2D8HP's extended mea culpa and Random Banter #218

[Grey_Wolf_c]

People may be ignoring the distinction between jails and prisons.

Fair enough. In my defense, my actual language doesn’t make a distinction. If cities in America have jails and only higher level government entities have prisons, then amend my post up there to say jail.

GW

[2D8HP]

Sorry to hear that. Hope they are alright?

Oh, it was a Court case, and I mostly repair plumbing fixtures at the San Francisco Hall of Justice, so seeing someone I've seen in-person on the news isn't that unusual, but that it was six people for one story was

Last year there was a court case that got national attention and I was amused to see the Cadets and Deputies suddenly wearing ties, which I'd never seen them do before, and I saw one of the out-of-town reporters fiercely tell a deputy that she would hold him responsible if the equipment in her news van was stolen as she was dissatisfied with the parking, and I could tell he was biting his tongue trying not to laugh.

I thought plumber for the city, or something.

Yep.

Not to pretend I know all that much about prisons (and not being able to talk about what all I do know about them), but to the best of my knowledge they're either state or federal, and wouldn't be run by cities.

Could be totally wrong here, of course.

San Francisco is both a City and a County (so a Board of Supervisors, not a City Council), and it has a few County Jails, one of which most of my Service Orders come from.

Isn't jails and prisons the same thing.

Nah, in California usually Jails are County, and Prisons are State and Federal, but there still signs that say "City Prison" from when the now closed 6th floor Jail used to be the Police Departments responsibility (the 7th floor one was always the Sheriff's Department).

[DavidSh]

Isn't jails and prisons the same thing.

In the US currently, jail is for people awaiting trial who were unable to obtain release on bail, and for people sentenced to less than a year. Prison is for longer sentences. Jails are typically city or county-run, while prisons are state or federal. For example, in New York City, Rikers Island is a city jail. Up the river, Sing Sing Correctional Facility is a state prison.

[Bartmanhomer]

In the US currently, jail is for people awaiting trial who were unable to obtain release on bail, and for people sentenced to less than a year. Prison is for longer sentences. Jails are typically city or county-run, while prisons are state or federal. For example, in New York City, Rikers Island is a city jail. Up the river, Sing Sing Correctional Facility is a state prison.

Oh I see. I learned something new today.

[Peelee]

Oh, it was a Court case, and I mostly repair plumbing fixtures at the San Francisco Hall of Justice

I choose to believe that the participants in there wear capes and tall boots and brightly colored costumes.

[Honest Tiefling]

Last year there was a court case that got national attention and I was amused to see the Cadets and Deputies suddenly wearing ties, which I'd never seen them do before, and I saw one of the out-of-town reporters fiercely tell a deputy that she would hold him responsible if the equipment in her news van was stolen as she was dissatisfied with the parking, and I could tell he was biting his tongue trying not to laugh.

That's good to hear. Through I am amused by the idea that no one uses this as an opportunity to wear something silly, but I guess that might get you into trouble.

[2D8HP]

I choose to believe that the participants in there wear capes and tall boots and brightly colored costumes.

In San Francisco?


Yes.

Yes we do.

[Honest Tiefling]

In San Francisco?


Yes.

Yes we do.

In this heat!? We need to find you some cute little strappy heels, stat.

[WarKitty]

I joke that I have a friend who's always in prison. She's a lawyer who works with convicts on family law.

[Insane Jeenyus]

Only if it's gluten-free, all natural, vegan imported oil soaked rags. I have standards for my kitchen fires.

I prefer tossing some rags soaked in boiled linseed oil tossed in a pile of recycled paper in a pile next to the gas line.

[2D8HP]

In this heat!? We need to find you some cute little strappy heels, stat.

Ob that sounds lovely.

[Peelee]

In this heat!? We need to find you some cute little strappy heels, stat.

Huh, I wonder what the weather in SF is like.

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[Insane Jeenyus]

Huh, I wonder what the weather in SF is like.

....

as of 0333 GMT, the weather in san fran is clear with no fronts near by. there is a high pressure to the north west that will keep the skys clear. the temp is 58 F, winds 10 mph from the south, humidity at 88%, dew point 54 F and pressure at 29.97 in. at this time

[Honest Tiefling]

Huh, I wonder what the weather in SF is like.

Please, we're from North California, we have no idea how to tolerate variance in temperatures. Anything outside of our comfort zone is reason to panic.

And the last time I went into the city, it had decided to try out this summer business and I was slathering myself in so much sunscreen I left white marks EVERYWHERE.

[2D8HP]

Please, we're from North California, we have no idea how to tolerate variance in temperatures. Anything outside of our comfort zone is reason to panic....

I can confirm.

[Knaight]

Errr... I’ve heard a lot of bad stuff about American prisons, but I’d hope that it would go without saying that prisons generally have plumbing and are owned by the local authorities, yes.

GW

There are levels at which the local authorities manage them (who goes in and out, though lobbying makes that complicated), and there's generally at least some plumbing. That said ownership is a bit thornier, a lot of them are privatized to at least some degree, some pretty much fully (though not quite to the private police forces enforcing their private law with no oversight. Yet).

[Teddy]

I´m waiting for the result of a co-op experiment to come back. Sorry, I don't know the english term for it and I'm too lazy to look it up, but one of the side products of making beer is the so-called "Treber" (in German), which is basically the half-spent malt used during production. Depending on the type of beer, that's actually still a very high quality product, compared to industrial bakery malts.

I tried researching this, because we've got a different word for it in Swedish, namely "drav" (the etymologies could be related). Turns out there doesn't seem to be any dedicated word for it in English. "Spent grains" seems to be the most descriptive term.

It´s not proper german if it doesn't sound harsh (*) and it´s not the proper use of the german language if some anglo-weenies don't feel offended, so no worries ;)

Wait, does this mean you're denying the Anglo-Saxons the Saxon part, or do you consider Saxons weenies? Or do you actually mean Anglo-Danes?

Had some, but rather: still have, some newseelandish Savignon Blanch and some venice lounge music. Life is good.

Newseelandish? Do you mean New-Zeelandish or Neu-Seelandish?

ION:
Got my computer back, and wow, the fan output is cool instead of burning hot regardless of CPU load. And I saw my computer hit 100% CPU usage at one point, which I'm pretty sure hasn't happened for a long time, and probably all due to the fact that it would overheat if it did. Niiice~

[enderlord99]

If you unverb the word "lauter" then it seems to work.

[LaZodiac]

Sweet. Glad your computer trouble's been fixed Teddy!

Meanwhile in Zodi news: I'm probably too generous a person. My Mom needed some assistance paying off a bit of her rent for her bar so she could buy time to finish her taxes so she could get access to her bar's business account so she can pay all of the rent and so she can sell the bar. The amount she needed was 20 000 dollars.

I could pay for it, that leaves me with around 3000 left, but...I mean it stings. It hurts a lot. That's 7 or 8 years of saving and just LIFE, gone. She said she'll pay me back, but we'll see. Additionally this delays my plan of moving to live on my own by six months, less if I get paid back sooner rather than later/never.

But if I didn't do this she'd lose the bar, and since it's tied to the mortgage of the house she'd lose the house, and I live in the house so her losing the house would be less than ideal.

[Peelee]

Please, we're from North California, we have no idea how to tolerate variance in temperatures. Anything outside of our comfort zone is reason to panic.

And the last time I went into the city, it had decided to try out this summer business and I was slathering myself in so much sunscreen I left white marks EVERYWHERE.

I can confirm.

If y'all ever come down here (probably for Atlanta, there's not much else that's really touristy), I recommend October or November. Barring summer overstaying or winter coming early, that weather should feel fine for y'all

Also, sunburns don't hurt me. They itch like crazy, but don't hurt at all. Still very unpleasant, but from what I hear about how it affects everyone else, I think I can't out ahead on that one.

[DataNinja]

Oh, geez, Zodi… neither of those situations really seems at all ideal. I'm sorry that you've had to be put in that situation. Is there a way that you can make it something official, so that there's a legal record of the transaction and agreement and all, to make sure that you do get the money back? Because that's a good chunk of life, of your work that would be put on the line there.

[Honest Tiefling]

And Zodi, I am sorry to hear that. It sounds like you don't really trust your mother to pay you back. Perhaps you could have another relative or friend be aware of the situation to guilt her into paying? Probably not the nicest of things, but meh.

As for Atlanta, it gets to 40 degrees! Do you want me to freeze!?

As for the malt, I vote we steal from the Germans, not the Swedes. Any takers?

[Peelee]

As for Atlanta, it gets to 40 degrees! Do you want me to freeze!?

Something something coldest winter of my life was the summer I spent in San Francisco.

[Anonymouswizard]

As for Atlanta, it gets to 40 degrees! Do you want me to freeze!?

Hey, that's warm enough for a barbeque!

[2D8HP]

Hey, that's warm enough for a barbeque!

A barbeque?

Whike sitting in an English garden?

Waiting for the sun?

If the sun don't come you get a tan from standing in the English rain?


I am the walrus

Goo goo g'joob, goo goo goo g'joob!

[WarKitty]

Bah, the english don't even know what a barbecue is.

[Peelee]

So I don't know whether I've talked about this or not, but I recently discovered that northerners have a weird definition for barbecue. Like, down here, barbecue is stuff like pulled pork or ribs or sometimes chicken, but it's a very specific category of food. But other people try to claim that it's anything you cook on a grill. Even to the point of calling any sort of cookout a barbecue. Crazy stuff.

[2D8HP]

So I don't know whether I've talked about this or not, but I recently discovered that northerners have a weird definition for barbecue....

And also definitions further afield.

Sometime last decade when I was an apprentice construction worker a Journeyman steamfitter who said he lived in a tent and would beg my candy bar used to mention that he "barbeques every night".

Another apprentice explained to me thar was a way of saying he smoked something that was then illegal every night.

[WarKitty]

So I don't know whether I've talked about this or not, but I recently discovered that northerners have a weird definition for barbecue. Like, down here, barbecue is stuff like pulled pork or ribs or sometimes chicken, but it's a very specific category of food. But other people try to claim that it's anything you cook on a grill. Even to the point of calling any sort of cookout a barbecue. Crazy stuff.

Barbecue is pulled pork with apple cider vinegar and red pepper flakes.

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[Peelee]

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