Base Class Challenge Chat Thread II

[bobthe6th]

ehe... with all the movment stuff up now(my razor, speedster, ect...) speed is a bit played out.

so, how about bears? has to be bear related, or involve bears?

[Owrtho]

ehe... with all the movment stuff up now(my razor, speedster, ect...) speed is a bit played out.

I'll point out my suggestion was movement in general rather than speed. Speed is just a small facet, given that it could also involve things like teleportation, terrain manipulation (given that things like walls effect movement), mind control (controlling the moves of others), astrology (reading the movements of the starts), telekinesis (moving objects with your mind), standing your ground (focusing on a lack of movement), etc.

Owrtho

[bobthe6th]

bears, just saying... bears

[Derjuin]

Has their been a Psionics-focused theme yet? Or was that covered by the "Power of the Mind" challenge?

I'd almost cast my vote for a Minion-based one, if there hadn't been two in this competition. How about one based on Nature, or maybe Video Game/Movie/Music-inspired?

[Silva Stormrage]

Has their been a Psionics-focused theme yet? Or was that covered by the "Power of the Mind" challenge?

I'd almost cast my vote for a Minion-based one, if there hadn't been two in this competition. How about one based on Nature, or maybe Video Game/Movie/Music-inspired?

Video game might be a tad broad, I think you could do anything with that one.

[ArkenBrony]

What about..... BEARS!!!!

[Owrtho]

What about..... BEARS!!!!

Bears.

Owrtho

[bobthe6th]

so bears has been seconded....

[Pyromancer999]

Oh I was talking with Demidos and he had a really good idea, a contest focusing on always being prepared or having a swiss army knife of options. Seems you could do a lot with that.

Seems interesting. Seconded, although in my experience, that usually means aiming for a Jack-Of-All-Trades sort of character.

[Morph Bark]

Every time I see Jack-of-All-Trades types mentioned in contests I pity myself for not having saved up the Dabblemaster for such an occassion.

Movement sounds like a fun one to me, considering the possibilities of the theme.

[Pyromancer999]

Movement sounds like a fun one to me, considering the possibilities of the theme.

If this is done, I call making the Flash. Kidding. The rights to that go to whoever makes it fastest. Get it? Fastest.

Legit idea for a theme has occurred to me: Racial Progression classes.

Not like "Hi, I'm an ogre, I progress through my monster class", but more of a 20th level racial class for LA +0 or +1 races. Because maybe a dwarf doesn't feel like being a fighter or a cleric or a warblade, and just wants to spend out his 20 levels exploring his identity and innate power as a dwarf. I personally think it'd be cool to be a 20th level tiefling or Aasimar, but again, just an idea.

[bobthe6th]

Could just refluff the (utillaty class from the dungenomicon...) and claim it is a human class...

Would almost want to do a half-orc base class

[EdroGrimshell]

What about a contest based on crafting? Not just magic crafting, pure skill-based crafting or shaping the soul into various items would be suitable, even a MacGuyver type is a good example as well. Even improving on existing crafts would be a good option if you ask me.

[bobthe6th]

What about a contest based on crafting? Not just magic crafting, pure skill-based crafting or shaping the soul into various items would be suitable, even a MacGuyver type is a good example as well. Even improving on existing crafts would be a good option if you ask me.

A crafter based class contest that focused on each entry making items/things for cheap would be interesting though.

This would be interesting. Still, variety for this might be hard to come by. Might be worth a shot, though.

VoP+soulknife=profit? all classes that make there own stuff, or use cheap/free stuff?
so a club master
a jedi
a force mage
ect...

what about that!

and thus I point out a consensus of four...

[Pyromancer999]

What about a contest based on crafting? Not just magic crafting, pure skill-based crafting or shaping the soul into various items would be suitable, even a MacGuyver type is a good example as well. Even improving on existing crafts would be a good option if you ask me.

What's a MacGuyver?

[EdroGrimshell]

What's a MacGuyver?

Is that a joke? I've never met anyone that doesn't know who MacGyver is.

It pretty much means throw stuff together to make something that's jury-rigged and have it work. Pulling a MacGyver is actually a Trope if you want to take a look

[Pyromancer999]

Is that a joke? I've never met anyone that doesn't know who MacGyver is.

Sorry for never hearing of the show. Still, yeah, didn't know about him before.

It pretty much means throw stuff together to make something that's jury-rigged and have it work. Pulling a MacGyver is actually a Trope if you want to take a look

I see.

[ArkenBrony]

A MacGyver class challenge you say, now that is something I would be interested in, I fifth the crafter class

[sengmeng]

Could I get a PEACH or two? I already don't like my own Disciple of the Elements, but I'm interested in whether anyone dislikes it for the same reasons.

[Silva Stormrage]

Lol, Morphbark I like your new sig

[Pyromancer999]

Could I get a PEACH or two? I already don't like my own Disciple of the Elements, but I'm interested in whether anyone dislikes it for the same reasons.

Just in case you didn't remember, you can't edit a class during voting.

However, if this is for revision after the contest ends:

Essentially, the class grants protection against elemental types, and not much else. For the other stuff, not many people are willing to spend a move action at higher levels to add only one or two dice to an attack. Also, blindsight and a dog companion are nice, but they don't really make sense. Also, if going up against someone who doesn't deal energy damage, a Disciple of the Elements is pretty much left high and dry.

My suggestions:

• Branch out abilities more. Maybe grant a bonus to AC somehow or summon elementals, maybe
• Allow option for Force damage if you're going to restrict it to energy types
• Don't be afraid to just let them add 1/2 their level in d6 to all attacks of all energy types, for Elemental Stance, if you still want them to charge attacks, just let them spend the move action to add even more damage.
• That's really it

[Lizard Lord]

Am I the only one that wouldn't mind seeing a challenge based on tropes?

[Silva Stormrage]

Am I the only one that wouldn't mind seeing a challenge based on tropes, or did I just make a bunch of playgrounders angry with the suggestion?

I think it has a bit of a problem of being waaaaaayyyy too broad. I am not one of the people that are are "TROPES ARE BAD!!!" the worse thing about tvtropes is it eats up my time >.>. But ya, there is a trope for almost any character concept. It would basically be a "Develop any class and then find a trope for it"

[Temotei]

Am I the only one that wouldn't mind seeing a challenge based on tropes?

I think it has a bit of a problem of being waaaaaayyyy too broad. I am not one of the people that are are "TROPES ARE BAD!!!" the worse thing about tvtropes is it eats up my time >.>. But ya, there is a trope for almost any character concept. It would basically be a "Develop any class and then find a trope for it"

What Silva said. There could be a contest based on making a new trope that fits the class, however. It'd be really hard to do that, though.

[Morph Bark]

Lol, Morphbark I like your new sig

All is fair in love and war.

Seriously though, I forgot to do that when the voting thread first came up, like I've often done before. I tend to encourage my friends to look at the contests too and vote if they like. I never tell them to just vote for me. It's actually occurred multiple times that they voted against me.


Also, instead of tropes, we could pick the nigh-all-encompassing trope of Genre Savvy?

Personally though, I'm not feeling that theme.

[Pyromancer999]

All is fair in love and war.

You know they say it is, but then rag on you when it happens. Worst. Water gun. Fight. Ever.

Also, instead of tropes, we could pick the nigh-all-encompassing trope of Genre Savvy?

Like a Horror theme?

[Temotei]

All is fair in love and war.

We could have a theme based on this, or perhaps idioms in general.

[JoshuaZ]

We could have a theme based on this, or perhaps idioms in general.

I'd strongly support a contest with classes based on idioms. I don't normally enter the base class contests, but this suggestions leads immediately to a few ideas.

[sengmeng]

Just in case you didn't remember, you can't edit a class during voting.

However, if this is for revision after the contest ends:

Essentially, the class grants protection against elemental types, and not much else. For the other stuff, not many people are willing to spend a move action at higher levels to add only one or two dice to an attack. Also, blindsight and a dog companion are nice, but they don't really make sense. Also, if going up against someone who doesn't deal energy damage, a Disciple of the Elements is pretty much left high and dry.

My suggestions:

• Branch out abilities more. Maybe grant a bonus to AC somehow or summon elementals, maybe
• Allow option for Force damage if you're going to restrict it to energy types
• Don't be afraid to just let them add 1/2 their level in d6 to all attacks of all energy types, for Elemental Stance, if you still want them to charge attacks, just let them spend the move action to add even more damage.
• That's really it

Thanks, that's kind of what I thought too. I definitely rushed this one and didn't even remember weapon proficiencies (it was supposed to have simple and martial weapons). It was supposed to be an archer originally (so move action to add to damage wouldn't hurt) but then I decided to allow for unarmed, melee, or ranged damage to give options and differentiate it from the arcane archer. Oh well, looking forward to the next challenge.

[Morph Bark]

We could have a theme based on this, or perhaps idioms in general.

I love how you pick up on things like this quickly.