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Thread: OOTS WBL Estimates
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2011-08-30, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS WBL Estimates
The question? What party members are reasonably near their WBL? We can only guess the level of individual party members within a level or two, (some more,) but on average I think if each person is within 150K-200K they are pretty close. (Note, what things are worth are what matters in WBL, not necessarily what was payed for it.)
I know other threads discuss these things- but I would like a place to discuss this singularly. Also, I am curious and haven't read through the comic in a while so I know I will have missed quite a few. As far as I know, a thread hasn't done this since new magic items have been introduced. And the gods know the good folks at GitP are great at rehashing!
Here is what I've got.
Belkar's Ring of Jumping +20: 40K
Durkon's Amulet of Natural Armor: ?
Elan's Belt of Charisma, (Probably +2): 4K-6K
Elan's Belt of Gender Changing: ?
Elan's Boots of Elvenkind: 2.5K
Haley's Crystal's (I think I remember +4?) Dagger: 32K
Haley's Bag of Holding: (Tough to say which ones were destroyed/what level they are. She has 1-8 I believe, levels I-IV. Theoretically? 2.5K-80K)
Haley's +3 Icy Burst Bow: 50K
Haley's Leather Armor: 16-20K
V's Ring of Wizardry: 20K-100K
Roy's Bag of Tricks: (Strange because it is an amalgam of all bag or tricks... 3K?)
Roy's Belt of Giant Strength: (Assuming an even Str. adj., the minimum Str. to give Mr. Scruffy a positive Str. mod would be +8. I am thinking +10, but who knows? The caravan would have to have been pretty careless not to have a belt identified worth a milliong gold. 36K+)
Roy's Sword: ?
What did I miss or did you guys disagree with anything?Last edited by SowZ; 2011-08-30 at 06:26 PM.
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2011-08-31, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Ehhh, can't grab values at work. (yet I can post on forums, how odd)
But Elan's rapier, Belkar's daggers are +3 but I can't remember where that was said. Belt of gender changing? :P
I think that covers the explicitly mentioned items, but what about the implicit ones? Durkon's plate, shield and hammer? Roy's armour can't be that bad either.
Then we have the sundry items...In the pile that came out of Haley's bag alone I can see 4 quivers, 4 potions and 5 gems. Not counting the immense stack of gold.
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2011-08-31, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Nothing to see here, move along.
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2011-08-31, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Julio Scoundrel gives Elan his +3 Keen Rapier just before he jumps off the Mechane to fight Nale. A +3 Keen Rapier is worth 32,320gp. Dunno where Belkars' daggers' enhancement bonus is given.
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2011-08-31, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Haley also has some magical defensive jewelery she got from Crystal.
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2011-08-31, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Haley's bow is +5.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0615.html
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2011-08-31, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Actually haley's bow is +5 Icy burst (which would be +7...)
Haley also has a lot of money and stuff more than the others...
Anyway we can assume:
Roy: Magic armor and Sword(+5), Belt of giant strenght (+6), bag of tricks.
Belkar: assumedly magic armor and knives (i think they're at least Returning) and ring of jump
Durkon: Magic hammer, armor, shield, amulet of nat.armor
Elan: no armor, keen +3 rapier, HIS OTHER RAPIER, Belt of Cha(+2), boots of elvenkind
V: Headband of intellect (+6 i think) Ring of Wizardry (at least 3, because of Suggestion), robe is nonmagical(Blackwing sees through it with True Seeing)
Haley: +5 Icy burst bow, magic armor, +4 dagger, 7 Bags of holding (or 8).
All of them are supposed to own a lot of "random, misc things" like potionsLast edited by Gandariel; 2011-08-31 at 12:34 PM.
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2011-08-31, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Except that, as with all of them, she has in-excess-of-her-WBL money trimmed off by the rules of the world she lives in. (For example, when the inn blew up--described by Rich in No Cure for the Paladin Blues as trimming the dragon treasure down to a level-appropriate treasure.)
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2011-08-31, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I don't think that is right.
Yes, you gave an example of a time where their treasure was reduced to an appropiate level in terms of the challenge they faced (IE: The treasure was Mama Dragon sized, but they faced Baby Dragon instead).
I don't think the whole OotS world is constantly cutting down the wealth of characters to keep them in their WBL. Specially when a given character has a "sidequest" taht requires her to amass such a big amount of cash.
Perhaps if she were to actually pay the old ransom fee (now expired, of course) she would put herself back in her WBL.
But it is safe to say that she has an unnatural amount of cash for her level (or any level really, as any D&D character would usually buy equipment with their money).Nothing to see here, move along.
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2011-09-19, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Well, they also have a lot of "standard magic items" that are not specifically mentioned. In one of the bonus strips where Roy and Belkar are arguing about the price for staying at a first class inn, Belkar mentioned that he just recently threw his last +1 (or might have been +2) ring of protection (worth staying in said inn for months) into the trash (because of having found one with a better +).
So the OotC can be assumed to have rings of protection, bracers of armor, and all non flashy stuff like this that doesn't need to be especially mentioned and is just expected for PCs of their levelLast edited by SoC175; 2011-09-19 at 02:57 PM.
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2011-09-21, 05:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Big WTF.
Just rescanning this thread....and....
Not ONE mention of boots of speed (lime green). What is wrong with us?
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2011-09-21, 07:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-21, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lime Green Boots of Speed (No longer lime green)
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2011-09-22, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
WBL is what exactly?
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2011-09-22, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-22, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
She lost most of her treasure in the explosion, and she has not had much opportunity to gain wealth disproportionate to her level. She could have been looting Azure City, but that is counterbalanced by the premiums she had to pay for consumables smuggled into the city. I wouldn't be surprised if she had more wealth than WBL would suggest, but I doubt she has reached the freakishly high level of wealth she (and the rest of the party) had before the inn was destroyed.
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2011-09-23, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Don't forget that his sword is a special material, specifically starmetal. Not sure what the price on that is though, as it's unclear whether the OotS-world's starmetal is the same stuff in Complete Arcane. On one hand, the smith tells Roy that his sword will do extra damage against undead, rather than against outsiders like CA starmetal does. On the other hand, it also works on Sabine (who's an outsider) in Cliffport, though that could be due to overcoming her DR rather than due to getting an extra damage die. Of course, if it does overcome Sabine's DR, then that makes it even more different from CA starmetal, which is equivalent to admantine.
Anyways, CA starmetal is +5000 gp. OotS starmetal, no idea. Which makes this post not terribly useful, although I did manage to link three different strips in it.
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2011-09-23, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS WBL Estimates
Don't forget those ordinary looking small rocks everyone but Haley got.
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the gnomes of war! Or something...
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2011-09-24, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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You know I wonder if those will ever show up again. Just think of how many bonuses Belkar would get with them...
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2011-09-24, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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