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Thread: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
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2011-11-20, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
I am getting somewhat suspicious of UU. Maybe I'm late to the party or something, but yeah, her lack of disclosure of her real name trips the switches for alarm bells.
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2011-11-20, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
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2011-11-20, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-20, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
UU seems too nice, too helpful. She's polite, straightforward (with the exception of Causal spoilers), and altogether too knowledgeable about what is going on.
Yeah, something sinister is happening.
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2011-11-20, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
That or you know, she's just a nice person.
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2011-11-20, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
It's something that's impossible to know at this point. Hussie has trained us well to look cautiously at people. At the same time, he has been known to use our expectations against us.
So: UU. Is she good? Is she evil? At this point, it's Unknowable. Should we be leery? Possibly. Probably. In the end, I think we're all getting surprised.
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2011-11-20, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
My thought is that UU's grey text and the alternate universe setting makes her something like Karkat's counterpart. Thus, since Karkat is always angry and shouting, UU is overly sweet and kind. Whether that means she also has the opposite of Karkat's good intentions, we'll find out later.
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2011-11-20, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
I dunno, if she's the total opposite of Karkat, then let's list some reversed things:
- Kind
- Sweet
- Polite
- Dislikes Swearing
- High Blood Color
- Wicked Intentions
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2011-11-20, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Last edited by irenicObserver; 2011-11-20 at 09:12 PM.
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2011-11-20, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
All trolls in the comic so far have gained their insider knowledge using a computer program to observe another session. I didn't say the session knows about the arrival of the pre-scratch kids for sure, but UU's knowledge also makes it considerably more likely that the session itself knows about them.
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2011-11-20, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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um...how? Like I said that doesn't mean a thing to the session itself. How does it make it more likely when the trolls observation of the kids didn't alter the preset (key word here) parameters of their session? That train of logic don't make a lick of sense and it seems more like your interpretation than actual evidence.
NOTE: If anything the pre-scratch players showing up in the post-scratch session would be considered a glitch by the game.Last edited by irenicObserver; 2011-11-20 at 09:23 PM.
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2011-11-20, 09:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
We can say for certain that Jade will be a Hero of Space, because she is a Hero of Space. And we can say for certain that she will be physically present in the Scratch kids' session, as will her session's planets. Those facts will not change no matter what titles the Scratch kids are assigned. There is no uncertainty about whether the post-Scratch Earth session will contain at least one Hero of Space and at least one Land of Frogs.
Fayd's post doesn't need to be fixed, because it is correct. The appropriate word is not "MIGHT", it is "WILL".
Now, it is true that we don't know if this session can/will refrain from generating a new Hero of Space and a new Land of Frogs simply because one of each is already present. That's where you would want to insert a MIGHT. Obviously you would have trouble doing that, though, because Fayd already put one there:
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2011-11-20, 10:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Lookie what I found
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2011-11-20, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I found a cool comic, guys!
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2011-11-20, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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First, it's not clear either way, I'm talking about probabilities and likelihoods. But I'll spell out my reasoning.
First deduction
1. Trolls gain information about other sessions by observing them with the Trollian program.
2. UU is a troll
Therefore
3. UU gains her information from Trollian.
Second deduction
1. Trollian can see players during any point of their session or their life on a prior planet.
2. Trollian has failed to detect a player (Rose) when she was influenced by elements from beyond her universe.
Therefore
3. The ability of Trollian to detect players is related to their ability to participate in the universe related to that game session.
Third deduction
1. UU can see all the B1 universe kids in the B2 game session
Therefore
2. The kids will be able to participate in the B2 universe
Final deduction
1. The pre-scratch kids can participate in the B2 universe
Therefore
2. The odds that the universe itself is aware of them are increased relative to what they were before we acquired UU's knowledge.
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2011-11-20, 10:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
...Hussie, you're just taunting us now, aren't you?
All of those computing devices, eh?i am going to make it through this year
if it kills me
i am going to make it though this year
if it kills me
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2011-11-20, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Yes we know all this, but we DON'T know if she will be THIS session's hero of space!
Now, it is true that we don't know if this session can/will refrain from generating a new Hero of Space and a new Land of Frogs simply because one of each is already present. That's where you would want to insert a MIGHT. Obviously you would have trouble doing that, though, because Fayd already put one there:Avy by Thormag
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2011-11-20, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Oh, for crying out loud, the Lord English Cairo Coat. Now Hussie is just messing with us.
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2011-11-20, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-21, 01:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
UU seems to imply that Universe B2 (post-scratch Earth) will be successful in spawning a new universe, like A2 was. Perhaps UU is from this new universe C?
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2011-11-21, 02:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Inyssius? Draconi? Would you two please stop agreeing with each other at the top of your lungs?
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2011-11-21, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-21, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh my god. RoboCal.
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2011-11-21, 07:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-21, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
I think this confusion comes from the fact that I was terribly unclear; my apologies.
Inyssius did get what I meant; I didn't mean to imply that there couldn't be ANOTHER hero of Space, we just happen to know that this Alpha session will have a hero of Space. Jade. Now, we don't know if this rules out anything else.
We do, however, know that Jane is a hero of life, if UU can be trusted.
Also: Beta timelines are doomed to fail, and doomed in general. Alpha timelines, on the other hand, are meant to succeed and carry forward. Now: This is now the Alpha session. Hussie is very clever sometimes.
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2011-11-21, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
Apparently, Bro's thing is Robots. Which makes sense. Puppets => Robots.
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2011-11-21, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-21, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Guys, I'm sure about this but I think there might be a connection between Jake and Lord English.
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2011-11-21, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
You think so? I don't really see it.
Okay, seriously, here are my two current theories.
Theory #1 - UU is Aradia's ancestor from the pre-scratch universe. While she uses grey text, and is sort of taking up Karkat's place in the system, her chumname is very similar to Aradia's (UranianUmbra as opposed to ArisenApocalypse), and she shares Aradia's tick of single-letter substitution, and using that single letter for all of her smiley faces. Also, she is a girl, and a troll, and thus presumably one of the trollcestors.
Theory #2 - Grandma Jade from the post-scratch universe is one of Lord English's posse, the way that the Empress and the Handmaid were in the troll universe. That's why her name is English, and she made so many Lord English-related things which Jake inherited - Lord English seems to enjoy using ancestors as members of his crew. Jake himself isn't actually connected to Lord English, except through his grandmother.If you like my thoughts, you'll love my writing. Visit me at www.mishahandman.com.
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2011-11-21, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
My personal theory is that UU is Feferi's Ancestor (Pre-scratch, so she would be the kid version). The grey text is still a way to hide (like with Karkat) but for different reasons. She's still the guardian of Glyblyglub (or however you spell it), which means she still needs to kill Lususes to feed her.
While this is necessary to ensure the survival of the Troll race for the same reason it was Post Scratch, it still means she's the one killing luseses and orphaning trolls, kind of like a tax collector who kills your parents.
She hides behind Grey Text because, if anybody knew who she was, they wouldn't want anything to do with her, since this version of Alternia dosn't have such a casual stance on Murder.
Also, a theory I ran into on the MSPA forums, Bro was actually responding, up until this point.
TT: Nope. Not buying it.
TT: I know that every ounce of your premium behind can be accounted for in that rabbit, and there's no goddamned denying it.
TT: And you know perfectly well where some more uranium can be located.Last edited by BRC; 2011-11-21 at 01:10 PM.