Quote Originally Posted by LeSwordfish View Post
If a Redemptor has re-rolls of ones, +1 AP, and keeps its BS when moving with its plasma gun, and doesn't deteriorate until its at like three wounds, does that make it any good?
So you're changing a Macro Plasma to -5...Why? If you're talking about changing the Heavy Onslaught to AP-2, we're getting somewhere.
Losing BS whilst moving is one of the signature failings of Dreadnoughts. So, if you didn't have that, that's...Good.

But, you've still got the problem that even the cheapest Redemptor is over 150 Points, whilst the Invictor Warsuit costs ~20 Points less, and somehow has Concealed Positions. If you're talking about Primaris Marines and Plasma, and you aren't referring to Hellblasters, you might be making a misplay. That being said, I've always wanted to do this, which is even better with the 8.5 Codex reducing points.

SHAD
Roboute Guilliman - 320 Points

Battalion #1
Techmarine; Boltgun, Flamer, Plasma Cutter, Chainsword, Servo-Arms (x2) - 56 Points
Techmarine; Boltgun, Flamer, Plasma Cutter, Chainsword, Servo-Arms (x2) - 56 Points

Servitors (x4); Plasma Cannons (x2) - 52 Points
Dreadnought; Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon - 120 Points
Venerable Dreadnought; Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon - 140 Points
Venerable Dreadnought; Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon - 140 Points
Venerable Dreadnought; Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon - 140 Points

Battalion #2
Techmarine; Boltgun, Flamer, Plasma Cutter, Chainsword, Servo-Arms (x2) - 56 Points
Techmarine; Boltgun, Flamer, Plasma Cutter, Chainsword, Servo-Arms (x2) - 56 Points

Ironclad Dreadnought; Hunter-Killer Missiles (x2), Meltagun, Storm Bolter, Seismic Hammer, Ironclad Assault Launchers - 133 Points
Ironclad Dreadnought; Hunter-Killer Missiles (x2), Meltagun, Storm Bolter, Seismic Hammer, Ironclad Assault Launchers - 133 Points
Ironclad Dreadnought; Hunter-Killer Missiles (x2), Meltagun, Storm Bolter, Seismic Hammer, Ironclad Assault Launchers - 133 Points
Redemptor Dreadnought; Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Storm Bolters (x2) - 155 Points
Redemptor Dreadnought; Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Storm Bolters (x2) - 155 Points
Redemptor Dreadnought; Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Storm Bolters (x2) - 155 Points

Total: 2000 Points