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2011-02-27, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
If you ever watched StarWars, you've seen that it can cut through almost anything. I want my players to fight a villain from the future, and what better weapon haha! I wonder if I should make it automatically do Con damage or be Vorpal.
Im thinking 3d8.
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2011-02-27, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
If I'm correct a lightsaber penetrates everything except another lightsaber, so it should bypass AC and DR.
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2011-02-27, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
It would be a longsword (or perhaps an elven longblade/curveblade) with:
* Adamantine (ignoring hardness less than 20)
* Throwing (+1)
* Keen (+1)
* Ghost touch (+2)
* Vorpal (+5)
* Brilliant Energy (+4) (ignoring armor and shield bonuses)
and probably +5.
So, you're looking at a +18 weapon there. :)Last edited by Glav; 2011-02-27 at 12:43 PM.
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2011-02-27, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
In M&M, the most common depiction of lightsabers is Corrosion, which is basically Damage + Toughness damage. Basically, it reduces your current and maximum hit points, the maximum before the current, when translated into D&D.
One thing you should not do is make it Constitution damage, as it would make objects and nonliving creatures immune to a lightsaber. Also, it doesn't really seem like Vorpal would work, as a lightsaber does not decapitate people often in the movies (except as a coup de grace).I use black for sarcasm.
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2011-02-27, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Adamantine Brilliant Energy should probably be enough for most applications of light sabers.
And why throwing? I don't know much about star wars, but I thought they switched off when they leave the Jedi's hand.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2011-02-27, 12:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-27, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Brilliant Energy makes a lightsaber useless against anything without a Constitution score, such as doors and droids.
Lightsabers can be kept lit by a Jedi when thrown, though it is more the Jedi's Force powers than the lightsaber itself, so it should not really be made Thrown.I use black for sarcasm.
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2011-02-27, 12:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-27, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
It depends on the individual Jedi. Some built the lightsaber with a toggle switch, others used a dead-man. Lightsabers use the force in construction, but operate on pure technology.
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2011-02-27, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
I seem to recall there being a Star Wars d20 game that had stats for lightsabers in it. I don't happen to have my copy handy. Taking a quick look at a Knights of the Old Republic FAQ shows lightabers doing 2d8 damage (compared to a long sword's d12 and a light repeating blaster's d8).
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2011-02-27, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-27, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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They should also always be treated as ignoring armor of all kinds, unless it is made with the cortosis or phrik special materials (which would cost a hefty price).
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2011-02-27, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
A 2d8 weapon, with a 19-20/x2 threat range, that deals untyped damage or force damage, rather than bludgeoning, slashing, or piercing damage. It makes touch attacks (ignoring armor, shield, and natural armor) and deals full damage against objects, ignoring hardness. The only objects that seemed to slow it down are things like reinforced blast doors, which have hundreds and hundreds of hit points and thus would take some time to cut through.
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2011-02-27, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Wait so a weapon that can cut through anything with a mere touch does d8 damage? Um no...
It would have to at minimum have a property where any non-living/object it touches is sundered. Any living being touched by the lightsaber would have that part sliced through and rendered useless (arm, body, head).
With the current classes and abilities of 3.5 or 4.0 ... Lightsabers just won't work. Anyone that would have one would be over powerful and not much could stop the blow from being a killing strike.
About the only thing that could save someone would be wall of force armor.... Maybe...Last edited by Dalek-K; 2011-02-27 at 02:03 PM.
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2011-02-27, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
You're clearly confusing a lightsaber with a katana. Katanas are much more powerful.
When seeing badass characters do awesome things with lightsabers in movies, it's important to distinguish between weapon-derived badassery and character-derived badassery. The original Star Wars d20 game didn't even let you build your lightsaber until you were level 2. You weren't a real jedi knight until level 6. So in D&D terms, the lowliest jedi knight is more badass than all but the most elite special forces teams of the real world, and a jedi master could easily defeat classic swrds'n'sorcery heroes like Aragorn or Conan in single combat.
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2011-02-27, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
I think this is the most practical interpretation of it. Auto-sunder-everything is... well, wrong. If it worked like that, then the reinforced blast doors wouldn't have been a problem.
I also think damage reduction should continue to apply, if only the supernatural sorts. I could also see it doing fire damage, as it uses heat to damage things.My latest homebrew: Majokko base class and Spellcaster Dilettante feats for D&D 3.5 and Races as Classes for PTU.
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2011-02-27, 03:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
That's not true. There are many, many examples of people who have survived being slashed with a lightsaber.
One of them, a Hutt, actually had a third of his head removed by the strike.
Turns out that example actually had one third of his head removed from a giant killer worm, never mind.Last edited by LOTRfan; 2011-02-27 at 03:35 PM.
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2011-02-27, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Everyone is thinking too hard about this.
They have this already. It's called wraithstrike. It's a 3rd level spell that says your next attack ignores AC, and it doesn't have brilliant energy's "can't hit nonliving things" clause. Figure out how much this lasting forever on an adamantine bastard swordwouldshould cost.
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ETA: Also, lightsabers have been deflected by non-lightsaber things multiple times. Even if we don't count the prequels or the EU, there's a bit in the original trilogy (Empire, I think), where Luke scores a glancing hit on Vader's helmet and it bounces off.Last edited by CN the Logos; 2011-02-27 at 03:44 PM.
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2011-02-27, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Also in RotJ, where it bounces off the railing while he's wailing on Vader's helmet. Cuts, too, but there you have it.
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2011-02-27, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-27, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
So really they're functionally the same as a sword but as superhot laserswords they deal enough fire damage to melt through things rather quickly. A +1 Flaming Corrosive bastard sword would be enough to emulate pretty much everything it's been seen to do.
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2011-02-27, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
That part is... debatable. In some EU, the lightsaber doesn't give off heat at all, while in others it's hot enough to seal wounds.
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2011-02-27, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-27, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
Once again, star wars writers were all over the place with that. It seems that Lucas prefers the version with lightsabers giving off heat (why on earth he'd allow other writers to say otherwise when it is clearly depicted in the movie is beyond me).
It seems that later writers have attempted to retcon this, saying that a containment field stops the blade from giving off heat, but does not stop heat transfer from physical contact. Let's go with that, as it explains how Qui-Gon did that.Extended Homebrew Signature
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2011-02-27, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
In the novelization of Star Wars: A New Hope- (credited to George Lucas, but ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster) Luke holds his hand fairly close to the blade, and notices it gives off no heat.
So, it's been like that from very early on.Last edited by hamishspence; 2011-02-27 at 04:37 PM.
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2011-02-27, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
If it only cut, and didn't cauterize, Vader cutting off Luke's hand would have been followed by a shower of blood.
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2011-02-27, 05:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How much Damage would a Lightsaber do in D and D?
On the other hand, they have jedi learn with the lightsaber while blindfolded... Maybe their eradication wasn't all clone troopers, but maybe lightsabers just aren't that dangerous unless wielded purposefully by a well-trained space wizard.
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2011-02-27, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Training 'sabers. Not everyone is lucky enough to have those, though.
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