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2016-03-16, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
No, he didn't. And Stanley was already gone by then.
Charlie can't have any veiled Archons within 6 hexes of any GK city without paying huge fines automagically. We wasn't paying those fines, so they must not be any Archons near Spacerock. I already said that Charlie would have surveillance of Parson in the MK, but that would make it less likely that Charlie would notice Stanley when he flew away from Spacerock, not more likely.
Not that it matters, but Parson would have had no reason to enter the tunnel. The portal for GK (the city) doesn't work anymore because it's not a capital. GK (the side) has only one portal; it takes people to and from Spacerock.Last edited by eschmenk; 2016-03-16 at 09:33 AM.
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2016-03-16, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Sure, but with the treaty they cannot go nearer than 6 hexes to a town.
That would be a ring of 42 hexes to watch around each city.
Covering each of those hexes around Spacerock with say 2 Archons each
would require 84 Archons.
That seems a lot, given around 600 Archons to cover all of Erf.
Also, more scouts means more chances of them being spotted,
and CC might not have wanted that, for the duration of the treaty.-HaJo
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2016-03-16, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
So there is no consensus as to what should happen to this thread name when the thread is locked.
But there is a consensus that the current name reflects the lack of consensus in the Great Minds (aka the GM) as well as the lack of consensus as to whether the thread should be named after Vinnie or not.
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2016-03-17, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-17, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-18, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Update
And it looks like Stanley got an even better deal then we thought
I can hardly wait to see these guys in action...
and the faces of their opponentsLast edited by hajo; 2016-03-18 at 01:59 PM.
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2016-03-18, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Except the guns aren't shockamancy...
Last edited by SZbNAhL; 2016-03-18 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Re-wording
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2016-03-18, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Magnets.
My understanding was that most Archons didn't carry guns, only the ones in Charlescomm HQ? These would have been ones that were already in the field.
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2016-03-18, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-18, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Stanley seems to be doing a fine job of promoting Juggleo morale.
I'm not sure that's an issue yet. The guns aren't widely distributed: they're all kept at Charlescom (until the MK invasion). From all I can remember seeing, none of the field units would have them.
The issue then (it seems to me) would be whether archons could reach Stanley's present position, or his path back to Jetstone, from Charlescom in two or three turns.Last edited by Stegyre; 2016-03-18 at 02:15 PM.
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2016-03-18, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
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2016-03-18, 03:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Treebeer! I love it! I almost burst out laughing as soon as I saw the name.
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2016-03-18, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
I admit, I'm at a loss. The closest I could find was this?
Stegyre: not getting the joke since 1966.
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2016-03-18, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treebeard
But with more partying.
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2016-03-18, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-18, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Are the fireworks metaphorical?
Or could they capture Jetstone (or any other city he headed to) before he got there? Jetstone's tower was already worried that it was poorly defended.
And yes, that's another potential problem. Charlie might have more than 3 turns to assemble an attack on Stanley if Stanley feels safe enough where he's at. The text said, "He'd planned to march these clowns to Spacerock over land..." but I think may have only referred to the fifteen of them that were promoted to knights and were supposed to go to Spacerock all along. The rest of the JEs would remain in the field wrecking things under the original plan. Maybe the plan changed once Stanley got the message from Sizemore, though. And Stanley did say, "Assuming we make it through our next turn..." as if he knew that they were in considerable danger where they were at.
The picture at the bottom should be after GK's turn, but I can't tell if they moved or not.
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2016-03-18, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
Seems to me that there's a likely twist I haven't seen mentioned. Namely, that Charlie doesn't give a rat's tail about Stanley and only opposed Gobwin Knob because of Parson. Parson is now MIA and (hopefully) Charlie doesn't know where, just that he escaped. The big C has a lot of damage control on his plate right now to worry about a tiny tyrant who has lost all of his key assets. Everybody is assuming Stanley is on the hit list because nobody in Erf considers anyone (even a chief warlord) to be more important than the Overlord.
Just imagine him looking up at the sky just waiting. And waiting. And waiting...
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2016-03-18, 05:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
My mistake, however it doesn't really change the tactics.
Parson is in 1 of 2 places, Magic Kingdom or Spacerock
Charlie doesn't need to have archons in MK spying for him he has Jojo and TF2 Enginer guy.
and "Can't have Archons within 6 hexes of GK cities" just means he has them 7 hexes away, I also wasn't talking about the Tunnel in the Magic Kingdom I was talking about the Corridor That Ansom made going from GK lands straight into SpaceRock.
Of course, Charlie spying upon GK and knowing that Stanley is in the field is a tad moot with today's update.
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2016-03-18, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
The thing is, that tiny tyrant without his key assets is still in charge of paying for the upkeep of said assets (Leaving aside for the moment that I'm pretty sure prisoners get their upkeep paid by their captors). Charlie can't find his primary target? Nuke the side, see how long Parson can genius it up when he has the daily struggle of keeping upkeep paid on himself and whoever was stacked with him at the time.
Man this thing was full of outdated stuff.
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2016-03-18, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-18, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
But that would be costly. Super costly. Nuking the side by chopping it's head off will be a one time cost. If you keep blasting the side it's a ton of money each time which will let them pay upkeep regardless of having their cities hit over and over and over. It's a really bad idea to do a protracted war with the side you've got a truce against when that side can just sit and play defense and throw the money you're giving them back at the offense.
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2016-03-18, 06:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
A lot of that damage control would consist of capturing Spacerock and getting the guns and killing anyone that Bonnie talked to or who might know what she said. That will be very expensive. Charlie will want to get his money back back by killing Stanley.
Do we know what will happen to Parson, Maggie and Jack if Stanley is killed while they are prisoners? Do they count as being out in the field? I think they would just become side-less, but I'm not certain. Transylvito is paying their upkeep, so that wouldn't be a concern.
I think that's an absurd statement to make. Do you have any basis for it?
I thought Neo|Phyte was saying pretty much the same thing. I think he meant Parson by "primary target," not Stanley, if that's what you were thinking.Last edited by eschmenk; 2016-03-18 at 06:06 PM.
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2016-03-18, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-18, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
I believe it has been mentioned that Parson has a really high upkeep. So Stanley is a viable target...
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2016-03-18, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-19, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-03-19, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2016-03-19, 07:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
I sadly only just realized the magnet miracle poles are a reference to the f***ing magnet song.
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2016-03-19, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread VII: No Consensus, Left Unsealed
I was sort of expecting the Juggle elf advantage to be that their leadership is less centralized, so CharlesComm wouldn't be able to take them over the way he did with other natural allies.
I like this better, though.
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2016-03-19, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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