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Thread: Plan Ansom: Decapitation strike!
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2009-11-08, 02:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's been 50 or so turns since TBFGK, that's 50 dwagons popped alone by the arkentool. Not to mention 1-2 additional a turn from the dwagon hunt/tame parson made up to get stanley occupied. Not to mention any survivors from the actual battle that stanley brought back (1 he rode on for sure)
So that's 100-201 dwagons at least. Overkill for any fight if ansom brought them all.
Besides if it was safer with the army than Stanley would be there. He's still at home base because of the chance of him being croaked. So as powerful as the army is, the main base is just gonna be that much better defended.
Ansom didn't put everything into this fight, what he did was stopped expansion and consolidated all the forces being use to increase GKs side and put them towards tking out jetstone.
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2009-11-08, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's been 50 or so turns since TBFGK, that's 50 dwagons popped alone by the arkentool. Not to mention 1-2 additional a turn from the dwagon hunt/tame parson made up to get stanley occupied. Not to mention any survivors from the actual battle that stanley brought back (1 he rode on for sure)
So that's 100-201 dwagons at least. Overkill for any fight if ansom brought them all.
Also, the dwagons would still have a upkeep, they are not a free army like the decryptet.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2009-11-08, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Likely because dwagons start off a lot stronger than pretty much anything else, and can get much stronger through leveling, as parson's trap in book one showed, also quick question has it been stated anywhere that decrypted can still level?
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2009-11-08, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Even the uncroaked where able to level. And the decripted are very much alive and so should level as normal.
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2009-11-08, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Only warlords and casters can see stats. So, no, not any unit can see the stats
- Upkeep does not appear to be part of viewable stats. Parson only sees Move, Hits, Combat, Defense, and Special.
As for the mount discussion, I would point people to the summer updates where it was shown that any unit can become an archer unit, simply by using a missile weapon, they will simply be ineffective as one. Similarly we were shown that Parson cannot ride Dwagons, despite them being a mount unit. From this we can draw a conclusion that any unit can be a mount unit, but the efficiency of, say, a twoll, will be less than a horse, rug, dwagon or group of archons.
On a side note of page 4 the newer updates, given that lots of dwagons and decrypted archons are with Ansom; an airstrike by charlie, Transylvito or even Faq (with their new allies) could probably level Gobwin Knob, killing both Parson and Stanley, and reducing the threat of the decrypted by making them barbarian.Last edited by Shhalahr Windrider; 2009-11-08 at 11:01 PM. Reason: Ansom's Upkeep
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2009-11-09, 02:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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edit: Gah, nevermind. not allowing scripts must have blanked out text or something.
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2009-11-09, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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You know, I don't think Parson really lied to Charlie. They aren't really trying to conquer cities anymore (not that they mind doing so). At a certain point overextending yourself leaves you with thinned out forces and plenty of weak points. Taking out Jetstone is just a necessary move to break up the giant alliance forming against them.
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2009-11-09, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-09, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-09, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Actually GW itself poops one per turn without even being requested (notice how after the battle when it was GW turn there was one flying over the town despite not being much of a town?) and the hammer might not poop then but it does tames then and they been have taming the ones that naturally poop in the wilderness.
So that is 100/150 in 50 turns (1 GW pooped + 1 or 2 tamed) and even if they might have a upkeep they are so rich they can support it.
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2009-11-10, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Incorrect.
"I guess," shrugged Stanley. But he was showing some interest. "It used to take me two or three turns to find one when I would go out hunting, way back when. But it was still faster than popping them, and sometimes I'd get lucky and find two. Or three, this one time! I-"The above post made a lot more sense in my head.
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2009-11-10, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-10, 09:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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And a very enlightening discussion with decrypted Archons regarding their previous employer.
Look closely and see the "Pop" sound effect just before the dwagon appears.Last edited by Shhalahr Windrider; 2009-11-10 at 09:47 AM.
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2009-11-10, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not entirely sure whether he can actually see that, or if he's asking Wanda if decrypted Ansom's upkeep is zero (like an uncroaked). Also, we don't know for sure whether what Parson sees through the glasses is exactly the same info, no more and no less, than what commanders see naturally.
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2009-11-11, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-11, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah. I thought about that when rereading that strip a third time. After seeing references on the Erfworld Wiki to Upkeep being an unseeable stat. Add to that that I also re-discovered that we got a direct view of Jack's stats-as-Parson-sees-them with no upkeep…
Yeah, I'm sure Parson was asking Wanda now. And Wanda's confirmation implies that she instinctively knows the Upkeep of units she creates herself. Or at least pretends to and got lucky.The Future just ain’t what it used to be.
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2009-11-11, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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The above post made a lot more sense in my head.
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2009-11-11, 11:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am, its on Summer Update 35.
http://www.erfworld.com/page/20/
Also we can get a pretty idea of what GK was producing on Summer Update 45, half of turns were of Hobgobwins
http://www.erfworld.com/page/10/
Also even if Gobwin Knob (City) does not poop then every turn, the update 35 is clear they are getting at least 1 or 2 per turn by taming alone, since update 35 happened at GK turn 8 and we are at least turn 55 that means that at the very least they must be 55 dwagons in GK side (they got 2 dwagons tamed at the end of turn 8).
Even if its half of the number I used before its still a impressive force.
Also TigerHunter, Stanley abandoned GK (city) during GK turn, the rest of the battle was done on the coalition turn so even if there was a dwagon on GK production it would only poop on GK turn.
Edit: And no, they are NOT taking 3 turns to find a dwagon to tame, read the summer update.
Edit2: fixing links since they will point to the wrong page every time there is a new update (that just happened), if they are screwed up just look for older entries.Last edited by Drakron; 2009-11-12 at 12:06 AM.
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2009-11-12, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Please, the city does not poop dwagons or any other unit. It pops them. I think we're at a point where pooping is only relevant when Sizemore needs materials for his golems.
Edit2: fixing links since they will point to the wrong page every time there is a new update (that just happened), if they are screwed up just look for older entries.
Update 35: http://www.erfworld.com/2009/10/summer-updates-035/
Update 45: http://www.erfworld.com/2009/10/summer-updates-045/The Future just ain’t what it used to be.
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2009-11-12, 07:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, now Wanda is going to croak a few enemies, get some information, and then strike Jetstone. Only one thing to say:
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2009-11-14, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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So anyone else think she's dressed as Magenta from Rocky Horror?
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2009-11-15, 07:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Flash Mob! Is that Naughthamancy? Anyway, that would do a good wallpaper... "the enemy can see nothing else in this hex" indeed
Edit: Anyway, Avast is indicating a Worm from the adds from BlindFerret.Last edited by Slayn82; 2009-11-15 at 07:05 AM.
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2009-11-15, 10:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Flash casting" ...!
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2009-11-15, 03:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Magenta, or her memetic ancestor Bride of Frankenstein
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2009-11-15, 03:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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The haircut is definitely Bride of Frankenstein (borrowed in Rocky Horror as shown here). The outfit looks like the one in the linked image.
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2009-11-16, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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...no. Please stop pretending to be an authority on all things Erfworld. Additionally, please stop putting an extra 'o' in popping.
Stanley left the city here. On the Coalition's subsequent turn, they did nothing but scout the city (and, presumably, move the column), as evidenced here. We see dawns here and here, one is not shown but we see a change of day from here to here. The city did not fall on the same day Stanley left. In fact, Ansom delaying his assault by a turn was kinda an important plot point.
Edit: And no, they are NOT taking 3 turns to find a dwagon to tame, read the summer update.Last edited by TigerHunter; 2009-11-20 at 11:13 AM.
The above post made a lot more sense in my head.
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2009-11-25, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-09, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, 12/09/09.
Wanda proposes to decrypt Jack. People in the Erfworld forums focus on her descent into the madness, but i suggest a simpler explanation: She is going to face Jillian, and by croaking Jack she would show Jillian that they would all stay together. Or she is afraid Jack could intervene somehow.
Because, they have a dragon relay sistem, just send Jack to the capital to rest until the next turn.