Middle Earth WW: The Two Towers

[Legato Endless]

Well, that escalated quickly. Especially since nobody except AV actually gave any reasoning, and that was based on the fact that there was already a wagon on me.

Fleeing Coward because he's not me.

You don't want Murska? He's a better alternative in the not me ledger.

[Murska]

We're not that close to day end yet. Vote for who you think is guilty, not who has enough votes that you might avoid lynch yourself.

[AvatarVecna]

Murska's right, you'll have plenty of time to run around like a chicken with its head cut off later.

[Legato Endless]

So this is what it's like to be Internet Flea. He bares it out remarkably well.

[Elenna]

We're not that close to day end yet. Vote for who you think is guilty, not who has enough votes that you might avoid lynch yourself.

Murska's right, you'll have plenty of time to run around like a chicken with its head cut off later.

Okay, I panicked a little. I don't really have any strong suspicions from day 1 yet, though. Time to go back and reread.

[Thematthew]

Maleceptor, because he had flimsy reasoning for changing his vote day 1. It seems weird to me.

[Maleceptor]

I think i'll go with Ramsus for now. Just a hunch.

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Canceled vote for Ramsus (For now )

[Pelican]

I'm not getting any really strong wolf reads on the players who have been posting a lot so far; Mythaos's collecting of Elenna's posts out of context is the sort of thing that looks like she's putting in effort, but doesn't actually help us find wolves and is even potentially misleading, however, not realizing 101jir was innocent looks like a genuine mistake, and not one a wolf would make; I'm still a little suspicious of Avatar Vecna, but I think his posts could just as easily be sloppy villager play as they could be sloppy wolf play.

So instead, I'd like to take a look at some of the players who haven't spoken up as much. Right now I could see Luizeu, Duck999, and The Phantom as falling into this category--paying attention to the game but not contributing that much--and Luizeu already has a vote so why not throw on a second one to turn up the pressure a little bit.

[Xihirli]

I could go for a ThePhantom vote. This is the same thing ThePhantom did when we were wolves together, basically watching and not doing much.

[Ramsus]

I'll switch to Luizeu. My vote on Elenna was actually aimed at picking a person there wasn't any particular reason to vote for and to see who piled on and what excuses they'd use. (For the record this isn't at all uncommon an idea. Also for the record often it goes to waste as people just ignore your vote and focus on other things that can be argued for or against.)

Edit: Though now I feel bad since I'm voting to lynch him in two games at the same time.

Edi2t: @Maleceptor: Your hunch is wrong!

[Elenna]

So instead, I'd like to take a look at some of the players who haven't spoken up as much. Right now I could see Luizeu, Duck999, and The Phantom as falling into this category--paying attention to the game but not contributing that much--and Luizeu already has a vote so why not throw on a second one to turn up the pressure a little bit.

I like this idea, but I don't want to lunch Luizeu in two games at the same time, Duck999 said he'd be on vacation, and I believe ThePhantom is always quiet.
Tolomei hasn't said anything at all this game. Did he say he'd be away?

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Pointing an FoS on Luizeu, though.

[Maleceptor]

I'll switch to Luizeu. My vote on Elenna was actually aimed at picking a person there wasn't any particular reason to vote for and to see who piled on and what excuses they'd use. (For the record this isn't at all uncommon an idea. Also for the record often it goes to waste as people just ignore your vote and focus on other things that can be argued for or against.)

Edit: Though now I feel bad since I'm voting to lynch him in two games at the same time.

Edi2t: @Maleceptor: Your hunch is wrong!

My hunch is wrong? noooooooooo

Seriously though, I was wondering why you started the bandwagon, And i had a conspiracy theory that probably wouldn't make sense to anyone but my deranged mind.

I'd feel bad voting FC or Murska before D3 at least. Because i think killing people off early because they're good is just a silly thing to do. Albeit i'm feeling bad vibes toward FC at the moment. So i might change my vote later.

[Legato Endless]

I could go for a ThePhantom vote. This is the same thing ThePhantom did when we were wolves together, basically watching and not doing much.

That's Phantom every game though. He just likes participating and roleplaying more than hardcore competition.

[Luizeu]

So, during my break at work I found time to prepare something for us: A list of everybody's participation so far
There could be +1 or -1 small errors due to the hasty job.

Nonayer 0
Tolomei 0
TFT 1
Thephantom 1
Sprig 2
Indarra 2
Thematthew 2
Pelican 3
Duck 3
Sangenkai 4
Zar Peter 4
Lex 4
FC 6
Legato 7
Mythaos 7
Ramsus 7
Murska 8
Luizeu 9
Malec 10
Xihirli 10
Elenna 10
Visor 12
Avatar 13

I understand, some people are busy. Others might be travelling. (I didn't check for absence warnings)
But I can't shake the feeling of people trying to blend in with the background. As mentioned by Zar Peter before.
The participants in bold call my attention. ThePhantom is acting the way he always does.
But Sprig, TFT, theMatthew and Duck give me a different vibe.

I'll change my vote to Sprig

[Elenna]

BTW, you misspelled Tolomei's name.
Re absence warnings, Duck999 said he'd be away for a while in Werewolf Central. I don't think anyone else is away.

[Mythaos]

What about Thematthew? Two posts, two votes, a few words, that's it. I'm going to be busy today, and this might be the last time I get on for a while, so I'm going to throw that down.

[Maleceptor]

What about Thematthew? Two posts, two votes, a few words, that's it. I'm going to be busy today, and this might be the last time I get on for a while, so I'm going to throw that down.

I'd rather not counter vote at the moment, But i completely agree that he's suspicious.

[Zar Peter]

With Luizeus list and Mythaos reasoning I change my point to Thematthew

[Ramsus]

Thematthew was also busy for a while recently, so I don't think that means anything.

Edit: Of the people on that list, Nonayer is the one who sticks out to me the most since I know he's been active over in Vecna's game.

[Thematthew]

I really haven't had much to say, so I prefer to say little in that case. I also did just get back from a weekend road trip, which I specifically mentioned in the central post both when I left (right after BoP mentioned his travel plans) and when I returned (which is the last post in the thread as of me writing this.) But please, continue reading into how suspiciously different I'm acting in this game, you have soooooo much data after all Luizeu...

[Luizeu]

No need to get all defensive. I didn't even vote for you.

[AvatarVecna]

That more than anything makes Thematthew look suspicious to me. Vote change!

[Thematthew]

My point Luizeu on calling you out was that right after you brought up how "suspicious" I was acting I was being wagonned. I'm just irked that you gave basically anyone who wants it a perfectly good alibi to protect their orcish brethren.

[Pelican]

Well I think my vote is going to stay pretty firmly on Luizeu now. Not satisfied at all with his response to pressure; another case of collecting data that appears to be helpful but is actually rather misleading. The number of posts doesn't really tell you as much about a player's contribution as the content of their posts, especially in a game which, so far, has had a lot of discussion about topics outside of the context of this particular game (Murska constant, birthdays, LotR discussion, etc...). You just bolded the people with the smallest post counts, when honestly a lot of those people are more likely to be absentee villagers, and the wolves are more likely to be the ones posting a lot but doing very little in the way of hunting for suspects.

Plus, two people about whom I'm already uncertain joined the Luizeu counter wagon rather quickly; if Luizeu flips wolf, it points us rather nicely towards some suspects for tomorrow.

[Ramsus]

*looks at Vecna* What? No yeah. What you just said makes perfect sense and wasn't suspicious at all.....

Edit: Pelican makes a good point. But also left out the fact that some of those people who didn't post much probably didn't want to say anything about any of the meta topics or had nothing to add to them.

[AvatarVecna]

TBH I've been looking for an excuse to change my vote.

[Luizeu]

So instead, I'd like to take a look at some of the players who haven't spoken up as much. Right now I could see Luizeu, Duck999, and The Phantom as falling into this category--paying attention to the game but not contributing that much--and Luizeu already has a vote so why not throw on a second one to turn up the pressure a little bit.

Contradiction, much? Scolding me for voting on people who post less while you do the same?

I agree that number of posts alone doesn't prove anything. That's why the bad vibes I mentioned come from some of the people in bold.

[Indarra]

Forgive my absence. I didn't have anything to say, so I didn't.

[Xihirli]

That's never stopped me.

[Ramsus]

That's never stopped me.

So clearly Indarra has the right idea.