Metal Thread VI: We're So Kvlt, We Have Frostbite On Our Devil Horn Fingers

[Faulty]

Good to know. My only experience with Burzum is limited to Det som engang war, and I wasn't particularly impressed.

But Det Som Engang Var is good. Really though, Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and Filosofem are waaaay different than his first two albums and are more or less foundational for what is now known as atmospheric black metal. Easily two of my favorite black metals in the history of forever.

What's not to like in Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, Spiritual Black Dimensions, or Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia?

Everything. >_>

I like Hlidskjalf, that one dark ambient album of his, but that's about it.

He actually has two dark ambient albums. The first one is... not so good. Hliðskjálf is lovely though. I have it on vinyl.

[grimbold]

so...
any djent fans here?

this made my day

[Whoracle]

Apart from meshuggah, whom I absolutely adore, I don't know any djent. Anyone care to list a few bands?

[eyeofsaulot]

Apart from meshuggah, whom I absolutely adore, I don't know any djent. Anyone care to list a few bands?

No djent bands come close to the greatness of Meshuggah. However, a lot of djent lovers seem to be gravitating toward a new band called Vildhjarta. Not my cup of tea, and I'm really put off by a band having two vocalists, neither of which play any instrument. It's like a bunch a friends wanted to start a band and didn't have the heart to tell one of the vocalists that their services weren't required.

[Faulty]

No djent bands come close to the greatness of Meshuggah. However, a lot of djent lovers seem to be gravitating toward a new band called Vildhjarta. Not my cup of tea, and I'm really put off by a band having two vocalists, neither of which play any instrument. It's like a bunch a friends wanted to start a band and didn't have the heart to tell one of the vocalists that their services weren't required.

Clearly you have never heard dualing punk vocals.

[Faulty]

Only example I know of dual vocals in punk is Nausea. And I hate Amy Miret's voice.

F-Minus, man. F-Minus.

[eyeofsaulot]

I've actually heard both of the punk bands mentioned, but I've never seen video of them performing. A quick wiki search has informed me that at least the singers in F-Minus all actually had some other duty.

...not the same case for Nausea. That still strikes me as incredibly lame to see live.

EDIT: That isn't to imply that the occasional duet or guest vocal appearance is bad. But just having it throughout the entire show, especially with time split equally so that neither can claim the position of frontman, seems like it would look and feel awkward.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

I've actually heard both of the punk bands mentioned, but I've never seen video of them performing. A quick wiki search has informed me that at least the singers in F-Minus all actually had some other duty.

...not the same case for Nausea. That still strikes me as incredibly lame to see live.

EDIT: That isn't to imply that the occasional duet or guest vocal appearance is bad. But just having it throughout the entire show, especially with time split equally so that neither can claim the position of frontman, seems like it would look and feel awkward.

It worked pretty well for 3 Inches of Blood for quite some time...

[Marillion]

My favorite Finnish doom band, Swallow The Sun, recently released their 5th album, featuring guest vocals by Annette Olzon on Cathedral Walls. I'm sure the entire album is very good, but I can't stop listening to that and Labyrinth of London (Horror Pt. IV).

[Nomrom]

My favorite Finnish doom band, Swallow The Sun, recently released their 5th album, featuring guest vocals by Annette Olzon on Cathedral Walls. I'm sure the entire album is very good, but I can't stop listening to that and Labyrinth of London (Horror Pt. IV).

Sweet! I did not know they were releasing a new album They're definitely my favorite doom metal band (not that I listen to a lot of doom metal). Now I've gotta check this one out.

[Faulty]

I've actually heard both of the punk bands mentioned, but I've never seen video of them performing. A quick wiki search has informed me that at least the singers in F-Minus all actually had some other duty.

...not the same case for Nausea. That still strikes me as incredibly lame to see live.

EDIT: That isn't to imply that the occasional duet or guest vocal appearance is bad. But just having it throughout the entire show, especially with time split equally so that neither can claim the position of frontman, seems like it would look and feel awkward.

I listen to music, though. I don't really get to many shows. Hell, most of the music I listen to would be difficult to reproduce live, and the half of the stuff I listen to is by projects/bands that don't play live or don't exist anymore. ~_~

It worked pretty well for 3 Inches of Blood for quite some time...

@_@

[Hawkfrost000]

My favorite Finnish doom band, Swallow The Sun, recently released their 5th album, featuring guest vocals by Annette Olzon on Cathedral Walls. I'm sure the entire album is very good, but I can't stop listening to that and Labyrinth of London (Horror Pt. IV).

Annette from Nightwish?

i may have to check this out...

DM

[eyeofsaulot]

It worked pretty well for 3 Inches of Blood for quite some time...

I feel like I could have used that very same link to add weight to my argument. The second vocalist's contributions seemed unnecessary at every turn.

...and I'm confused, where was the part where they go, "THIS... IS... THE PAINKILLEEERRRR!"?

I listen to music, though. I don't really get to many shows. Hell, most of the music I listen to would be difficult to reproduce live, and the half of the stuff I listen to is by projects/bands that don't play live or don't exist anymore. ~_~

Well, yes, I imagine it would be pretty difficult to see live an Eastern European black metal band that only ever releases 66 copies of their albums on cassette which feature more instruments than permanent band members and plays one non-advertised local show every five years.

On a related note, DsO should become a touring band. Can you imagine?! That show would blow my mind to bits.

[Feytalist]

He actually has two dark ambient albums. The first one is... not so good. Hliðskjálf is lovely though. I have it on vinyl.

I'd heard of Daudi Baldrs, yes. I'd also heard it sucked, so I stayed away.

My favorite Finnish doom band, Swallow The Sun, recently released their 5th album, featuring guest vocals by Annette Olzon on Cathedral Walls. I'm sure the entire album is very good, but I can't stop listening to that and Labyrinth of London (Horror Pt. IV).

Why didn't I know about this? :/ This is going on my to-get list right away. Swallow the Sun is great.

[Faulty]

I feel like I could have used that very same link to add weight to my argument. The second vocalist's contributions seemed unnecessary at every turn.

...and I'm confused, where was the part where they go, "THIS... IS... THE PAINKILLEEERRRR!"?

The whole bands contributions seemed unnecessary. >_>

Well, yes, I imagine it would be pretty difficult to see live an Eastern European black metal band that only ever releases 66 copies of their albums on cassette which feature more instruments than permanent band members and plays one non-advertised local show every five years.

Live shows are untrve.

On a related note, DsO should become a touring band. Can you imagine?! That show would blow my mind to bits.

God, you wouldn't be able to hear anything over the drums. @_@ It would also ruin the mystique. Part of the fun of DsO is how vaguely... disembodied they feel. I mean, other than Miko Aspa, who is of course relatively well known in the heavy electronics underground.

[eyeofsaulot]

The whole bands contributions seemed unnecessary. >_>

Okay, I chuckled at that.

It would also ruin the mystique. Part of the fun of DsO is how vaguely... disembodied they feel.

See, I feel a band can add to their mystique with a live show. It just depends on how they decide to go about it (and if their visual creativity matches their musical creativity). They don't have to show their faces on stage or head to the bar after the show to meet the fans.

[Faulty]

They're supposed to not have any embodiment at all though. It seems like it's part of its schtick.

[Moff Chumley]

Live shows are untrve.

Has someone been kicked in the head one too many times?

[Comrade]

Has someone been kicked in the head one too many times?

Getting kicked in the head is totally trve.

[eyeofsaulot]

They're supposed to not have any embodiment at all though. It seems like it's part of its schtick.

You know, that's an interesting interpretation. I hadn't really put too much thought into the meaning of their decision to not play live shows, so I hadn't come to any conclusion about it. It got me curious as to what they claimed was the reasoning behind it.

"First and foremost, we want to avoid at all costs this very human illusion of being important and gladly leave these fifteen minutes of fame, as Warhol brilliantly put it, to whoever wants them. In regard to what we are trying to understand and dare to praise despite the immense restrictions of human understanding, we are nothing. This being said, we are of course better than most humans, our humility lies on a metaphysical level." [source]

Oh man, that last part had me laughing. Now if that's what they truly believe (or whether it even matters) is up for debate, but it's certainly something to consider. What I do know is, with a statement like that, the chance for live shows in the future seems pretty slim.

[Zocelot]

So, this

[Feytalist]

So, this

I heard their version of Moonshield. It's pretty awesome actually.

[Faulty]

Has someone been kicked in the head one too many times?

I'm too busy sitting in the dark, my only light a few candles, and listening to Les Legions Noir demos.

You know, that's an interesting interpretation. I hadn't really put too much thought into the meaning of their decision to not play live shows, so I hadn't come to any conclusion about it. It got me curious as to what they claimed was the reasoning behind it.

"First and foremost, we want to avoid at all costs this very human illusion of being important and gladly leave these fifteen minutes of fame, as Warhol brilliantly put it, to whoever wants them. In regard to what we are trying to understand and dare to praise despite the immense restrictions of human understanding, we are nothing. This being said, we are of course better than most humans, our humility lies on a metaphysical level." [source]

Oh man, that last part had me laughing. Now if that's what they truly believe (or whether it even matters) is up for debate, but it's certainly something to consider. What I do know is, with a statement like that, the chance for live shows in the future seems pretty slim.

I sorta like the whole "DsO as an entity" thing. *shrug* Then again, that's a cool theme regarding The Axis of Perdition, but they played live shows. They're a lot more open though. I actually know a guy who knows some of the Axis dudes. I seem to know people who know people all the time, but never know artists themselves. Sad day. :(

[Moff Chumley]

Getting kicked in the head is totally trve.

Moshing is great, as long as you give as good as you get.

[eyeofsaulot]

I sorta like the whole "DsO as an entity" thing. *shrug* Then again, that's a cool theme regarding The Axis of Perdition, but they played live shows. They're a lot more open though. I actually know a guy who knows some of the Axis dudes. I seem to know people who know people all the time, but never know artists themselves. Sad day. :(

Yeah, one huge difference between them and DsO is that the Axis guys seem to have a healthy sense of humor.

[Faulty]

Yeah, one huge difference between them and DsO is that the Axis guys seem to have a healthy sense of humor.

Oh man that is fantastic. Their Bio on their band page is pretty funny.

The part with the cat is the best. My cats do that.

[grimbold]

Apart from meshuggah, whom I absolutely adore, I don't know any djent. Anyone care to list a few bands?

i adore periphery
vildjharta is good
so is Animals as Leaders

Tosin Abasi is future hendrix IMO

also there is TesseracT and Human Abstract both of whom are amazing

[Feytalist]

Just like I've been on a Black Sabbath binge these last few days. A friend gave me their Greatest Hits CD a while back. I'd forgotten how good it was.

Although I don't like Dio as much as I used to. Weird.

[Faulty]

So I've spent all day today listening to Motörhead pretty much. No death metal, no thrash, no grindcore, just Motörhead--mostly classics like Overkill and Ace of Spades. Realised it's been way too long since I really listened to Motörhead and was reminded again of why they are and always will be the greatest ****ing metal band.

Did you know Lemmy was in an exploitation film based on Romeo & Juliet? :P

[eyeofsaulot]

Oh man that is fantastic. Their Bio on their band page is pretty funny.

The part with the cat is the best. My cats do that.

That bit about Urfe in their bio killed me: "Literally dozens of people across the world didn't hate it." So true.

vildjharta is good
so is Animals as Leaders

One of these has too many vocalists and the other is severely lacking in that department. Maybe Vilhjarta should hand over one of theirs to Animals as Leaders, so balance can be had.