie- ver, first off

And the link was on the right side of this page.

And it all depends on your point of view, radikal, I come from a family that had 4 men fighting all in D-Day, so I was raised celebrating it.

[SurlySeraph]

D-Day is not an official government holiday. It would be no less reasonable to demand that Google commemorate Sneak Some Zucchini onto Your Neighbors' Porch Day.

[sikyon]

D-Day is not an official government holiday. It would be no less reasonable to demand that Google commemorate Sneak Some Zucchini onto Your Neighbors' Porch Day.

Really, it would be no less reasonable?

[Skippy]

I don't think it's mostly american, I'm fairly sure it's celebrated in britain and france and Canada (I live in cananda). Yes, I agree art might be more universal but really can anyone say that they wanted the axis powers to win? I can't think of a single country today that would have the opinion that they wanted the Nazi's to rule the world.

No, I didn't say that. As I said, I am completely aware of the historic importance of D-Day. I respect that. However, the whole WWII is something I am ashamed of, as a member of the human race. I agree that the Nazi regime was a mistake, and I am glad the Axis lost the war. I wish, however, that none of that would have happened. That so many lives were lost. That the Atomic Bomb had to be used. That the world had to be torn apart the way it was torn.

The way I see it, I prefer to embrace all the goodness Mankind has created. All forms of art, anything that gives us hope in ourselves, rather than anything that reminds us of a day when men had to rise and kill each other because of a megalomaniac's crazy ideas.

Edit: Griever, I am sorry to hear about that. Luckily, I don't think I had any family member fight in WWII, and I can't understand what's it like, to have someone in a situation like that.

But wouldn't you agree, it would have been better if none of that had happened?

[WalkingTarget]

I don't know if the lists they provide are complete, but I didn't see any other June 6 banners here.

I think the general idea is that they don't seem to bring up much military stuff at all besides Veteran's/Armistice day, and that wasn't until last year.

[sikyon]

No, I didn't say that. As I said, I am completely aware of the historic importance of D-Day. I respect that. However, the whole WWII is something I am ashamed of, as a member of the human race. I agree that the Nazi regime was a mistake, and I am glad the Axis lost the war. I wish, however, that none of that would have happened. That so many lives were lost. That the Atomic Bomb had to be used. That the world had to be torn apart the way it was torn.

The way I see it, I prefer to embrace all the goodness Mankind has created. All forms of art, anything that gives us hope in ourselves, rather than anything that reminds us of a day when men had to rise and kill each other because of a megalomaniac's crazy ideas.

Edit: Griever, I am sorry to hear about that. Luckily, I don't think I had any family member fight in WWII, and I can't understand what's it like, to have someone in a situation like that.

But wouldn't you agree, it would have been better if none of that had happened?

Yes, but that's unrealistic, and trying to handwave it away is just lying, right? I mean look at Japenese textbook revisionism. The world is wrong, but shouldn't we remember the people who made it right? We're celebrating the victory of freedom over oppression here, not the fight itself.

[rubakhin]

It's about honouring the troops. The fact is, the world is dark and gritty and for us to have our sunny, happy lives there have to be people who will sacrifice their own sunny, happy lives to let us enjoy our own. I think we should honour their sacrifices and celebrate their efforts. Sometimes people forget all the benefits we reap from the sacrifices of our soilders.

Look at the Chechen flag in my sig and tell me what a sunny, happy life war won for me, my brother. Tell me how I've forgotten about sacrifice.

I don't know. I don't like it, I don't like the happiness and mirth of these celebrations. But I myself don't have any better solution to suggest. I grieve for everyone's sacrifices, but that's what I do, I grieve. I don't feel right celebrating it. At the same time, there's a pain in my heart for the soldiers ... I don't know what to do for them. I just don't know. But somehow, I find the glorification and romanticism of these holidays to be in poor taste, to be a mockery, almost. Maybe it's a more correct and healthy attitude. I don't know.

[Skippy]

Yes, but that's unrealistic, and trying to handwave it away is just lying, right? I mean look at Japenese textbook revisionism. The world is wrong, but shouldn't we remember the people who made it right? We're celebrating the victory of freedom over oppression here, not the fight itself.

I kinda disagree with that. If that was the celebration, then it would be commemorated on the day the fight ended, and not the day the fight started.

And yes, I am aware the end of the war is celebrated, too. And yes, too, I know the war didn't start on D-Day. However, I don't like the idea of celebrating this kind of events. I agree with Google mentioning other important events, that talk about the hope in Mankind, rather than bloody pages of our history.

[sikyon]

I kinda disagree with that. If that was the celebration, then it would be commemorated on the day the fight ended, and not the day the fight started.

And yes, I am aware the end of the war is celebrated, too. And yes, too, I know the war didn't start on D-Day. However, I don't like the idea of celebrating this kind of events. I agree with Google mentioning other important events, that talk about the hope in Mankind, rather than bloody pages of our history.

But isn't this hope in it's purest form? How can you have hope without oppression? How you know love without hate, courage without fear?

Look at the Chechen flag in my sig and tell me what a sunny, happy life war won for me, my brother. Tell me how I've forgotten about sacrifice.

I don't know. I don't like it, I don't like the happiness and mirth of these celebrations. But I myself don't have any better solution to suggest. I grieve for everyone's sacrifices, but that's what I do, I grieve. I don't feel right celebrating it. At the same time, there's a pain in my heart for the soldiers ... I don't know what to do for them. I just don't know. But somehow, I find the glorification and romanticism of these holidays to be in poor taste, to be a mockery, almost. Maybe it's a more correct and healthy attitude. I don't know.

I don't think that it's really a celebration, I think it's moe of a rememberance. The end of the war should probably be a celebration though, as the fighting has ended.

[Skippy]

But isn't this hope in it's purest form? How can you have hope without oppression? How you know love without hate, courage without fear?

I can have hope when I know that Mankind can be better. When I know that everything we can do today, we can do it better tomorrow. When I know that people care about each other and know that people works together to accomplish goals that will make next generations live better. When I listen to Beethoven's Ninth or see the Mona Lisa, when I see that people care about science and understanding why are we here, instead of slaughtering each other. I agree that you can't have courage without fear, I just don't understand why we must have fear of each other.

Edit: I think I missed my point. The Universe is too big, we are too small. We have opression. We have limitations. Humans are fragile. Life is beautiful and we've spent thousands of years trying to understand why are we here and what's our purpose. We've learned that we are a privileged species, and that the chances of us being here at all was so minimal that it's ridiculous. If we are so weak, so unprotected against this huge universe, what's the point in celebrating the times when we had to fight each other, instead of celebrating the times when we showed ourselves our aptitudes and will to make ourselves a better species?

[Raiser Blade]

Look at the Chechen flag in my sig and tell me what a sunny, happy life war won for me, my brother. Tell me how I've forgotten about sacrifice.

I don't know. I don't like it, I don't like the happiness and mirth of these celebrations. But I myself don't have any better solution to suggest. I grieve for everyone's sacrifices, but that's what I do, I grieve. I don't feel right celebrating it. At the same time, there's a pain in my heart for the soldiers ... I don't know what to do for them. I just don't know. But somehow, I find the glorification and romanticism of these holidays to be in poor taste, to be a mockery, almost. Maybe it's a more correct and healthy attitude. I don't know.

I don't see it as being in poor taste at all. I can't even understand how a day meant to honor and remember soldiers can be concieved as a mockery.

[sikyon]

I can have hope when I know that Mankind can be better. When I know that everything we can do today, we can do it better tomorrow. When I know that people care about each other and know that people works together to accomplish goals that will make next generations live better. When I listen to Beethoven's Ninth or see the Mona Lisa, when I see that people care about science and understanding why are we here, instead of slaughtering each other. I agree that you can't have courage without fear, I just don't understand why we must have fear of each other.

Edit: I think I missed my point. The Universe is too big, we are too small. We have opression. We have limitations. Humans are fragile. Life is beautiful and we've spent thousands of years trying to understand why are we here and what's our purpose. We've learned that we are a privileged species, and that the chances of us being here at all was so minimal that it's ridiculous. If we are so weak, so unprotected against this huge universe, what's the point in celebrating the times when we had to fight each other, instead of celebrating the times when we showed ourselves our aptitudes and will to make ourselves a better species?

We're celebrating the times when people who have tried to fight each other have failed.

The sad fact is that humans are at their best when fighting each other. War is a supreme catalyst of technology; necessity is the mother of invention and war is her most powerful aspect. As a whole we actually grow stronger as the individuals compete. Many must die so that the best may grow, it's fundamental even to evolution.

[Telonius]

My great uncle drove an ammunition truck on D-Day.

I'm fairly certain he's not rolling in his grave because of what Google did.

64 years is long enough, time to move on. There have been other wars since then, other disasters and triumphs. One date - no matter how wonderful or awful - can't be seared into everybody's minds forever.

[Mauve Shirt]

I have no opinions on celebrating/commemorating D-day, but I think it's ridiculous to care. There's no point in contacting them to complain that they're not celebrating the right thing, it's their site and they can decorate it how they want when they want. It's just not worth being upset over.

[Om]

The sad fact is that humans are at their best when fighting each other. War is a supreme catalyst of technology; necessity is the mother of invention and war is her most powerful aspect. As a whole we actually grow stronger as the individuals compete. Many must die so that the best may grow, it's fundamental even to evolution.

Please include this statement in your complaint to Google

[sikyon]

I have no opinions on celebrating/commemorating D-day, but I think it's ridiculous to care. There's no point in contacting them to complain that they're not celebrating the right thing, it's their site and they can decorate it how they want when they want. It's just not worth being upset over.

Yeah, companies really shouldn't have any public responsibility. Who gives a crap if you can dump radioactive waste but through the clever use of legal loopholes make it legal, amiright?

[RTGoodman]

This was the one I was thinking of earlier, but it was for Veteran's Day, not June 6th.

[Skippy]

We're celebrating the times when people who have tried to fight each other have failed.

The sad fact is that humans are at their best when fighting each other. War is a supreme catalyst of technology; necessity is the mother of invention and war is her most powerful aspect. As a whole we actually grow stronger as the individuals compete. Many must die so that the best may grow, it's fundamental even to evolution.

Yes, I know. The day when an anthropoid found out he could kill another anthropoid with a rock, instead of killing the leopard that was threatening him, was a sad day. And I am sad that science and technology must find in war a way to grow.

However, I still think that this is not the only way in which we can grow. Mankind can be better and evolve in other ways, and better, if we try to focus our energy in other things that are not slaughtering each other with bigger and bigger weapons.