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2012-06-12, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [Welknair Update/Game Idea] Fourth Land
Alright, my votes as to questions:
What are the names and equivalent concepts of the following energies: 3, 5, 6, 7, 8?
What are the cycles, explained in the most straight-forward manner that you possibly can achieve, without the answer being a variation of the sentiment "I can't tell you"?
I can't think of any others, but here are initial, small loop-hole questions.
The first is phrased the way it is just in case a given Energy has a confusing name, or he obfuscates a given name.
The second is phrased in such a way that he can't answer with a riddle .
I am assuming for the purpose of these questions that nothing Welknair reveals to us will be a lie by addition, with his answers being limited to the truth and lies of omission. Are these correct surmises?
(Note: The last question in this post is not about Fourthland itself, and therefor is not included in the 4 questions we get to ask you.)
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2012-06-12, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Energy question: I think I ought to put a rule in place that you cannot have multi-part questions. If I don't, you'd be able to string as many as you like together. If you want to know the identities of all those energies, you'll need a separate question for each. Or I suppose you could try a more creative wording in an attempt to get me to reveal information on more than one.
Truthfullness: This is entirely correct. I said at the start of this that I will be entirely truthful, but will maintain the power to limit my responses to a degree I see fitting.
Not a question: Fully bold any question you're voting for. You ought only do this when you have the wording worked out to a point your satisfied with and so on. This ought to help clear up any confusion or worry about me accidentally answering one of your questions you didn't intend me to.
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2012-06-12, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [Welknair Update/Game Idea] Fourth Land
Would the question about the cycles I worded earlier: "What is the significance of the Grand, Mother and Father Cycles?" apply to this ruling?
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2012-06-12, 10:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-12, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [Welknair Update/Game Idea] Fourth Land
For the energies obviously thefirst 8 would be the most important for us to know at this point since we all I am sure are already trying to create characters in our head. So perhaps a variation on the wording of "what are the first 8 energies"
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2012-06-12, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-06-12, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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True enough. I thought of that but wanted to see my wiggle room anyway. Speaking of wiggle room, can we assume you will answer in english, and not some other language such as bianary, fictional, ?
"What are the cycles" could lead to him answering with a list of the cycles. As Sam said, I think we should be following the "What is the significance" venture...How about: "How would you explain the significance of the Grand, Father and Mother Cycles in the Fourthland omniverse to one who does not know anything about them?"Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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2012-06-12, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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2012-06-12, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmm. Point. So folks! We need to decide whether we want what each is or how the 8 energies work to create a creature (since they represent the stats so that's their basic concept).
Or we'll need to be more specific. What if it were something like: "If I were to use each energy one by one, what would be the result of each in turn?" Or: "What would be good examples of manipulating each of the 12 energies."Last edited by TheWombatOfDoom; 2012-06-12 at 12:42 PM.
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Perhaps it is too broad, but my arguement is I ask not what the identity is, I just want an example of how I could manipulate each one. Though he could be very vague, such as for 11th - Steal the moon. Well that tells me nothing.
...I think I just invalidated my own arguement. Excellent. Moving on, I'm with Sam. However, perhaps we can specify things a bit more, so that we don't get a broad answer.
I wonder if he'll be answering per agreed one or all four at once. I think if it's the latter it might be wise to save the second two in case the first two inspire further questions.Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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2012-06-12, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Splitting the questions works because both are highly important questions.
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2012-06-12, 10:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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*ahem*
"In regards to the first eight energies, what would be the result of the most common/direct manipulation of each?"
Perhaps that would work? Also, I would definitely like to know more about shapes.Last edited by Dimonite; 2012-06-12 at 10:51 PM.
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2012-06-13, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, gents. It seems we have four potential questions. I wanted to wait for other fourthland "veterans" to put in their two sense, since they've been around awhile, so I'm going to propose one that has not been argued:
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How would you explain the significance of the Grand, Father and Mother Cycles in the Fourthland omniverse to one who does not know anything about them?Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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Magic: The Stuff of Sentience | Fate: The Fabric of Physics | Luck: The Basis of Biology
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Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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Magic: The Stuff of Sentience | Fate: The Fabric of Physics | Luck: The Basis of Biology
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How would you explain the significance of the Grand, Father and Mother Cycles in the Fourthland omniverse to one who does not know anything about them?Avatar by serpentine
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2012-06-14, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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DING DING DING DING! First question issued:
How would you explain the significance of the Grand, Father and Mother Cycles in the Fourthland omniverse to one who does not know anything about them?
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2012-06-15, 06:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think we could have gotten more out of that other than asking about the cycles as a whole. Even then - the answer would have likely been even more general than the current one. I'm pleased with the result.
Interestingly enough, while he mentions Full coming after Mother, it's Tick on the line up of ten (tick,tock,click,clack,so on). Not sure, but since he speaks of existence and non, perhaps the converse of each cycle is the non. Tick's converse is Tock. So maybe Full Cycle and then Empty? I wonder what the differences are to each. Haha. Questions always lead to questions, and I think these we won't find answers to without sacrificing some of the other causes.
On a related note, I love that he Dinged four times.
(EDIT: I now also think I understand his "bianary" hint, where "10" is repeated over and over)
So...what are we asking next?Last edited by TheWombatOfDoom; 2012-06-15 at 06:52 AM. Reason: added thought.
Scientific Name: Wombous apocolypticus | Diet: Apocolypse Pie | Cuddly: Yes
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2012-06-15, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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EPIC!
We also can generally look at the question and answer as precedent for Welk's answers.
What now?