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2020-11-09, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Weather reading...something connected to Zimmy?
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2020-11-11, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Tony is such a ****.
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2020-11-12, 07:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Honestly at this point I think it's more likely that 'Tony has severe social anxiety and has no idea how to deal'.
He actually seems to be trying in these past two pages, but just cannot get over whatever it is about Court Annie that makes her hard for him to be around without freaking out.
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2020-11-15, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
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2020-11-15, 06:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Yes, he knows he's a terrible father. That's why he "abandoned" her (read: sent her to live with his close trusted friends who he knew would do a much better job of raising her and where she was very happy) while he went off to dedicate his life to keep her from dying if she had a child. This in turn is because he lacks the ability to form proper emotional connections*, which really isn't his fault.
*I'm guessing severe autism, but this being GK there's probably some much more fantastical explanation.
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2020-11-15, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2013
Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
The development of Tony and Annie's relationship has been my favorite part of GC for a while now. It ignores the easy trope of Tony being a horrible abusive father because he's a bad person. Neither has it tried to sugarcoat things - what Tony did was awful and the story has pulled no punches. It also ignores the "sudden revelation, now everything is cool" plot that most media employs. Their relationship is deeply broken and has damaged both Tony and Annie to the point they cannot interact anymore - even if both of them are aware the other is trying.
Adding an extra Annie has been an interesting twist on it. Tony doesn't think of Forest Annie as "his" Annie, and as such is able to have a much more normal relationship with her. Which only twists the knife deeper into Court Annie...
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2020-11-16, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2016
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Tony was so awful on his return that I stopped reading the comic for several months, and had to be talked into going back.
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2020-11-16, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
It's good to have a bad character be complicated and not change immediately in one story arc. But sometimes it seems like the characters are acting like Tony's problem is being closed off and awkward, rather than being abusive and neglectful. Like, Kat became friends with him without any issue. She punched a death god for Annie but was willing to look past what Tony did?
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2020-11-17, 12:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
... while she felt unloved and abandoned because he never explained anything to her and she was just a child?
When he returned and immediately shamed and disciplined her?
When he has not once that we've seen tried to explain this to her in any detail?
Don't get me wrong, I see the factors that make this less egregious, but he's still accountable for his actions and severely in the negative here. As someone else has said, many characters/the plot just shrugging this off only makes things seem worse because of the dissonance.
Slightly aside, I didn't get the impression from anywhere that he left to try to help annie. He felt he couldn't face her after Surma died and then was researching for the court then went to find the psychopomps and thought he could reach Surma through the antenna. He doesn't mention trying to help her. Even Donnie says "what you just saw doesn't excuse anything he did".Proud dictator of the miko fan club
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2020-11-18, 10:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Nope. nope, this is not ominous, unsettling, and scary IN THE SLIGHTEST!
God, I hope Gamma's all right.
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2020-11-20, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I actually like Tony but I want to say that for myself (and I think others that like him) it's not about his actions being less egregious so much as it is about accepting those mistakes and moving on. If you only ever saw me at my worst you'd think I was scum. Most people, at some point in their lives, make horrible decisions and/or lash out at those who they love and care for. That's not a good thing but it's also not an individuals entire existence. It's not the entirety of 'who they are.' Tony is a **** father whose made some horrible mistakes. I think he knows that - his friends and family certainly know that. What would be the gain in just ****ting on him? Try to force him to make amends for things he's done when he seems literally incapable of doing so? He's not happy that he's broken - he simply is.
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2020-11-23, 09:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Is....is Zimmy somehow inside Loup?
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2020-11-23, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I think this is related to her being tormented by the birds.
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2020-11-30, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
That was short. And confusing. And ominous.
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2020-11-30, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Just noticing:
Gamma is the third letter of the Greek alphabet.
Zimmy's real name, Zeta, is also a letter in the Greek alphabet, the sixth (don't know that the number matters but just thought I'd include the details).
Omega is often used to symbolize the end because it is the last letter of the Greek alphabet.
Don't know what it means, but Zimmy went from calling one name, Gamma, to saying the other as if she recognized it. It may be that she's just aware of what Loup said. But, maybe Omega is something alive (or close to it) that Zimmy, being Zimmy is aware of.
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2020-11-30, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2007
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Isn't Omega the name of the Court project to control the aether?
And I can't believe I didn't catch the connection between Gamma, Zeta, and Omega. I'm Greek for pete's sake!Many thanks to Assassin 89 for this avatar!
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2020-12-01, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
The "Omega Device" was first mentioned in Chapter 53 by Tony.
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2020-12-07, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Site is downnevermind, it's back.
Here we go with Zimmy.Last edited by wingnutx; 2020-12-07 at 02:35 PM.
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2020-12-09, 06:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
If we were in Zimmyworld, there'd be scenes of death and mayhem visible though the windows, and the angles would be funny. So I think this is still the Court. And that something is chasing her.
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2020-12-16, 06:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Nasty elves!
Not that they're totally wrong.
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2020-12-21, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-04, 06:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
And NOW we get to the crux of the matter. Where is Gamma?
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2021-01-27, 05:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
BAD!!!! Reverse course! Retreat! Run away! GET OUT OF THERE, ANNIE!!!!
Don't be fooled...
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2021-02-01, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I love how fake-Renardine is just repeating Surma over and over again, like a Videogame NPC.
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2021-02-08, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I forgot that Zimmy is terrified of Kat.
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2021-03-03, 03:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Did... Did Zimmy just merge Antimony again?
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2021-03-03, 04:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Yea. The commentary confirms it if nothing else.
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2021-03-03, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
Thank god. The "two Annies" thing was bizarre and didn't really add to the story. It stuck around way longer than it should have.
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2021-03-03, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I doubt it's "just fixed", this could still be inside Zimmy's... mindverse?
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2021-03-03, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup
I'm not sure I completely agree to be honest. It's the sort of thing I was initially annoyed by because it was such an abrupt change that felt very temporary. "Why do this if it's going to be a thing for just a brief moment before it gets undone?" was the question I kept asking myself. But it kept going - and it explored a lot of interesting aspects of it. How do they treat each other? How do others treat them differently? What causes them to work together and what causes conflict? Sure, it was weird, but it taught us a lot about the characters and it was at least a type of weird that was handled with effort rather than as a lazy throwaway or something like that.
I'm definitely fine with it being 'fixed' if that's what's happening but I'm very glad that it was explored as thoroughly as it was up to this point.