LGBTAitP - Part 21: BLACKJACK!

[Nix Nihila]

Eh? I thought falsetto was precisely what one didn't want to do.

It's useful to go into falsetto to reduce vibration, and then slowly work down to a more natural voice. It makes it rather awkward to practice at first though.

[Arachu]

Eh? I thought falsetto was precisely what one didn't want to do.

It's a stepping stone, sort of - you use it to judge the upper limit of your pitch and get a feel for resonating in your head (as opposed to your chest).

There's a lot of work to do after that part (Hollywood ), but because I have such a limited range at the moment it's a milestone for me.

On that note, after recording my voice I find that it's capable of sounding... Slightly less flat. It's kind of annoying actually, but it's progress.

[supernerd]

Ah. the ancients times when gays were only thought of as promiscuous, soulless, child molesters. When was that, like, the 70s?

Yeah, that ancient period from ~1824 when homosexual and heterosexual were invented, to the 1970s.

Heh, Ancient Greece.

[Triscuitable]

I've been having some weird feelings lately. As in, sexual feelings. The kind that are completely foreign to me. I'm just going to take a while until I can get myself together.

I've always spoken to professionals on Autism, on how sexuality doesn't develop until much further into adolescence. It's an interesting thought.

Anyways, I'll take some time to myself, maybe a week or so.

I disagree.

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There will never be a more badass Inspector then Javert from Les Mis.

Did you know that Inspector Cabanela is the greatest man ever?

[H Birchgrove]

Hammett did that solely to see if he could get away with it. His editors kept censoring him, so he started using words to see if they caught it. They didn't, and thus it become slang for "gunman".

And given this explanation came long before "gay" became acceptable, combined with his other attitudes, I"m inclined to believe him.

This pleases Hammer the Barbarian Librarian student.

(I guess I let my view on Hammett be too influenced by an otherwise great detective film in which Hammett himself solved a case, which had a male homosexual and/or prostitute who was pretty stereotyped.)

[noparlpf]

Yay, weird rules! I love my country's.

When you're 21, you can get into all the bars.
When you're 18, you can drive a car, vote, and fight for your country.
When you're 16, you can buy alcohol and porn.
When you're 13, you can decide on silly, insignificant questions like God, life and destiny.

And the thread has been allowed to drink since it was made, as long as it could convince a nice, older friend to buy it

I think in New York (where I live now):
When one is 21, one can get into bars and purchase alcoholic beverages.
When one is 18, one can vote, and purchase tobacco products, lottery tickets, porn, lighters, and knives.
When one is 17, one can purchase a ticket to an R-rated movie, or have sex. (Though I don't remember the other specifications of NY age of consent laws; I only read up on CT ones when I lived back there.)
When one is 16, one can get a driving learner's permit; full license depends on various other factors.

I've been having some weird feelings lately. As in, sexual feelings. The kind that are completely foreign to me. I'm just going to take a while until I can get myself together.

I've always spoken to professionals on Autism, on how sexuality doesn't develop until much further into adolescence. It's an interesting thought.

Anyways, I'll take some time to myself, maybe a week or so.

That does sound pretty weird if you're not used to them. I know it would weird me out. Good luck figuring things out.


On a completely random note, hey, KenderWizard, I just remembered that I made friends with a 3.2 billion year old rock a while back. Isn't that neat? :D

[Arachu]

I've been having some weird feelings lately. As in, sexual feelings. The kind that are completely foreign to me. I'm just going to take a while until I can get myself together.

I've always spoken to professionals on Autism, on how sexuality doesn't develop until much further into adolescence. It's an interesting thought.

Anyways, I'll take some time to myself, maybe a week or so.

Not sure if sucks. *Hugs*

In any case, good luck figuring things out. It sounds pretty confusing. :/

[H Birchgrove]

Yeah, that ancient period from ~1824 when homosexual and heterosexual were invented, to the 1970s.

Heh, Ancient Greece.

This guy is one of my heroes.

[Coidzor]

It's a stepping stone, sort of - you use it to judge the upper limit of your pitch and get a feel for resonating in your head (as opposed to your chest).

There's a lot of work to do after that part (Hollywood ), but because I have such a limited range at the moment it's a milestone for me.

What is the milestone exactly? Were you not able to reach a falsetto before?

On that note, after recording my voice I find that it's capable of sounding... Slightly less flat. It's kind of annoying actually, but it's progress.

Ugh, I hate vocal flatness. I'm prone to colds and so it's about 50-50 whether I'll just be flat and unable to do anything about it.

It's good to hear you're overcoming it though.

[BillyBobJoe]

So... I have a few things that I would like to get off my chest, so I'll put them in a spoiler.

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Since I was about... 13, I've always been a little odd about my gender, having occasional bouts of SUDDENLY WRONG BODY, and would randomly go back and forth between cis and trans, ie gender fluidity. Lately, I've been 'settling out' so to speak, on a female gender identity. Sexuality-wise, I'm primarily asexual, but I will have random bouts of bisexuality some days. Anyways, onto the issue. One of my female friends has a huge thing for me (and has for a while), and we were sort of a 'thing'. I do like her quite a bit, but I don't have quite the level of feelings for her as she does for me. I do want to pursue a relationship with her, but I know for a fact that she's straight, and her family is highly religious. So I'm really worried about this, and don't have an idea on how to work with this... My sexuality/gender-identity has never really come up between us, though half the people I know think that I'm gay, or at least bi (which, really, is a perfectly acceptable assessment, considering the frequency that I hit on guys, and not all that untruthful ), including her for a while, and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, as I don't really know how she'll react...

[Arachu]

What is the milestone exactly? Were you not able to reach a falsetto before?

Ugh, I hate vocal flatness. I'm prone to colds and so it's about 50-50 whether I'll just be flat and unable to do anything about it.

It's good to hear you're overcoming it though.

Oh, I couldn't leave semi-oboe before. I sounded like I had a cold and/or was being sarcastic all the time.

'Course, I usually was being sarcastic, but that's aside from my point...

I'm making faster progress than I thought I would... Realizing that I was always dimly aware of my gender was the best morale boost I've gotten in... Ever.

So... I have a few things that I would like to get off my chest, so I'll put them in a spoiler.

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Since I was about... 13, I've always been a little odd about my gender, having occasional bouts of SUDDENLY WRONG BODY, and would randomly go back and forth between cis and trans, ie gender fluidity. Lately, I've been 'settling out' so to speak, on a female gender identity. Sexuality-wise, I'm primarily asexual, but I will have random bouts of bisexuality some days. Anyways, onto the issue. One of my female friends has a huge thing for me (and has for a while), and we were sort of a 'thing'. I do like her quite a bit, but I don't have quite the level of feelings for her as she does for me. I do want to pursue a relationship with her, but I know for a fact that she's straight, and her family is highly religious. So I'm really worried about this, and don't have an idea on how to work with this... My sexuality/gender-identity has never really come up between us, though half the people I know think that I'm gay, or at least bi (which, really, is a perfectly acceptable assessment, considering the frequency that I hit on guys, and not all that untruthful ), including her for a while, and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, as I don't really know how she'll react...

*Hugs* I wish I knew what to say in cases like this... I hope things turn out okay. *More hugs*

[noparlpf]

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Since I was about... 13, I've always been a little odd about my gender, having occasional bouts of SUDDENLY WRONG BODY, and would randomly go back and forth between cis and trans, ie gender fluidity. Lately, I've been 'settling out' so to speak, on a female gender identity. Sexuality-wise, I'm primarily asexual, but I will have random bouts of bisexuality some days. Anyways, onto the issue. One of my female friends has a huge thing for me (and has for a while), and we were sort of a 'thing'. I do like her quite a bit, but I don't have quite the level of feelings for her as she does for me. I do want to pursue a relationship with her, but I know for a fact that she's straight, and her family is highly religious. So I'm really worried about this, and don't have an idea on how to work with this... My sexuality/gender-identity has never really come up between us, though half the people I know think that I'm gay, or at least bi (which, really, is a perfectly acceptable assessment, considering the frequency that I hit on guys, and not all that untruthful ), including her for a while, and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, as I don't really know how she'll react...

Sounds complicated. If you're interested in pursuing a relationship with her, I'd suggest talking it out with her, assuming you think she would take it alright.
Good luck! n.n

[Eurus]

Did you know that Inspector Cabanela is the greatest man ever?

I still side with Javert.

Not even going to mention a certain other inspector...

[supernerd]

We just started rehearsing for our school's production of Les Miserables on Tuesday.

And on the subject of falsetto, my general switch is an F, functional switch is a G and situational switch is an A flat, all above middle C. Tenors FTW. So when we were saying our parts at the first day of rehearsal, I was hoping to say "first tenor" in something akin to a low C, but it came out at like an E, the one over an octave higher. I love my voice. I really do, but sometimes... Anyway, so if anyone wants to have my voice to pass as a low alto woman, I'd gladly do it. I'm blessed to have an overlap and not a break when I have to switch, so there is this mix that I can find if I work it just right, so I sound just like a soft spoken woman.

Just a tip, try to find a mix in your voice, it helps. It also helps to have an overlap between head and falsetto. My falsetto starts at my Adam's Apple. It might be chest and falsetto, though. And you just have to be able to get in between the tones, so as to get a smooth woman-like tone. I use it to seduce people IC in my IRL D&D group. It's smoother and less nasal-y than something that would be labeled as a "gay voice"

I really hope I don't sound like I'm bragging, that is not what I want.

[turkishproverb]

This pleases Hammer the Barbarian Librarian student.

(I guess I let my view on Hammett be too influenced by an otherwise great detective film in which Hammett himself solved a case, which had a male homosexual and/or prostitute who was pretty stereotyped.)

Yea, well that film certainly couldn't have helped.

[Arachu]

We just started rehearsing for our school's production of Les Miserables on Tuesday.

And on the subject of falsetto, my general switch is an F, functional switch is a G and situational switch is an A flat, all above middle C. Tenors FTW. So when we were saying our parts at the first day of rehearsal, I was hoping to say "first tenor" in something akin to a low C, but it came out at like an E, the one over an octave higher. I love my voice. I really do, but sometimes... Anyway, so if anyone wants to have my voice to pass as a low alto woman, I'd gladly do it. I'm blessed to have an overlap and not a break when I have to switch, so there is this mix that I can find if I work it just right, so I sound just like a soft spoken woman.

Just a tip, try to find a mix in your voice, it helps. It also helps to have an overlap between head and falsetto. My falsetto starts at my Adam's Apple. It might be chest and falsetto, though. And you just have to be able to get in between the tones, so as to get a smooth woman-like tone. I use it to seduce people IC in my IRL D&D group. It's smoother and less nasal-y than something that would be labeled as a "gay voice"

I really hope I don't sound like I'm bragging, that is not what I want.

I can barely sound annoyed, and you can pull off 'hot chick'? Lucky.

(Just kidding, of course. You go, boy! n.n)

Maybe I should mix in some singing study with everything else I've been looking up... Couldn't hurt. I'll do that as I start to learn... Some language. Not sure which one yet (I'll probably pick with a dice-roller).

[Lady Tialait]

The seven year old will most likely grow out of it. If not the being attracted to other boys, it will be his yelling it to everyone. I don't mean he will get into the closet, I mean...I don't go around yelling "I'm straight!"...he will grow out of yelling it at everyone.

[Nix Nihila]

So... I have a few things that I would like to get off my chest, so I'll put them in a spoiler.

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Since I was about... 13, I've always been a little odd about my gender, having occasional bouts of SUDDENLY WRONG BODY, and would randomly go back and forth between cis and trans, ie gender fluidity. Lately, I've been 'settling out' so to speak, on a female gender identity. Sexuality-wise, I'm primarily asexual, but I will have random bouts of bisexuality some days. Anyways, onto the issue. One of my female friends has a huge thing for me (and has for a while), and we were sort of a 'thing'. I do like her quite a bit, but I don't have quite the level of feelings for her as she does for me. I do want to pursue a relationship with her, but I know for a fact that she's straight, and her family is highly religious. So I'm really worried about this, and don't have an idea on how to work with this... My sexuality/gender-identity has never really come up between us, though half the people I know think that I'm gay, or at least bi (which, really, is a perfectly acceptable assessment, considering the frequency that I hit on guys, and not all that untruthful ), including her for a while, and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, as I don't really know how she'll react...

As a fellow genderfluid person (although I rarely ever identify as anything but female these days), you have my sympathies. Unfortunately, I don't have any useful advice, but I do hope everything works out. Hugs if you want them.

[SiuiS]

It's Genesis 38:8-10, unless I'm grossly misunderstanding you.

Well, yes. My point was that discussion wouldn't be a good idea.

Where did the whole discussion of where cultural taboos about sexual practices start? I can't seem to find the start of the thread

Something about sodomy. Not entirely sure myself anymore.

[Tangent]

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Because you're talking about the possibility of an entity which actually lacks depth and only has the window dressing if we're still following the same line of thought that started all of this.

Keveak asserted that maybe being shallow and lacking depth and just being nothing more than a collection of masks was actually a good thing and was a valid answer as to someone's "real self."

I replied that I rather doubted that such a person could truly exist, as even the most consummate skin-changer has something underneath it all. *If you want to start to try to psychoanalyze me, I suppose I could share that I also find the idea rather demeaning to the human spirit and cold comfort as something said to reassure someone who is re-examining their entire persona and life.

And then you jumped in and here we are.

So it's more that I find your usage of the word complex to be inappropriate.

Can't for the life of me figure out how you think your first point runs counter to my stance when it pretty much just re-encapsulates my initial assertion from the standpoint that having a lot of hats leads to depth rather than going with the original stance that lacking depth is OK because one has a lot of hats to make up for it or my response to the original stance which was that I rather doubted any human being could truly exist without something more than just a bunch of lousy hats to their personality and self.

See, that's your problem. Keveak said maybe it isn't just being shallow and a liar at all. And you are interpreting it as 'being a shallow pretender is a good thing' and trying to refute that. (apologies if I'm misrepresenting you Keveak; not my intention!)

What is the difference between a man who has no substance and can pretend well, and a man who is easily able to adapt to a multitude of social situations so well even he is worried he is losing himself? Because technically, there isn't any except how I phrased it¹. The negative spin on the first one implies it's a negative state, the second implies its a more positive state. Hence "it's all in the presentation". The phrase "just a bunch of lousy hats" really plays down exactly how deep a 'hat' can be.

Although really, you should have figured that out as I said as much in response to Al'iz'dheg directly in the same post. I do hope you didn't just scroll through all the green to see if I mentioned you specifically

I can't really think of any response to this other than shyly happy squeeing. Thanks everyone for your kind compliments (even if they are unfounded flattery )

I've been thinking about androgyny and such, and as far as I can see there's a problem. If you start presenting as the opposite sex, it's obvious what you're doing. But androgyny, by its very nature, is more subtle. It's all very well to try and avoid giving off gender cues, but people that know you already know what sex you are and are going to see that no matter what. If you swap completely, then eventually the new gender cues will override the old and perceptions will change. But if you're not giving off any, then there's no new input to override the old perceptions.

I'm not one to say otherwise. In the time Ive been lurking, I always thought you were a girl and got really confused when you were called a guy by some of the posters. The pictures likewise; you honestly looked more like a girl with a beard than a guy.

Which, really, just combines with my response to Coidzor to show that I am terrible at hard limits.

I love skirts. And dresses. A lot.

That said I'd do my best not to flash my undies at anyone. O_o

I always liked dresses. Though, really, I am just in love with swishy fabrics.

Swishy~ swishy~

Nice look by the way.

I'm surprised people are singling out my arms as tells. That's not something I'd thought of aside from shaving my forearms. What is it about them that gives it away?

Addendum to Asta: despite my goal being androgyny, you're not going to offend me by saying I look female or anything. Just as long as it's true! What I'm looking for most is honesty.

The way you square them. Masculine hand gestures involve angles and lines, more than curves. In the picture where you are hugging yourself (and bear with me, this is all from memory after first reading your post a couple days ago) you have both shoulders at relatively the same height, and your arms cross directly in front of you in a rectangular shield.

I feel even more driven to drink than usual after a crummy dating experience this week. *I could use some gay Internet hugs. *

I am afraid all I have to offer are nongay hugs. Would that be sufficient to your needs?
*hug!*

Eugh the genderqueer is so broken I mean what other prestige class combines all the best features of two base classes. Except of course the bisexual (Double sexuality progression!? Were the designers mad?)

Eh, it's all about action economy. You'd till only get one action per round, regardless of target gender.

Wait, how do you progress in sexuality in the first place?

Actually, don't answer that.

By experience, just like every other class, silly.

There's a joke here about noncombat encounters that I'm not qualified to make. Lix, wanna field this one?

[Troll Stuff]

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I appreciate a good story as much as the next person but one that exploits handicapped people for their disabilities disgusts me. The characters aren't Sasuka or Kim or whatever, they're girl-with-one-arm-and-an-eyepatch or girl-who-is-emotionally-traumatized-but-will-sleep-with-protagonist.

Sure, except that is exactly what the game does NOT do. It is not exploitative, it does not reduce characters to their disabilities, and it doesn't sexualised said disabilities either. You've got no ground to stand on.

do people masturbate to this? yes? Ok. *
I'm not going to Dignify that with a response

You do know this is the Internet right? Where this rule applies to literally everything?

And so soon we will crash my pretty new thread over the edge of a cliff because we tried to drive by committee. *sniff* I will miss you thread.

In other news... Raaagh so angry over news stories lately. I can't believe what it's socially acceptable for people to say about long term loving relationships in this day and age. And then there's the trial for the guy who videoed his roommate and may have shamed him into suicide a year or two back.

Yikes. That does sound rather depressing
On the upside, as folks continue to age, the number of people with hard, irrevocable stances in utter opposition decreases. That's... Kinda positive. Morbid, but positive!

On the plus side, planet of gay psychics. A well reversed story showing prejudice for how messed up it can be put a nice note on my day yesterday.

Gay psychics? I'll have to look into that. What would this story be called?

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What's that? Locked thread? Like that's gonna stop me.

Indeed, when this comes up, I'm always surprised that this hasn't been covered abundantly out in the wilds, or at least the seedy underbelly of urban dictionary.

That always confused me as well. Why is dude masculine? Doesn't dude mean, literally, an infected hair on an elephant's arse? Hm. I suspect not, cursory look shows it comes from German for fool. Fool is pretty gender neutral isn't it?

No one liked my prestige class?

Gimme time to get back to the thread, mate!
In truth, it seems a bit quick on the draw. Wouldn't bottom surgery come later in the progression? Or I suppose have several levels where augmentation occurs, and have a list of augmentations which would include said surgery. It's odd to offer a mechanical bonus with the option of not getting said bonus. Allowing a lateral choice would work better mechanically, and (here I'm out on a limb) probably do a better job of conveying the multiple routes it could take.

My humble thanks for the gay hugs I have received. To clarify, the hugger need not be gay: merely the spirit of the hug.

Oh good! *hugs again*

& not the wolf whistles and penguin pebbles you deserved?

Dare I ask? What exactly is a penguin pebble?

Notice how he complains not talking about queer stuff, and immediately gets into fueling the conversation he complained about. Obvious trolling.

I don't know. It could also just be that Sun was challenged and responded antagonistically, regardless of topic. It matches what I know of human behavior.

Not that I disagree with you, exactly. Given post count and attitude I do indeed think it was a trolling. But hard to say objectively.

Body weight issues hugs for you three! And wisdom teeth removal hugs for Nope! I remember getting mine out; total pain!

Better than leaving them in though. Apparently wisdom teeth utterly fail at their presumed function. Wisdom teeth just push other teeth out of proper alignment and cause fractures.

If it's important to people to keep talking about it, could you take it to spoilers?

oki doki loki.

It shouldn't really be a Prestige class, let alone a 10 level one. Most Prestige Classes you can't enter until Sixth level, so you won't be able to totally transition until 16th level. Given that most characters are pretty much gods by that point, it seems odd that they've only transitioned then. It would make much more sense as a base class.

It's all about optimization. Prestige classes can be accessed as easy as level two if you're hungry enough for it. And the best optimization is usually used to achieve otherwise-suboptimal mechanical results for fluff reasons, so it fits.

I call everyone I'm on roughly even ground with "dude" or "man." The latter is a little harder to rationalize as a gender neutral pronoun, admittedly.

Dunno. Man originally was used in the same way as human, wasn't it? You could just use man as acknowledgement that the person is considered a person, and on equal footing with you.

Interesting article. I too find it difficult to imagine orientation being discernible at seven, but then, I never reached an age of liking girls (or boys). I guess it might be possible to tell before puberty, but I don't feel like it would be really noticeable until puberty kicks in and the sex drive becomes active.

Depends on the person. I liked the ladyfolk back before I could really differentiate between ladyfolk and non-ladyfolk. I just mentally substituted non-ladyfolk parts for one of 'Em when I thought about it. It's quite possible that a seven-year old would know that they have a larger interest in their own sex than the opposite.

IN OTHER NEWS, I followed the Hanako path in Whoop-dee-doo Girls. It was cute.

The way this is phrased is hilarious, thank you

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Since I was about... 13, I've always been a little odd about my gender, having occasional bouts of SUDDENLY WRONG BODY, and would randomly go back and forth between cis and trans, ie gender fluidity. Lately, I've been 'settling out' so to speak, on a female gender identity. Sexuality-wise, I'm primarily asexual, but I will have random bouts of bisexuality some days. Anyways, onto the issue. One of my female friends has a huge thing for me (and has for a while), and we were sort of a 'thing'. I do like her quite a bit, but I don't have quite the level of feelings for her as she does for me. I do want to pursue a relationship with her, but I know for a fact that she's straight, and her family is highly religious. So I'm really worried about this, and don't have an idea on how to work with this... My sexuality/gender-identity has never really come up between us, though half the people I know think that I'm gay, or at least bi (which, really, is a perfectly acceptable assessment, considering the frequency that I hit on guys, and not all that untruthful ), including her for a while, and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, as I don't really know how she'll react...

The answer is simple, but hard to execute.
The point of a relationship is to be I comfortable in a position that is otherwise vulnerable. So first you should go over exactly how much you're willing to invest. Decide if the worst case scenario, which sounds like her telling your folks and everyone hating you, is at all likely, and worth the best case scenario.

That's pretty blegh, but it's the easy part. The hard part is telling her exactly what's going on in clear language, and being open with her so she can make an informed decision.

Which is damned hard, in truth. But it's the way to go.



¹: proficiency cannot be gauged, based on the statements given so 'one is a pretender and the other is actually skilled' falls apart; you rely entirely on the speaker to color how you determine it.

[Nix Nihila]

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Sure, except that is exactly what the game does NOT do. It is not exploitative, it does not reduce characters to their disabilities, and it doesn't sexualised said disabilities either. You've got no ground to stand on.



You do know this is the Internet right? Where this rule applies to literally everything?

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I hate to open up this can of worms again, but can we stop calling Sun a troll please? Sure, they didn't introduce themselves into the thread in a way very likely to produce a warm welcoming, but the loathing that some of you seem to be expressing makes me rather uncomfortable. I won't make any judgements on the game, not having played it, but some of the concerns Sun raised are valid (whether or not they apply to the game is a separate issue), and while I don't think Sun handled it entirely appropriately, screaming "Troll! Troll!" isn't exactly appropriate either.

[golentan]

Mildly tipsy, and sated.

's been a good day.

[turkishproverb]

Good for you.

[Arachu]

Cheers, mate.

Something about sodomy. Not entirely sure myself anymore.

Nope, Kindablue and I were discussing Dante's Inferno for some reason or another - wait, I got it, someone brought up a quote I forget, and someone else responded by quoting the inscription on the gates to (Dantean) Hell. Anywho, one of us wondered if homosexuals were explicitly condemned in it (I incorrectly asserted that it was ambiguous, though it's worth noting that his friend's "sin" wasn't described (to my knowledge)), and Blue linked something that discussed the implications of more moderate Sodomites receiving considerably less harsh punishments.

Also, Supernerd commented at some point. *Hugs everyone she forgot*

... *Gasp* ohmygod I just referred to myself with a feminine pronoun without a second thought!

The way you square them. Masculine hand gestures involve angles and lines, more than curves. In the picture where you are hugging yourself (and bear with me, this is all from memory after first reading your post a couple days ago) you have both shoulders at relatively the same height, and your arms cross directly in front of you in a rectangular shield.

That... That's a really good point. Why haven't I thought of that... Gah, that's gonna be harder to work on than my voice (I move like a robot drill sergeant ).

... Though I could just go for the tough look... Eh, I could take that or leave it. :shrug:

Eh, it's all about action economy. You'd till only get one action per round, regardless of target gender.

The extra HD and free Dexterity bonus really tip the scales, though. Especially if you're playing a Ranger and took Weapon Finesse...

Yikes. That does sound rather depressing
On the upside, as folks continue to age, the number of people with hard, irrevocable stances in utter opposition decreases. That's... Kinda positive. Morbid, but positive!

Not in Illinois... 70's belief structures don't mix very well with 90's flippancy, I tell you. :/

Gay psychics? I'll have to look into that. What would this story be called?

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What's that? Locked thread? Like that's gonna stop me.

My money's on Best Story Ever.

The way this is phrased is hilarious, thank you

I still need to download that game... But there are so many numbers in my head. But it sounds fun... But I wanna divide things... :dilemma:

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I hate to open up this can of worms again, but can we stop calling Sun a troll please? Sure, they didn't introduce themselves into the thread in a way very likely to produce a warm welcoming, but the loathing that some of you seem to be expressing makes me rather uncomfortable. I won't make any judgements on the game, not having played it, but some of the concerns Sun raised are valid (whether or not they apply to the game is a separate issue), and while I don't think Sun handled it entirely appropriately, screaming "Troll! Troll!" isn't exactly appropriate either.

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I'll have to agree with Nix... S/he may have just generalized as soon as s/he read the word "eroge". People seem to do that a lot. :/

It's not really fair in the company of people who'd be offended by something offensive, but it got pretty personal... *hugs Sun if s/he wasn't a troll and is reading this*

Also *hugs Triscuitable*. Hope things haven't gotten too weird on you.

[Heliomance]

In class in girl mode again. Forgot that this class has someone in it that I know more than in passing yet not well enough to predict what she thinks of such things. Currently hoping she didn't notice due to my coat :s

[Rappy]

In class in girl mode again. Forgot that this class has someone in it that I know more than in passing yet not well enough to predict what she thinks of such things. Currently hoping she didn't notice due to my coat :s

Best of luck to you. While you are ultimately trying for androgyny rather than trans* status, I still consider you pretty darn brave to do what you're doing.

[Heliomance]

Best of luck to you. While you are ultimately trying for androgyny rather than trans* status, I still consider you pretty darn brave to do what you're doing.

It's a lot easier for me than it would be for many people. I apparently pass well enough that strangers don't give me a second glance, and my primary friendship group already contains two or three trans folk, and as far as I can tell doesn't think it's any more noteworthy than a new haircut.

[The Succubus]

Can I ask you a deeply personal question?

Do you have a trillby like the one your avatar has? Because the next time you post a piccie of yourself, you should wear one. I reckon you'd look good in it.

[Heliomance]

Can I ask you a deeply personal question?

Do you have a trillby like the one your avatar has? Because the next time you post a piccie of yourself, you should wear one. I reckon you'd look good in it.

I've lost it :(

But yes, my avatar is based off a real photo of me. I like hats.

[Asta Kask]

Broken record - I'm feeling worse and won't be posting much over the next week or so.

[noparlpf]

Broken record - I'm feeling worse and won't be posting much over the next week or so.

:<
Feel better soon! *hug*