LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen

[Coidzor]

I... never would have expected to be afraid and confused of pictures of people with breakfast cereal before.

[Serpentine]

"Look! An AUSTRALIAN!"
Tee hee

edit: Is it just me, or could about half of those also be on "Hipsters Eating Cereal"?

[Mono Vertigo]

Dude. What did you guys do to the Webernets again?
Now, we need to do the logical alternative: "gays eating toasts".

[The Succubus]

League of Legends has one of the most bilious, vitriolic communities on the Internet. Try to ignore them.

Meh. Try Heroes of Newerth. Every time I log into that game, I hear the funny scrapeing sound of my faith in humanity being eroded away.

[Coidzor]

Meh. Try Heroes of Newerth. Every time I log into that game, I hear the funny scrapeing sound of my faith in humanity being eroded away.

Why would you have one of those? And why would you take it into an online game?

[Lissou]

What have we done?!?

It's not us, the pictures are too old, it predates this here discussion.

[DeadManSleeping]

It's not us, the pictures are too old, it predates this here discussion.

Your belief in logic and causality is simply precious.

[Asta Kask]

"Look! An AUSTRALIAN!"
Tee hee

edit: Is it just me, or could about half of those also be on "Hipsters Eating Cereal"?

Are lesbians especially prone to hipsterness?

[Dogmantra]

Are lesbians especially prone to hipsterness?

being straight and being male are both way too mainstream

[Knaight]

Meh. Try Heroes of Newerth. Every time I log into that game, I hear the funny scrapeing sound of my faith in humanity being eroded away.

Somehow, I doubt it has anything on the general Xbox Live community.

[Yora]

I'm actually choking a little bit from laughter now. There seems to be a community for this already.

Remember the lesson from wetriffs.com.

[Qaera]

Are lesbians especially prone to hipsterness?

Have you never heard of tumblr?

~ ♅

[Al'izh'dheg]

I know it may seem silly, but this makes me and

[unosarta]

I know it may seem silly, but this makes me and

What exactly makes you and ?

[Al'izh'dheg]

What exactly makes you and ?

OMG I'm such an idiot. I forgot the link. Sorry about that. I'm waiting for a phone call for a first interview at a new job and I'm nervous.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ce.html/page/1

[Anethiel]

OMG I'm such an idiot. I forgot the link. Sorry about that. I'm waiting for a phone call for a first interview at a new job and I'm nervous.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ce.html/page/1

Good luck with your interview!

That sort of things makes me kind of angry and disappointed.
It's not that it bugs me a lot (there are other discriminations that are way more serious, in my opinion), but if they want to put "interactive" heterosexual-only romance in the game, I'd really like for it to be strictly optional. I didn't appreciate it very much when the first Mass Effect forced me to woo a girl (or an agendered alien which happened to look almost exactly like a humal female - and it was the only species of the game which resembled humans at all! What an amazing coincidence ). I don't think this is the case with the game discussed in the article, but still, I wonder when humanity will grow out of this childish tantrum over whatever is not heteronormative.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of roleplaying different characters when I play videogames, but still, if I wanted to feel the amazing sensation which acting being straight gives, I would have remained in the closet
SARCASM ENGINE OVERLOADED - SHUTTING DOWN...

ION: yesterday I started watching Queer as Folk. The problem I have with it is that it's so awesome I stay up all night watching episode after episode, and this days I have to work in the morning.

[turkishproverb]

ION: yesterday I started watching Queer as Folk. The problem I have with it is that it's so awesome I stay up all night watching episode after episode, and this days I have to work in the morning.

British or US?

[Serpentine]

I find it pretty sad the assumption only LGBT people will want to play LGBT characters - apparently the game company assumes all gamers are homophobes. What about me? What about Yahtzee?

[Coidzor]

OMG I'm such an idiot. I forgot the link. Sorry about that. I'm waiting for a phone call for a first interview at a new job and I'm nervous.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ce.html/page/1

I'm like... wut at that entire thing. Sex in a star wars game? I thought Lucas was so vehemently opposed to the idea getting near to his franchise that he butchered his own romance plotline in the prequel trilogy.

...He didn't die and no one's bothered to mention it or something, has he?

Though, come to think of it, just having PC-NPC sexual relationships in an MMO is in and of itself kinda... skeezy. Like, skeezier than two PCs cybering in the public forum.

[LaZodiac]

I'm like... wut at that entire thing. Sex in a star wars game? I thought Lucas was so vehemently opposed to the idea getting near to his franchise that he butchered his own romance plotline in the prequel trilogy.

...He didn't die and no one's bothered to mention it or something, has he?

Naw, Lucas still loves his little cash cow franchise, and is still alive. The problem is that Bioware, one, always wants to put sex in things, and two, they always chicken out and won't put in same sex unless it's Dragon Age, which is lesser known and thus less widely put in the news.

[Anethiel]

British or US?

I wanted to watch both, so I started with the US one. This way, if I like the British one best, I won't be able to rant about how they "ruined" it.
(I hope I'm not starting any flamewar...)

[turkishproverb]

Intersting take

[Worira]

Good luck with your interview!

That sort of things makes me kind of angry and disappointed.
It's not that it bugs me a lot (there are other discriminations that are way more serious, in my opinion), but if they want to put "interactive" heterosexual-only romance in the game, I'd really like for it to be strictly optional. I didn't appreciate it very much when the first Mass Effect forced me to woo a girl (or an agendered alien which happened to look almost exactly like a humal female - and it was the only species of the game which resembled humans at all! What an amazing coincidence ). I don't think this is the case with the game discussed in the article, but still, I wonder when humanity will grow out of this childish tantrum over whatever is not heteronormative.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of roleplaying different characters when I play videogames, but still, if I wanted to feel the amazing sensation which acting being straight gives, I would have remained in the closet
SARCASM ENGINE OVERLOADED - SHUTTING DOWN...

Uh, Mass Effect doesn't do that. All the romances are completely optional. And although there's no actual gay option, I don't know that it's exactly the staunchest bastion of heteronormativity in existence, seeing as Liara can be romanced by players of either gender.

[LaZodiac]

Uh, Mass Effect doesn't do that. All the romances are completely optional. And although there's no actual gay option, I don't know that it's exactly the staunchest bastion of heteronormativity in existence, seeing as Liara can be romanced by players of either gender.

Well, you were supposed to be able to lesbianize the racist chick as well. And gay up Kayden.

[Anethiel]

Uh, Mass Effect doesn't do that. All the romances are completely optional. And although there's no actual gay option, I don't know that it's exactly the staunchest bastion of heteronormativity in existence, seeing as Liara can be romanced by players of either gender.

Well, as I tried to be as professional as possible towards the girl(s) and as flirty as possible toward the boy, maybe the game disagrees with me about courting I'm really bad at that, anyway, so I may be in the wrong.

Oh well, I can't really be mad with Bioware, they made Jade Empire which was very good IMHO regarding gay-friendlyness. I expected that, with time passing, they'd make games which are more friendly instead of less friendly, though.

[LaZodiac]

Well, as I tried to be as professional as possible towards the girl(s) and as flirty as possible toward the boy, maybe the game disagrees with me about courting I'm really bad at that, anyway, so I may be in the wrong.

Oh well, I can't really be mad with Bioware, they made Jade Empire which was very good IMHO regarding gay-friendlyness. I expected that, with time passing, they'd make games which are more friendly instead of less friendly, though.

They have, but it's always the less touched apon game, like Dragon Age as I just mentioned.

[unosarta]

Hokay, so my friend is having some major issues.

1st of all: her parents are really, really intolerant. Like, they don't like gay people, muslims, transgendered people, pretty much freaking everyone.

2nd of all: they are crazy Asian parents (which isn't to say that some Asian parents aren't fantastic; these ones aren't). They expect perfection from her, and although she is incredibly smart, athletic, going to a really good private school, working her butt off, they blame her for wanting to have friends and go on the internet.

3rd of all: for the second reason, they want to throw her out. They think she is lazy, no good, not working hard enough, disrespectful, and they think that that is enough for her to be thrown out.

4th of all: she is bisexual, and really wants to come out to them. She is worried that compounded on the above points, they would immediately throw her out, stop paying for her school, stop paying for her sports related activities, etc etc. She also doesn't really have anywhere to go if they do throw her out (besides my house, and I don't think my parents would let her, although I might just override them since we have an extra room now that my sister is at college >_>).

What can she do? I don't think I can ask for whether or not her parents can legally throw her out, since that goes against the new forum rule (I think? I honestly have no idea how it works), but I think they can, so what can she do to mitigate it, not from a legal perspective? Are there any options besides "be a good girl"? And let's be honest, her parents have a really, really, really weird definition of what that means, and frankly not one that seems physically possible.

Knowing her parents, they seem fully capable and willing of throwing her out, so it isn't like a question of whether or not they are joking.

Haaaaaalp.

[WarKitty]

Unasorta: How old is your friend? Over or under 18?

[bluewind95]

2nd of all: they are crazy Asian parents (which isn't to say that some Asian parents aren't fantastic; these ones aren't).

There's a BIG difference between Asian parents and Crazy Asian parents.

Anyways... that... is a really hard thing. If she's not prepared for being kicked out, and it may indeed happen (we're talking CRAZY Asian parents here, not Asian parents), she should probably hold her tongue for now. She should look for someone who can give her the legal advice regarding whether or not they can kick her out. If they can, well, before she tells them, she needs to have a backup plan ready. I do think, though, that this will take a while to create and set up. If they can't kick her out... well... they still could make life miserable for her...

... All in all, perhaps it would just be best that, as long as it is of no consequence to the parents (as in... as long as she is not in a relationship with another girl) and as long as they can harm her (by kicking her out or taking her out of the activities she is in), she should maybe not tell them. I know she wants to, but... is she really raedy to face the consequences?

[golentan]

Advice... Talk to the school about options if the parents drop her, because education issues can be a real showstopper at the age I infer she is. If she has no scholarship options or ones for an orderly, timely transition to another place, I'd advise holding off. Otherwise, it's really just a judgement call whether to tell them yet, and one she is better equipped than any of us to make both on whether to tell them and ways to mitigate consequences. I am vehemently anti-closet, so I'm inclined to say "truth should out," but circumstances vary. All you can do is be ready with a bed if she needs it.

But yeah, as a crazy person I can attest. You can't argue with crazy people on the subject of their insanity. It just doesn't work.