Zinc Saucier XIII: Melee madness for lucky 13

**mattie_p** · 2013-04-13, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)

Welcome one and all to the thirtenth Zinc Saucier challenge, where Playgrounders come to test their skill in the art of beautiful and bizarre (and bizarrely beautiful) builds. We’re moving, shaking, and doing our thing.

The challenge? To come up with a build that has the same abilities and feel as the Secret Ingredient WITHOUT actually using it!

For the thirteenth challenge get ready to whirl with abandon, from Complete Warrior page 25, the Dervish!

Our challengers will have about 2 weeks to build a complete build from levels 1-20 using a 32 point buy and all official WOTC D&D 3.5 materials (excluding dragon magazine, but including any WOTC online enhancements) with the abilities and feel of a Dervish without actually using any levels in it.

Entries must be submitted by Saturday, 11:59pm GMT, 11 May, 2013.

Contestants will be judged and awarded a score out of 5 in each of 5 categories;

* Innovation (Uniqueness in character concept, race, class, etc)
* Power (How powerful and versatile it is compared to the base class)
* Elegance (What can only be described as how well the build "flows", i.e not using lots of 1-2lv dips, sacrificing flavour for power or using flaws)
* Ingredient (How well the build captures the abilities and feel of the base class)

Presentation would be best in the style of how the iron chef does their presentations, however any style is allowed so long as it is clear on how the build was made.

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[b]NAME OF ENTRY[/b]
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3rd|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities

4th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities

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For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage). For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list, similar to this:

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Please do not post details of your build on the board before it is ready, so as not to spoil the surprise for others.

Sauciers may submit as many builds as they want but please don't use leadership, as we don't want to overfeed the judges.

Previous challenges;

A few administrative notes:

Originally Posted by Iron Chef Chairman

Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere, as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Also, item familiars are forbidden because I hate 'em.

Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.

Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavor for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, may lose you points. Please note the following change: a legal source's relative obscurity should not be considered as penalizing Elegance, excepting the aforementioned issues with Unearthed Arcana. Using too many sources may be an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion, but a book's relative obscurity may not.

Is Dragon Compendium Allowed? Yes, but individual issues of Dragon Magazine are not.

What about 3.0 materials? 3.0 materials, whether online or in printed form, are allowed unless they've been officially updated to a 3.5 edition.

Are Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, or Kingdoms of Kalamar allowable sources? The Dragonlance Campaign Setting is allowed, but the subsequent books for Dragonlance are considered 3rd party, and are therefore not eligible, despite the "WotC approved" status of those books. The same holds for Oriental Adventures (1st party) and the subsequent Rokugan books (3rd party). Materials from Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, and Kingdoms of Kalamar are considered 3rd party for purposes of this contest, and are therefore not allowed.

What about online sources in general? If the online source is a) published by WotC, and b) not replaced by an updated version at a later time, it is eligible. Use it, link it.

Where's the line drawn with "acceptable/unacceptable" for Unearthed Arcana? This will likely vary a bit from Chairman to Chairman. Item Familiars and Gestalt have always been verboten, since before IC migrated to GitP; don't expect that to change. Flaws have similarly always been noted as warranting a deduction; while I am Chairman, I'm extending that to Traits, though they warrant 1/2 the penalty in Elegance that a Flaw would because they're roughly 1/2 as useful. Alternate spell systems, alternate skill systems and alternate crafting rules all create an uneven playing field, and as such, will be disallowed for as long as I am Chairman. Bloodlines are ripe for abuse, and will be strongly discouraged as long as I am Chairman (see below). Note that judges are allowed to look askance at any use of Unearthed Arcana not specifically mentioned above, at their discretion, and otherwise penalize Elegance according to their preference.

What, exactly, does the ban on Leadership mean? As folks have started to try to work around the edges of this one, I'm forced to spell it out more plainly. No Leadership, Draconic Cohort, or Feats that grant a similar ability are allowed EXCEPT Wild Cohort while I am chairman. Any PrC you choose with Leadership or a Leadership-analog has that ability entirely ignored for this contest, as it may neither be used nor traded away via any means whatsoever.

What's the minimum score in a category? Assuming an entry is legal, the minimum score in any category is 1. If a judge is convinced that an entry is illegal by the RAW, the judge may give a 0 or decline to score a given entry. Because this contest focuses on Player Characters, an entry that is not technically allowed for a PC, but is viable as an NPC, counts as a legal entry, but may receive a minimum score at the judges' discretion.

Level adjustment buy-off (from Unearthed Arcana) is expressly prohibited, because this is an ECL 20 build. You are not granted a set experience point total to use. Bloodlines are permitted, but at the cost of +1LA per bloodline level (this is a change from the rules in UA where the character's ECL does not increase).

This competition is inspired by the Playground Iron Chef Competitions and uses mostly identical rules.

Also it comes with double prize money.

Allez Sauciers!

**dysprosium** · 2013-04-14, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by mattie_p

For the thirteenth challenge get ready to channel your inner wilderness, from Complete Warrior page 25, the Dervish!

Allez Sauciers!

chairman check the copy/paste

dervish. i'm going to have to think of something . . .

**Snowbluff** · 2013-04-14, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)

... This PrC has been obsolete for so long.

I don't think I'll make this the first one I'll participate in.

**mattie_p** · 2013-04-15, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by dysprosium

chairman check the copy/paste

dervish. i'm going to have to think of something . . .

Fixed it, thanks. Eh, if that is the only error I can live with it. I made the same error in True Necromancer and no one caught it.

I won't bother fixing now.

**Kazyan** · 2013-04-16, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)

Still going? I've got a neat idea, so I'll enter this time.

**amdskitzo** · 2013-04-17, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)

I have an entry in the works, who do I submit it to.

**mattie_p** · 2013-04-17, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by amdskitzo

I have an entry in the works, who do I submit it to.

Once you finish it, send it to me via private message to preserve anonymity.

**Z3ro** · 2013-04-17, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)

Hmmm...Dervish is one of my favorite PrC. I may have to throw an entry together, should time allow.

**mattie_p** · 2013-04-28, 11:59 PM (ISO 8601)

OK, due to unforseen circumstances, I am extending the contest an additional two weeks. The new deadline is 11 May 2013.

**herrhauptmann** · 2013-04-29, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)

How do you feel about fractional bab/saves? "Okay, but lacking elegance?"

I've got a build that is legal without fractional, but it would get slightly higher saves and bab with fractions.

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Is there a high penalty for not including a lot of fluff/backstory for the character?

**mattie_p** · 2013-04-29, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by herrhauptmann

How do you feel about fractional bab/saves? "Okay, but lacking elegance?"

I've got a build that is legal without fractional, but it would get slightly higher saves and bab with fractions.

edit:
Is there a high penalty for not including a lot of fluff/backstory for the character?

No to fractional, but add a note. Judges like those kind of play notes. Backstory should be like a mini skirt, long enough to cover the subject, but short enough to keep things interesting.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-02, 10:50 AM (ISO 8601)

So submission number two is in. A little more than one week left until the extended deadline. Deadline was extended due to the recent outage, as well as my upcoming move into an apartment.

**Callin** · 2013-05-02, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)

I honestly cant think of a build for this challenge. Tried wracking the brain. So I look forward to seeing the entries and seeing what they pulled off.

**Snowbluff** · 2013-05-02, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)

Really? Maybe I should post my build to show you what I was talking about earlier, Callin.

**Callin** · 2013-05-02, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)

Yea I just could not think of ways to emulate the SI.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-02, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Snowbluff

Really? Maybe I should post my build to show you what I was talking about earlier, Callin.

Well, if you don't enter, at least wait until after the deadline to reveal your secrets.

**herrhauptmann** · 2013-05-02, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by mattie_p

So submission number two is in. A little more than one week left until the extended deadline. Deadline was extended due to the recent outage, as well as my upcoming move into an apartment.

I've got a build done, heck, it's even formatted for the forums.
I just don't have any fluff/backstory for it.

**dysprosium** · 2013-05-11, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)

Submitted my build for this contest.

Good luck everyone.

**herrhauptmann** · 2013-05-11, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)

Put mine in the other day.

I hope the submissions are put up soon.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)

I'll have them up shortly. Probably an hour early or so, I have a game tonight and need to get them up beforehand. I'll be too tired after. 4 Entries so far.

EDIT: Time to get ready to go. Here are the four entries. Please refrain from posting until we're done.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)

Singing and dancing a lullaby...

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der·vish
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1. A member of any of various Muslim ascetic orders, some of which perform whirling dances and vigorous chanting as acts of ecstatic devotion.

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No one knows the real name of Vanya Nuru, "beautiful death" in Elven. Some believe she was the daughter of a famous dancer who was murdered and vowed to carry on her mother's legacy while protecting the innocent. Witnesses and survivors of Vanya report that she sings a lullaby filled with sorrow and sadness while fighting.

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Elf Bard 4/Battledancer 6/Bladesinger 10

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Str 16 Dex 16* Con 10* Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 14

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|Balance 8, Concentration 7, Hide 8, Move Silently 8, Perform(Sing, Dance) 8, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 8|---|AC Bonus +0, Unarmed Strike, Unarmed Damage 1d6

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|Balance 9, Concentration 7, Hide 9, Move Silently 9, Perform(Sing, Dance) 9, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 9|Combat Expertise|battle dancer's performance

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|Balance 11, Concentration 7, Hide 11, Move Silently 11, Perform(Sing, Dance) 11, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 11|---|Bonus speed +10ft, Unarmed Damage 1d8

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|Balance 12, Concentration 7, Hide 12, Move Silently 12, Perform(Sing, Dance) 12, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 12|Weapon Focus(Longsword)|Dance of the Vexing Snake, AC Bonus +1

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|Balance 13, Concentration 7, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing, Dance) 13, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 13|---|Dancer's Strike(magic)

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|Balance 14, Concentration 8, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 14, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 14|---|Bladesong Style

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|Balance 15, Concentration 9, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 15, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 15|Snowflake Wardance|Lesser Spellsong

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|Balance 16, Concentration 10, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 16, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 16|---|---

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|Balance 17, Concentration 11, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 17, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 17|---|Song of Celerity(2nd)

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|Balance 19, Concentration 13, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 19, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 19|---|Greater Spellsong

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|Balance 20, Concentration 14, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 20, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 20|---|---

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|Balance 21, Concentration 15, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 21, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 21|Einhander|Song of Celerity(4th)

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|Balance 22, Concentration 16, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 22, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 22|---|---

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|Balance 23, Concentration 17, Hide 13, Move Silently 13, Perform(Sing) 13, Perform(Dance) 23, Sense Motive 7, Tumble 23|---|Song of Fury[/table]

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1st-level Songs:

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Accelerated Movement
Charm Person
Combat Readiness
Improvisation
Phantom Threat
Feather Fall

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Bladeweave
Blur
Curse of Impending Blades
Eagle's Splendor

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Allegro
Haste
Love's Lament
Sonic Shield

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Blinding Beauty
Inner Beauty
Greater Invisibility

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Using her songs to increase her mobility, ability to hit while possibly hindering her enemies ability to move, counterattack otherwise escape, Vanya is a beauty on the battlefield.

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Being the skilled dancer she is, it is easy for Vanya to adapt to anything. One can swap out the levels in Blade Dancer for equal levels of Swashbuckler, gaining Weapon Finesse, Grace and Insightful Strike. In this case, Vanya wields a Rapier(switching Weapon Focus at 9 accordingly) and replaces her feats at 12 and 15 with Mobility and Spring Attack.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)

Who was that again? Well, it's tricky...

Originally Posted by Ayce

Ayce (say: Aisha)
Stats at level 1.
Str 14 Dex14 Con 12 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 15
At level 20
Str 14 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 20
15 Bab. Fort 9. Ref 15. Wis 22.

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{table=head]Level|Class|BAB|Fort|Ref|Will|Skills|Feats|Class Features
1st|Bard 1|0|0|2|2|Perform:Flute4, Know:Arcana4, Concentrate4, Listen4, Spot4, Tumble 4, Balance4, Prof:Astrologer4|Dodge, Able Learner|Bardic Music, bardic knowledge, countersong, fascinate, inspire courage+1|Feats|Class abilities
2nd|Bard2 |1 |0 |3 |3 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble, +1balance,+1Profession |None|None
3rd|Bard3 |2 |1 |3 |3 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble, +1balance, +1Profession|Mobility|Inspire Competence
4th|Bard4 |3 |1 |4 |4 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble, +1balance, 1survival|None|None
5th|Bard5 |3 |1 |4 |4 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble, +1balance, +1survival|None|None
6th|Bard6 |4 |2 |5 |5 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble, Nimble Stand|Snowflake Wardance|Suggestion
7th|Spellsword1 |5 |4 |5 |7 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen|Nonek|-10% ASF, +1 Bard CL
8th|Swiftblade1 |6 |4 |7 |9 |+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble|Spring Attack|Swift Surge +1/+0ft
9th|Swiftblade2 |7 |4 |8 |10|+1Perform, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble|Extra Music|Blurred Alacrity, +1 Bard CL
10th|Swiftblade3|8 |5 |5 |8 |+1Survival, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate,+1listen, +1spot, +1tumble|None|Sudden Casting, +1 Bard CL
11th|SublimeChord1 |8 |5 |8 |12|1 Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, 1UMD, Nimble Charge|None|Bardic Music, Bardic Lore
12th|SublimeChord2 |9 |5 |8 |13|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +1UMD, Up the Hill|Combat Expertise|Song of Arcane Power
13th| Swiftblade4 |10|5 |9 |14|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +1UMD, Twisted Charge|None|Arcane Reflexes, swift surge +1/+10ft
14th| Swiftblade5 |11|5 |9 |14|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +1UMD, Swift Concentration|None|Evasive Celerity, +1 SC CL
15th| Swordsage 1 |11|5 |11|16|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +3UMD, Back on your Feet|Desert Wind Dodge (Dodge at level 1 becomes Deceptive Dodge)|Quick to Act +1, discipline Focus(Weapon Focus: XXX)
16th| Swiftblade6 |12|6 |12|17|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +3UMD, |None|Fortified Hustle, +1 SC CL
17th| Swiftblade7 |13|6 |12|17|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +1UMD, +3UMD,|Bounding Assault| Swift Surge +2/+10ft
18th| Swiftblade8 |14|6 |13|18|+1Intimidate, +1Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +3UMD,|Scorching Sirocco|Diligent Rapidity, +1 SC CL
19th| Swiftblade9 |15|7 |13|18|Never Outnumbered, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +3UMD,|None|Perpetual Options +1 SC CL
20th|Sublime Chord3|15|8 |14|18|+2 Spellcraft, +1Know:arcane, +1concentrate, +3UMD,|None|Class abilities
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Tricks:

Back on your Feet
Nimble Stand
Up the Hill
Nimble Charge
Twisted Charge
Swift Concentration
Never Outnumbered.

Skill Ranks:

Spellcraft 23
Know:Arcana 23
Concentrate 23
UMD 22
Intimidate 8
Survival 3
Listen 13
Spot 12
Tumble 12
Perform 12
Balance 8
Profession:Astrologer 6

Spell Tables

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Spells known (Bard)
{table=head]Level|0lvl|1st|2nd|3rd
1st|4|-|-|-
2nd|5|2|-|-
3rd|6|3|-|-
4th|6|3|2|-
5th|6|4|3|-
6th|6|4|3|-
7th|6|4|4|2
8th|6|4|4|2
9th|6|4|4|3
10th-20th|6|4|4|3
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Spells Known (Sublime Chord)
{table=head]Level|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|9th
11th|3|1|-|-|-
12th|4|2|-|-|-
13th|4|2|-|-|-
14th|4|2|1|-|-
15th|4|2|1|-|-
16th|4|3|2|-|-
17th|4|3|2|-|-
18th|4|3|2|1|-
19th|4|4|3|2|-
20th|4|4|3|2|1[/table]

Spells per day (Bard)
{table=head]Level|0lvl|1st|2nd|3rd
1st|2|-|-|-
2nd|3|0|-|-
3rd|3|1|-|-
4th|3|2|0|-
5th|3|3|1|-
6th|3|3|2|-
7th|3|3|2|0
8th|3|3|2|0
9th|3|3|3|1
10th-20th|3|3|3|2
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Spells per day (Sublime Chord)
{table=head]Level|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|9th
11th|2|1|-|-|-
12th|2|2|-|-|-
13th |2|2|-|-|-
14th|3|2|1|-|-
15th |3|2|1|-|-
16th|3|3|2|-|-
17th |3|3|2|-|-
18th|3|3|2|1|-
19th|4|3|3|2|-
20th|4|4|3|2|1[/table]

Casting and Maneuvers

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Bard Spells.

0
Detect magic
Read Magic
Summon Instrument
Mending
Songbird (SC)
Ghostharp (SC)
1
Improvisation
Phantom Threat
Invisibility, Swift
Silent Image
2
Whirling Blade
Alter self
Glitterdust
Magic Savant
3
Dispel Magic
Haste
Listening Coin

Sublime Chord Spells

4
Celerity
Dimension Door
Greater Invisibility
Mirror Image, Greater
5
Dominate Person
Dragonsight
Hold Monster
Teleport
6
Antimagic Field
Greater Dispel Magic
True Seeing
7
Bite of Werebear
Elemental Body
8
Ghostform

Martial Maneuvers
{table=head]Level|School|Name
2|DW|Fire Riposte
2|DW|Flashing Sun
2|DW|Burning Brand
4|DW|Searing Charge
1|SS|Island of Blades Stance
2|SS|Cloak of Deception
2|SS|Shadow Jaunt
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Backstory:

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Ayce grew up among the nomadic Romani as they were driven from their usual haunts in the prosperous lands of Duke Rastor. While times in the wasteland were not easy, the Romani still found the time for dance and music, particularly as Ayce bardic abilities blossomed in her teens.
By her twentieth year, the Romani found themselves under siege from all sides in their new home which had turned hostile. As each person learned martial abilities, Ayce's casting began an exponential growth as she learned to further enhance her spells. Particularly one spell, Haste.
This continued for several years until the Romani were able to take sanctuary on the lands of a church of Oghma. At peace for the first time in a decade, the Oghmanites went among the Romani learning their stories and spreading their own knowledge, among them.

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Notes:

If using fractional bab, end up with 16.75 bab, instead of 15. While saves are instead 8.833 Fort, 15.33 Ref, and 22 Will
Dodge is used as a prereq for mobility. When gaining Desert Wind Dodge, text for the feat states that I can lose the feat dodge, and replace it with another feat for which I meet the prereqs. So Dodge becomes Deceptive Dodge (from Dragon Compendium, which 1/round allows me to redirect a missed attack to a target of my choice who is in reach of my attacker. Only works on my dodge target, and only while fighting defensively.
- I don't need to swap it for another Dodge type feat, but for a character built to move around in combat, I figure redirecting my enemies attacks back to them will help.
- Never outnumbered helps with that too, a lone warrior isn't too scary, but not only is she able to intimidate everyone, those still fight find themselves hitting their allies by accident.
- Between her dodge bonuses, and her miss chances, that should be pretty frequent.
I know the build looks sort of MAD, but I wanted to try a character that didn't have a two stats 16 or higher, particularly in their casting stat.
- Dex could be dropped to favor Str and/or Cha since I don't have weapon finesse.
Could, perhaps should, reduce ranks in UMD to boost Intimidate to help with her 'Never Outnumbered.' But I've always felt that UMD was a very rogue/bard-type skill, in addition to being quite useful/powerful. Particularly when compared with feinting and intimidating in combat with D20 rules.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)

A ~~sublime~~ barbaric dancer.

Originally Posted by Firefly

Firefly

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The Deadly Dancer twirled her scimitars through a pair of orcish necks, felling both adversaries. Despite her fatigue from the battle, more of the horde advanced. It seemed there would be no end to the defense of the great city. She may very well fall in battle this day. The Deadly Dancer would not accept her fate quietly, though. She still had the strength to fight, and reinforcements were on the way.

She blazed through another squad of the enemy military, blades twirling and ripping, but with a few of the orcish battleaxes catching her skin in nonvital areas. Cursing the evil gods under her breath, she knelt down and wrapped the wounds in bandages, then drank a potion of endurance.

Another squadron called for a proper dance. She whirled and dashed along their front line, cutting down most of them, then doubled back and cut open the rest. The dance continued. She advanced to another raging line of brutes approaching from more to the north. Panting, she struck out, dancing along the line, scimitars shining and catching the red light reflected from blood--

Her blade caught against another, and she reflexively pulled it back. So did the opposite foe, which the Deadly Dancer now recognized as an ally, percieving the wake of bodies on the other side of the line. Their paths crossed in the exact center of the line of expired orcs, their weapons meeting in the clang. The ally's enchanting, fey appreance mingled with an incongrous order to her movement. A balance of law and chaos in one being, one being with lovely insect wings and bright violet bob-cut hair. Perhaps that mixture would explain the draw towards dance. Angular eyes surveyed the Deadly Dancer. The ally refused to land from her flight, but did smile. The Deadly Dancer turned her blade towards the the rest of the approacing army, and the ally did in turn, sparing but a wink of acknowledgement.

Together, they danced in combat. This ally, the Firefly, had her sparse differences, but the two fought as one. The Deadly Dancer used curving motions and two scimitars to attack many orcs. The Firefly preferred flying in straight lines, but could strike many more with a singular blade. When thier dances ended, they began anew. They battled together in harmony, loose-fitting copies of one another, as the cracks in a beutiful mirror reflection.

Finally, both near to collapsing, the battle ended. With other reinforcements holding the line at the gates, the Deadly Dancer and the Firefly had cleared much of the army outside. After the five delightful dances, they approached each other. They clicked their scimitars together once again, a show of fire-forged friendship.

Together, two dervishes returned home to be healed of their battle wounds.

Basics

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Firefly is a True Neutral Half-Fey Lesser Zenythri Barbarian 17/Exemplar 1.

Point buy: STR 16, DEX 14, CON 16, INT 14, WIS 8, CHA 8

After racial modifiers: STR 18 (level-up pluses go here), DEX 18, CON 14, INT 14, WIS 12, CHA 10

Build

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FIREFLY
{table=head]Level|Class|Base Attack Bonus|Fort Save|Ref Save|Will Save|Skills|Feats|Class Features

1st|Level Adjustment|

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--

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2nd|Level Adjustment|

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--

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--

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--

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3rd|Barbarian|

+1

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+2

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+0

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+0

+2

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+3

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+0

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+0

|Craft (Weaponsmithing), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Uncanny Dodge

5th|Barbarian|

+3

|

+3

|

+1

|

+1

+4

|

+4

|

+1

|

+1

|Craft (Weaponsmithing), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Ferocity 2/day

7th|Barbarian|

+5

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+4

|

+1

|

+1

|Craft (Weaponsmithing), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Improved Uncanny Dodge

8th|Barbarian|

+6/+1

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+5

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+2

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+2

+7/+2

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+5

|

+2

|

+2

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||DR 1/--

10th|Barbarian|

+8/+3

|

+6

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+2

|

+2

|Diplomacy (CC),Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Ferocity 3/day

11th|Barbarian|

+9/+4

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+6

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+3

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+3

+10/+5

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+7

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+3

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+3

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||DR 2/--

13th|Barbarian|

+11/+6/+1

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+7

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+3

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+3

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Greater Ferocity

14th|Barbarian|

+12/+7/+2

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+8

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+4

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+4

+13/+8/+3

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+8

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+4

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+4

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||DR 3/--

16th|Barbarian|

+14/+9/+4

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+9

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+4

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+4

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Shifting Stance

17th|Barbarian|

+15/+10/+5

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+9

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+5

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+5

+16/+11/+6/+1

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+10

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+5

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+5

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||DR 4/--, Ferocity 5/day

19th|Barbarian|

+17/+12/+7/+2

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+10

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+5

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+5

|Diplomacy (CC), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance) (CC), Handle Animal||Relentless Ferocity

20th|Exemplar|

+17/+12/+7/+2

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+10

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+5

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+7

|Diplomacy (x5), Tumble, Survival, Listen, Perform (Dance), Handle Animal|Robilar's Gambit|Skill Artistry, Skill Mastery[/table]

Explanation

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Level 5: It's all Barbarian, all the time! ACF list is in order: Skilled City Dweller, Ferocity, and Trapkiller.

Due to level adjustment, you will start the game being rather fragile. Make good use of your fly speed and Flyby Attack to avoid dying to everything. But by the time the party is level 5, you should have enough health from those d12s to do something.

Even at level 5, you can act like a Dervish by using Ferocity and then Great Flyby Attack, hitting everyone next to your path. With your Dexterity improved by Ferocity, Great Flyby Attack should let you hit everyone in your way. Do it with a scimitar, of course.

This isn't all you can do, though. Trapkiller lets you find traps for the party. You get a +2 bonus to the nerfed Survival check for being a Zenythri, luckily.

Level 10: Power Attack needs no introduction, but you'll be using it by two-handing a scimitar. This build is pretty straightforward, and has nothing new.

Level 15: Burning Brand is for additional reach when the enemies won't stay in a line for you, and Combat Reflexes is nice with your high Dexterity. Also of note is that your Ferocity is now Greater Ferocity. Combat Reflexes is honestly mostly for...

Level 20: Robilar's Gambit. Needs no introduction. We also have a random level of Exemplar at the end of Barbarian, which masters Perform (Dance), Jump, and Tumble, with Skill Artistry going to Tumble. See below.

I'm not really sure this section is necessary; the build is really simple.

Imitation of the Secret Ingredient

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AC Bonus: Ferocity, Shifting Stance, and Greater Ferocity actually team up to +4 AC instead of +3.
Dervish Dance: Imitated by entering Ferocity and then using Great Flyby Attack over and over. THis allows Firefly to hit everyone in a rough line; rougher if she uses her Burning Blade for the encounter. Like a dervish, she ends up with exactly 5 uses of the dance. The to-hit and damage increase doe not quite get to +5, but the strength bonus from Ferocity provides up to +3. Firefly also cannot do so in armor heavier than light or lose access to her fly speed, cannot concentrate, and gets debuffed at the end of it all--sickened, specifically, but that's close. Moving in a straight line means that Firefly cannot turn around in the same way that a Dervish can, but extended reach with Burning Blade can get hard-to-reach enemies.
Slashing Blades: As a fey with Craft (Weaponsmithing), Firefly can make a feycraft scimitar. Ta-da, now it's basically a light weapon. We don't care, but it counts. We can still two-hand the thing for Power Attack, though, since the lightness applies to Weapon Finesse only.
Movement Mastery: Exemplar's Skill Mastery.
Fast Movement: Barbarian Fast Movement. It doesn't get to +15', until you realize that Firefly's fly speed is double land speed, so that's effectively +20'. This is limited by load and armor as well, if not the exact limits.
Spring Attack: This is Flyby Attack.
Dance of Death: Attacking more people during a dance? Firefly can hit up to 7 within her reach, and this is before Gloves of Dexterity. She always "cleaves". If you insist on the actual Cleave feat, get a Sylvan Scimitar.
Improved Reaction: Ferocity as an immediate action; get a +3.
Elaborate Parry: C'mon, I can't do everything. This bonus is pretty unique, actually.
Tireless Dance: Relentless Ferocity.
A Thousand Cuts: This is what a Belt of Battle does, basically. Grab an extra full-round action once a day, then strafe-attack twice.

Sources

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Fiend Folio: Half-Fey
Monster Manual II: Zenythri
Player's Guide to Faerun: Lesser Planetouched
Player's Handbook II: Robilar's Gambit
Savage Species: Great Flyby Attack
Cityscape: Skilled City Dweller and Ferocity
Complete Adventurer: Exemplar
Magic Item Compendium: Belt of Battle

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)

A sage of the dance.

Originally Posted by Tabitha

Tabitha

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CN female human Battle Dancer 5/Binder 3/Swordsage 12
Str 12, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 15
+1 Dex at level 4, +1 Cha at level 8, rest go to Dex

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{table=head]Level|Class|BAB|Fort|Ref|Will|Skills|Feats|Class Features

1st|Battle Dancer 1|

+1

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+0

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+2

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+0

| Balance 4, Hide 2, Move Silently 2, Jump 4, Listen 4, Perform (dance) 4, Tumble 4|Expeditious Dodge, Mobility, Improved Unarmed Strike (B)|AC bonus (Cha to AC)

2nd|Battle Dancer 2|

+2

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+0

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+3

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+0

| Balance +1, Hide + 1, Jump +1, Move Silently + 1, Tumble +1| |dance of reckless bravery (+4 vs fear effects for her and allies)

3rd|Battle Dancer 3|

+3

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+1

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+3

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+1

+4

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+1

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+4

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+1

+5

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+1

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+4

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+1

+5

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+3

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+4

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+3

+6

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+4

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+4

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+4

+7

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+4

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+5

|

+4

+7

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+4

|

+7

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+6

| Balance +1, Concentration +1, Hide +1, Jump +1, Move Silently +1, Sense Motive +1, Tumble +1|Improved Binding, Weapon Focus (B)|quick to act +1, discipline focus

10th|Swordsage 2|

+8

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+4

|

+8

|

+7

| Balance +1, Concentration +1, Hide +1, Jump +1, Move Silently +1, Sense Motive +1, Tumble +1| |AC bonus (Wis to AC)

11th|Swordsage 3|

+9

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+5

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+8

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+7

+10

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+5

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+9

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+8

+10

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+5

|

+9

|

+8

| Balance +1, Concentration +1, Hide +1, Jump +1, Move Silently +1, Sense Motive +1, Tumble +1| |quick to act +2

14th|Swordsage 6|

+11

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+6

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+10

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+9

+12

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+6

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+10

|

+9

+13

|

+6

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+11

|

+10

| Balance +1, Concentration +1, Hide +1, Jump +1, Move Silently +1, Sense Motive +1, Tumble +1| |discipline focus (defensive stance)

17th|Swordsage 9|

+13

|

+7

|

+11

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+10

+14

|

+7

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+12

|

+11

+15

|

+7

|

+12

|

+11

+16

|

+8

|

+13

|

+12

| Balance +1, Concentration +1, Hide +1, Jump +1, Move Silently +1, Sense Motive +1, Tumble +1| |discipline focus (insightful strike)[/table]

Maneuvers and Stances
{table=head]Level|Known|Readied|Stances

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3rd|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

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5th|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

6th|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

7th|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

8th|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

9th|6|4|1|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

10th|7|4|2|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

11th|8|5|2|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

12th|9|5|2|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

13th|10|6|3|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

14th|11|6|3|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

15th|12|6|3|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

16th|13|7|3|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

17th|14|7|4|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

18th|15|8|4|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

19th|16|8|4|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

20th|17|8|4|-|-|-|-|-|-|-[/table]

Design Notes

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Tabitha starts as a standard Battle Dancer. She has unarmed strikes, a bonus to Armor Class from Charisma and dancing abilities that can help her allies against fear and by 5th level she can Tumble at her full movement speed at her normal movement rate.

Tabitha next enters the Binder class with the ultimate goal of being able to bind Paimon. She can bind vestiges as she needs early on in her Binder career. Once Tabitha gains 9th level and gains the Improved Binding feat she binds Paimon exclusively. Though all of Paimon’s Granted Abilities are excellent for Tabitha, the ones that are of particular interest are the Dance of Death (another dance style that mimics the Dervish), Paimon’s Blades (Weapon Finesse with rapiers and short swords), Paimon’s Dexterity (+4 untyped bonus to Dex [yes, thank you]), and Paimon’s Skills (+4 untyped bonus to Tumble and Perform [dance]).

Tabitha ends her pre epic career by going the rest of the way in Swordsage with a starting initiator level of 5 thanks to her previous careers. She also gains a bonus to her Armor Class based on her Wisdom bonus as well as more bonuses to initiative. Her maneuver and stance choices will help her continue her development of newer and more deadly dance styles. Desert Wind would be flavorful considering the real life inspiration of the Dervish class. Diamond Mind has to be considered by any Swordsage. By 19th level she hits 8th level maneuvers.

Source List

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Cityscape -- Swift Tumbler feat
Dragon Compendium -- Battle Dancer
Miniatures Handbook -- Sidestep feat
Player's Handbook II -- Combat Acrobat feat
Races of the Wild -- Expeditious Dodge feat
Tome of Battle -- Swordsage, maneuvers, stances, Adaptive Style feat
Tome of Magic -- Binder, Improved Binding feat

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)

Those are all four. Begin discussion, but preferably without revealing your own entry. Allez judges!

**Callin** · 2013-05-11, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)

Who are the judges?

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-11, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Callin

Who are the judges?

That remains to be seen. Would you like to offer your services, perhaps?

**Callin** · 2013-05-11, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)

Sure Will. If I can get the particulars of what im judging.

**mattie_p** · 2013-05-12, 09:17 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Callin

Sure Will. If I can get the particulars of what im judging.

Well, Dervish is in Complete Warrior. If you have access to that, you can judge. The "Use of Secret Ingredient" component is comparing the class features the various entries have cobbled together, and seeing what they have obtained and what was missed. The rest of it is basically the same judging Iron Chef gets.

**Snowbluff** · 2013-05-12, 11:14 AM (ISO 8601)

I am very interested to see how this turned out.

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