Erfworld 145 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 132

[Arkaim]

How long has this been up?

[Maxymiuk]

Judging by the fact that the forums just got struck with paralysis... 5 minutes ago?

Before all the rampant speculation starts, let it be stated for the record that although I expected Bogroll to die, it still felt like a kick in the gut to have it confirmed.

Excellent work, Rob and Jamie.

[evil_d4_swarm]

Aww... Bogroll died...

Although I'm glad that Ansom died, too.

[derfy]

Just popped up on RSS for me.

And yes, this is booping awesome. I can imagine Parson semi-growling the last words.

[keeganknorr]

Set up completely but not predictable, this is why i love this comic.

[Hatu]

Well, this was everything I was hoping Ansom's defeat would not be: contrived, abrupt and utterly unsatisfying.

Very disappointing.

-H

[Graymayre]

Wow, I honestly didn't expect Ansom to actually die. I did notice that the Twoll had to be burned. Is that one of the few ways to halt regeneration in the world? Can acid be used? What else can stop it?

I also didn't realize the extent at which GK was rigged to collapse. I expected the worst would be Ansom's coalition lying on a pile of rubble...

[afroakuma]

I won't believe Ansom died so easily. That looks like a backdoor to me.

Surprising page, though. Wonder how Stanley's going to like the wreck of his city?

Knew Bogroll would die... very unfortunate.

[Grunthos]

Somehow, I don't think Stanley is going to be very understanding when he gets back. Although the successful croaking of Ansom should mollify him enough for Parson to survive.

[Oracle_Hunter]

I also didn't realize the extent at which GK was rigged to collapse. I expected the worst would be Ansom's coalition lying on a pile of rubble...

That sir, was one massive Chekov's Gun!

I, too, was shocked to find Ansom and Bogroll dead. Well done! Too bad Sizemore couldn't grab the Pliers though.

EDIT: Hey, Red Warlord survived the 4Chan! More surprises!

[Shoemaker]

Well, this was everything I was hoping Ansom's defeat would not be: contrived, abrupt and utterly unsatisfying.

Very disappointing.

-H

I'm sorry if I'm mistaken, but weren't you also crying foul when Ansom was repeatedly saved by the Archons?

That was really the only other possibility here. He either falls to the ground or the Archons swoop in and save him.

What outcome would you have preferred?

[slayerx]

Wow, that was seriously unexpected... i mean, i don't think anyone would have foresaw Ansom croaking right there. I'm sure most people were only expecting Ansom to be injured, while Sizemore pops from the ground and claiming the pliers.

though i can admit their is something a bit lost with such a quick and unexpected croak... you never really get to feel ansom's defeat. I mean he only had 2 seconds to acknowledge that he was outplayed before croaking... it would be a bit more satisfiying if he was able to have enough time to really soak in his failure, before making a mad charge and croaking...

its a bit of a double egde sword... on the one had it's very unexpected but acceptable turn of events; but on the other hand, the speed of the death makes it feel a bit lacking... might have been better for a secondary character, but Ansom is a bit too important...

though with Ansom dead, and now massive losses, it seems like the coalition's moral is broken


RIP Bogroll

[Calmness]

Bah, i liked Ansom.

[surtt]

Wow that was abrupt.

[reignofevil]

So basically, People boop about ansom not being dead, and now they are about him BEING dead in a heavily forshadowed way that we all pretty much expected...
And its a backdoor?

[JT Jag]

No way is Ansom actually dead.

[glenstorm74]

Ansom's defeat was unsatisfying...

I feel sorry for Bogroll. I had hope...

Sizemore seems overpowered...

Where are the Archons?

[The Glyphstone]

I think it's not because Ansom is dead per say, but because he died "off-screen'. this is something everyone has been anticipating for a very, very long time, and suddenly it's there and gone without even being seen.

[Sieggy]

Well, this was everything I was hoping Ansom's defeat would not be: contrived, abrupt and utterly unsatisfying.

Very disappointing.

-H

I dunno, works for me. If the RCC hadn't killed Bogroll while he was down, I don't think Parson would have brought down the house. At least Bogroll has been avenged . . . that's the 'ruthlessness' kicking in. I suspect Sizemore will be sent to recover the Arkenpliers, and then Parson & company will be off to the Magic Kingdom. Charley can pick over the rubble, and be Lord of the Ruins . . .

It'll be amusing if the Archons are still there when Stanley arrives . . . and he thinks Charley did it, and that Parson et al are dead . . . I mean, it's not like Stanley will listen to reason, much less from Charley . . .

[surtt]

So basically, People boop about ansom not being dead, and now they are about him BEING dead in a heavily forshadowed way that we all pretty much expected...
And its a backdoor?

I am sitting here in shock and disbelief.
Thinking Amson somhow is still alive.
Same as I would if someone really died.


I am not complaining.
It was masterfully done.

[DCR]

Ansom, weakened by Wanda's uber witchslap into falling damage and hordes of undead, perhaps a direct damage spell from a scroll or twelve, takes... um, 9.81 m/s^2 + Bogroll... 487d6 falling damage (cookie for reference catch) without his helmet this time (credit for pointing that out to lamech) and is croaked. Persons seeing this as contrived/backdoor... I disagree. Politely, respectfully - but totally uncompromisingly as well.

The warlord is dead. Long live the warlord.

RIP Bogroll.

[Spanishmonk3y]

Holy Boop.

I mean wow, I was really expecting something longer and drawn out with Ansom's fall and the repercussions. But I'm really happy with this page since it just drove home the impact of Bogrolls sacrifice.

Yes there is still a chance of Ansom popping up somehow but due to this presentation I feel like this was meant to show us they weren't pulling plot punches.

Ansom's dead.
His army is probably deader.
But Parson has some 'splainin to do to the tool once he is back.

Great page imo

[Lamech]

Hey, Red Warlord survived the 4Chan! More surprises!

Err... she was never in the 4-chan blast, so I'm not sure if that counts as survived.

And didn't Ansom survive his last fall? Although he did lose a helment apperantly. I wonder what Erfworld's main motif is... maybe it has something to do with small details.

And I actually wanted Ansom to die in an abrupt manner. Like smacked down by Wanda, hit by air defenses, or blasted by the thinkamancer. I think this was a very good way for him to go.

[slayerx]

Sizemore seems overpowered...

Well he's a masterclass dirtomancer...
a Masterclass croakamancer can uncroak 1000's of units in a single turn
a masterclass foolamancer can veil an entire city
There is precedence that masterclass mancers are very powerful

Not to mention that the move Sizemore used came at the cost of an entire city
he can't really pull off this kind of stuff out in the field, and using the moves within your own city requires you to be willing to destory your own processions

Where are the Archons?

flying above giving Charlia a good show and probably waiting to clean up
though it is possible that some were crocked by the falling tower

And didn't Ansom survive his last fall? Although he did lose a helment apperantly. I wonder what Erfworld's main motif is... maybe it has something to do with small details.

Well there's the helmet, the idea that Ansom was much higher up this time, the weight of a twoll falling on top of him with his arms over his neck, AND Bogroll possibly getting a few hits

[Oslecamo]

That sir, was one massive Chekov's Gun!

I, too, was shocked to find Ansom and Bogroll dead. Well done! Too bad Sizemore couldn't grab the Pliers though.

Were you really suprised? Bogroll fell on the middle of the coalition forces. After having cracked their leader's skull after a fake surrender. His only true hope would be Sizemore poping out, but alas, Bogroll isn't a mancer. He's a lackey, and altough very loyal, also very expendable. As a garrison unit, Hamster logistic side knew he would be no good once the city was abandoned. And no good risking Sizemore in a rescue atempt. Twolls must be much easier to come by than dirtmancers.

As for Ansom also being dead, well, I believe the game has a HP mechanic. Ansom had already fought a lot that day, draining that HP to shrug the blows from all the undeads and Wanda. His HP should be on his last digits. This allowed Bogroll, as a heavy, to score those final points and bring him down. Hamster had the mathmancy artifact. He would surely send someone who had a good chance of taking out Ansom for good.


Goodbye Bogroll. You were the best Lackey an evil overlord could have asked for, serving even in death.

What caught me by suprise was the city colapsing. Brilliant, and the dots were all there, but I couldn't connect them. Lure the coalition inside and then bring the whole thing down on them.

And so ends the battle for Gobwin Knob. What will follow now? My bet is, Stanley returns, sees most of his army is still alive and kicking, and decides to go in one last quest to get all the tools, with Hamster as his chief warlord. After some discussions of course, but Stanley isn't really in a position to abandon any more troops.

[Gez]

I suppose Ansom's death would have been more satisfying like this; but then people would have complained about a whole page being "wasted" for that...

[Tubercular Ox]

So. Ansom, Bogroll. Fine.

What about Sizemore? Maybe page 78 is Chekov's gun, but did he really just collapse all the tunnels with one huge honking spell? Who knew he had it in him? S'bit of a revelation to me. Wow. Go Sizemore.

[dragonseth]

I was really hoping Bogroll would live. I loved him as a character, and I'd love to see what he can do with some more levels.
On the topic of Ansom, I'm glad he finally died, but I was hoping for it to be a little more dramatic. Like, an internal monologue as he's falling, or something to that effect.

[reignofevil]

I was really hoping Bogroll would live. I loved him as a character, and I'd love to see what he can do with some more levels.
On the topic of Ansom, I'm glad he finally died, but I was hoping for it to be a little more dramatic. Like, an internal monologue as he's falling, or something to that effect.

I never got that strawberry ca-

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Well you meant ansom, but still

[Closet_Skeleton]

Did the main villain just die offscreen?