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2011-10-21, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Talon getting his mana regen cut almost in half hurts. Hurts real bad.
I had to get a Philostone, but then I turned it into a Shurelia's and used it + Ghostblade to enter Sprint Mode.
"I guess I just can't exhaust Talon... wtf..."
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I always ask a big question on the League thread right before bedtime so I have something to read while trying to wake up.
Responses of any sort are wonderful.
SpoilerI like coming up with concepts for characters, and will do so often. But writing up crunch, especially for anything that isn't level 1, takes me a while, and after wasting lots of time writing unused characters on Mythweavers, I generally don't make a sheet unless a DM really likes the concept. Sorry.
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2011-10-21, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-21, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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I always ask a big question on the League thread right before bedtime so I have something to read while trying to wake up.
Responses of any sort are wonderful.
SpoilerI like coming up with concepts for characters, and will do so often. But writing up crunch, especially for anything that isn't level 1, takes me a while, and after wasting lots of time writing unused characters on Mythweavers, I generally don't make a sheet unless a DM really likes the concept. Sorry.
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2011-10-21, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-21, 05:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
In their defense, people got really coddled by his humongous regens.
Hell, it is surprising that they were left as they were for as long as they did (10 mana regen at level one, wat).
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2011-10-21, 06:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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people don't like Assassins in solo queue. Kassadin received what seem to me token buffs (buffs, but not enough to make a difference) and suddenly everyone is playing him again. And you know what? I'm banning him. Not because he's good, but because in solo queue, an 3-0-0 Kassadin is godmode.
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2011-10-21, 06:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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As always, I am late to the party, but Definitely Not Blitzcrank has the best skin, and better yet, it's his default!
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2011-10-21, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, I bought renekton awhile ago and just didn't seem to know how to play him well. It hit me just now to do Trimogs Impaler on him. It worked beautifully!
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I also witnessed first hand how scary Skarner is now.
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2011-10-21, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've started streaming again.
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
I started my first campaign outside of an abandoned mine, just as soon as a meteor storm from the moon hits.
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2011-10-21, 09:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Awesome avatar by starwoof
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2011-10-21, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah. Being able to spam Crystal Slash like there is no tomorrow, that little bit of extra oomph on his attack speed and Fracture finally not being counter-intuitive in lane* (seriously, the bloody thing encouraged you to not last hit with it. >_>) did wonders for him, just feels much better to play now.
*Draken is not a very good jungler, not the type who go and get their ass executed by creeps, just poor at the ganking part.
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2011-10-21, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, I've decided I really need to learn some mages. However, I apparently SUCK at laning middle. I'm fine after the laning phase. I mean, my play isn't perfect, but its acceptable for my skill level. Yet today I was outlaned by Ashe as Gragas.
What do I do to improve my laning as a mage?
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2011-10-21, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-21, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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That is a hard question. Can you identify what the problems were? Poor sustaining? Missed spells? Low AP? From my experience (of being on the other side >_>), Gragas wins lanes by having lots of AP early and having scary burst on his barrels as well as regenerating nonstop with his drunken rage.
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2011-10-21, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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I lose my lane.
I have less health, less CS, less kills and less towers (LOL) against other mid laners.
This doesn't help when I know how to lane top. I try to trade harass and it doens't work, then Ashe zones me with contast slowing and I miss CS. >_>
Edit: the three matchups i did today were:
A) Zilean vs Cass (I admit, this is bad no matter how it goes, but I really fed her far to much
B) Ryze v Brand (... yeah, again, bad. I did okay, but it would have been better if I knew what I was doing)
C) Gragas v Ashe (this was an ashe that was actually good and knew what she was doing, I didn't. It showed).
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2011-10-21, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Losing your lane is the terminal stage, low health, low cs, low kills and low towers are the symptoms of the disease. I wanted to know the agents.
In your gragas vs Ashe. Barrels outrange Ashe and at... Some rank (dunno, don't play gragas) they one-shot ranged minions.
What was your runepage, starting item, masteries and most importantly, what did you do? From experience, Gragas' just sit back and chuck barrels until the feel like using drunken rage to regain mana (and health, yay healing passive...). And then when they feel sure of the kill, they belly-flop in.
Were you missing barrels? Were you trying to melee? Did you stick too close while drinking and let her take free shots?
Against Cass... My usual answer is to go boots first, helps dodge her poisons, which in turn kills her harass. I have only ever faced two or three Cassiopeias in mid, however, so no clue there.
Not much that can be said about Brand, I only ever recall fighting brands as champions that are bad against him or as... Brand.
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2011-10-22, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lane mid is totally different playstyle from bruiser vs. bruiser top. Only real solution is to keep doing it until you figure it out. For most mid lane matchups (mage vs. mage), the trick is about landing your combo while avoiding theirs with positioning/dodging/etc. For Zilean vs. Cass, this means boots to avoid her skills while you land your QWQ, and later you dodge with alt-E. Ryze vs. mage is always tricky because his CC doesn't stop them from casting, but because your cooldowns are so short you can usually get in free harass after a trade; take advantage of that. For mage vs. AD carry, you want to get some farm on, get a few levels, and then combo them down; this is superior to trading harass with sustained damage champions. Gragas can't beat Ashe in lane at level 1, but he can farm at range with barrels and level up to the point where Ashe can't stay in lane for fear of getting bursted.
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2011-10-22, 02:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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I disagree that those buffs didn't make a difference. Especially the projectile speed on Null Sphere was really important for him. Before the buffs an enemy mage with sufficient range could easily hit Kassadin with two spells while while that thing was still flying, giving Kassadin often the short end of the stick in a harrasment trade.
Increasing that projecitle speed has made his laning a lot easier.Steam name: [GitP]Ceruton
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2011-10-22, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have been waiting in queue for nearly 25 minutes.
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!Witness my glory and know that when my darkness fades, if you yet live, it is because an ally does not.
AN EMPTY SPOT WITHIN MY CRAW CRAVES YOUR FLESH, YOUR BONES BLED RAW!
YOUR FEAR! YOUR FEAR! SO SWEET! SO STRONG! TO TEASE MY TONGUE, YOUR LIVES ARE GONE!
YOUR ODDS UNFAVORED, MY WEB TOO STRONG! SPEED WON'T NEGATE A LINE STEPPED WRONG!
YOU DARE? DARE SMITE THIS AWESOME BEAST? YOUR FATES ARE SEALED AS MY NEXT FEAST!
HEED THIS BECK AND HEAR THIS CALL! FIGHT ME STILL, YOUR WILLS SHALL FALL!
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2011-10-22, 04:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks to Linklele for my new avatar!
If i had superpowers. I would go to conventions dressed as myself, and see if i got complimented on my authenticity.
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2011-10-22, 05:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-22, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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FWIW, I just laned against Kassadin with Urgot and completely shut him down, despite that Urgot does most of his damage with abilities. I didn't notice the projectile speed difference significantly affecting my ability to get off harass before it landed. It might improve his mirror match a little, but it won't really help him in the counter-lanes.
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2011-10-22, 05:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Witness my glory and know that when my darkness fades, if you yet live, it is because an ally does not.
AN EMPTY SPOT WITHIN MY CRAW CRAVES YOUR FLESH, YOUR BONES BLED RAW!
YOUR FEAR! YOUR FEAR! SO SWEET! SO STRONG! TO TEASE MY TONGUE, YOUR LIVES ARE GONE!
YOUR ODDS UNFAVORED, MY WEB TOO STRONG! SPEED WON'T NEGATE A LINE STEPPED WRONG!
YOU DARE? DARE SMITE THIS AWESOME BEAST? YOUR FATES ARE SEALED AS MY NEXT FEAST!
HEED THIS BECK AND HEAR THIS CALL! FIGHT ME STILL, YOUR WILLS SHALL FALL!
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2011-10-22, 06:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well. Just had another Draft Dominion last 1 hour 30 or so. And got a guy who decided to troll 'cause I didn't pick or ban Rammus. Nobody else did either including him. Rofl. Way too much fun, this game mode.
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2011-10-22, 07:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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LoL's birthday coming up?
Entertainment from a SPECIAL GUEST?
It's going to be Surprise Party Fiddlesticks. And it will be wonderful.BANG → !
OH LOOK AT HER/.../YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN MEAN/RICHARDS
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2011-10-22, 07:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow. I have never had a queue last longer than four or so minutes. And if it does, I restart it and usually get matched within a couple of minutes. Is waiting that long a normal thing on the European servers?
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2011-10-22, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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No, it's just the fact that draft mode dominion doesn't have that many players and my matchmaking Elo for Dominion is probably stupid so it kinda doesn't wanna pair me against anyone... Doesn't help I was duoing with another player with likely stupid MM Elo. I had similar issues when I really played 3v3 Ranked actively, but not really outside that.
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2011-10-22, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
So I have a 10 win IP boost. No emails about it, not showing up on my purchase history and nothing seems to have changed. Anyone else just got one randomly?
I'm not complaining of course.
Nevermind, LoL got the Golden Joystick.
Still, 10 win IP boost is a bit lame compared to the free rune page from last year.Last edited by Dogmantra; 2011-10-22 at 07:47 AM.
BANG → !
OH LOOK AT HER/.../YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN MEAN/RICHARDS
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2011-10-22, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Especially as I need just one more runepage to be able to have something moderately applicable to every champion I use/want to use. As it is, I have to choose between Generic AD Carry and Generic AP Carry when building pages, which leads to me typically just picking one of the two characters I have pages already build for.
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2011-10-22, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bloody hell, if I could get 40 runepages I'd be happy. 11 is way too few for any kind of meaningful rune builds... Better yet, they should just allow changing runes in champ select if you have 11 runepages or something. Then I'd actually buy those.
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