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    Well, we don't know for sure but I feel that if she was a trans guy (or someone non-binary) the conversation would have been a bit more detailed than "I'm trans". But we'll see.
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    In retrospect, I find Martin's reaction odd. Not because it was inappropriate -- it was almost perfect, really. But because he's Martin. I would've expected something closer to the Marigold-swimsuit fiasco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    In retrospect, I find Martin's reaction odd. Not because it was inappropriate -- it was almost perfect, really. But because he's Martin. I would've expected something closer to the Marigold-swimsuit fiasco.
    I actually think he nailed the reaction for marten. I mean think about it. First of all, he was brought up pretty accepting. His dad is gay and his mom is a world famous dominatrix. His friends include all sorts of sexual orientation, mental issues, and odd habits. He has had to be pretty flexible to do as well as he has.
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    Hm... I won't go into too much detail but as well Marten handled the situation... is he not the least bit curious? I mean, I would be curious. I'm not sure if it would be inappropriate (okay, I guess it was) but I would like to know at least a few things apart from: I'm trans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    In retrospect, I find Martin's reaction odd. Not because it was inappropriate -- it was almost perfect, really. But because he's Martin. I would've expected something closer to the Marigold-swimsuit fiasco.
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    Hm... I won't go into too much detail but as well Marten handled the situation... is he not the least bit curious? I mean, I would be curious. I'm not sure if it would be inappropriate (okay, I guess it was) but I would like to know at least a few things apart from: I'm trans.
    Well, he's also tired and probably more than a little drunk.

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    A presumption that someone who was old enough to be a grad student would have enough years on them to be somewhere along the transition process rather than not yet started upon it.
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    Well, we don't know for sure but I feel that if she was a trans guy (or someone non-binary) the conversation would have been a bit more detailed than "I'm trans". But we'll see.
    I assumed that also. She's more than old enough to have transitioned. Even if her parents objected, getting started at 18 would give her 6 years. It doesn't take that long does it? I don't know much about the process involved.

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    Well, he's also tired and probably more than a little drunk.
    Yeah, this. He usually does better when he's buzzed. It also probably helps that he really legitimately does want to go inside before the noisy make-out starts.
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    I'm a little confused, but is he a female to male transsexual who hasn't started the process much or is she a male to female transsexual who is (mostly?) transitioned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    I actually think he nailed the reaction for marten. I mean think about it. First of all, he was brought up pretty accepting. His dad is gay and his mom is a world famous dominatrix. His friends include all sorts of sexual orientation, mental issues, and odd habits. He has had to be pretty flexible to do as well as he has.
    Oh... I'm sure he is...

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    I'm disappointed that there's no joke yet about how, if one sibling has a robot hand, the other must then have a robotic, er, you know.

    Also reminds me of this.
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    I'm disappointed that there's no joke yet about how, if one sibling has a robot hand, the other must then have a robotic, er, you know.

    Also reminds me of this.
    A robotic foot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    I'm disappointed that there's no joke yet about how, if one sibling has a robot hand, the other must then have a robotic, er, you know.

    Also reminds me of this.
    That is a awesome clip right there. They whole way through I kept going "why is it titled Iran? that doesn't even seem remotely related."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    I'm disappointed that there's no joke yet about how, if one sibling has a robot hand, the other must then have a robotic, er, you know.

    Also reminds me of this.
    Eh, I'm not really. It's not like 99% of trans* portrayals out there don't obsess about genitals already. >.>

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    I assumed that also. She's more than old enough to have transitioned. Even if her parents objected, getting started at 18 would give her 6 years. It doesn't take that long does it? I don't know much about the process involved.
    Eh, it depends from person to person, but HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) will have the most drastic outwardly visible changes during the first twoish years.
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    Oh. Someone already mentioned that possibility. Not that I'm suggesting Claire would have robotic genitals or anything. Don't imagine they'd be very popular. You probably wouldn't even get to feel anything.

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    But what I was interested in was . . . Seeing the kind of robot hand her brother has, or the more humanoid models of AnthroPC, or even the fact that in the QC Earth they've already reached one of the most boring Singularities ever . . . Well . . . I can't help but wonder how different the MTF or FTM process is in QC Earth.

    In light of this revelation . . . I will tentatively hold to my original reaction at Claire's introduction. That being, "Hell yes! Another glasses girl!"

    Though Emily is currently my favorite of the new girl's just for being so damn amusing.

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    If she is a male to female, her brother is a better brother than we gave him credit for. A complete lackwit would have mentioned it in some fashion by now, probably in an incredibly insensitive fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    If she is a male to female, her brother is a better brother than we gave him credit for. A complete lackwit would have mentioned it in some fashion by now, probably in an incredibly insensitive fashion.
    A complete lackwit would have done so in an incredibly insensitive fashion regardless of whether she were male to female or if he were female to male. Not sure why it would matter which.
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    A complete lackwit would have done so in an incredibly insensitive fashion regardless of whether she were male to female or if he were female to male. Not sure why it would matter which.
    Yeah, that came out wrong. Still, the fact he didn't mention it either means a) he is more sensitive than other events indicate or b) the author only recently thought of this.
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    Yeah, that came out wrong. Still, the fact he didn't mention it either means a) he is more sensitive than other events indicate or b) the author only recently thought of this.
    I'd imagine Claire would've stressed that he'd not talk about this to everyone. Also adds another dimension to her being worried about him saying anything 'weird' in this one. And not to start about her last line in this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    Yeah, that came out wrong. Still, the fact he didn't mention it either means a) he is more sensitive than other events indicate or b) the author only recently thought of this.
    Especially since she had no problem making up a nice embarrassing story about how he lost his hand. I dunno if I could have resisted firing back after that. *EDIT* "Oh yeah? Well at least in my case its just a HAND ive had removed."
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    How old are people usually when they go to college in the US? I assume 18, in which case Clinton was 15 when Claire started transitioning. He's had plenty of time to adjust to the idea.
    Oh, and that's the "direction" confirmed, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    If she is a male to female, her brother is a better brother than we gave him credit for. A complete lackwit would have mentioned it in some fashion by now, probably in an incredibly insensitive fashion.
    Claire did say that even though he's a jerk sometimes, Clinton IS a pretty good brother.

    It might also be mental outlook. Clint might regard his brother's turn to the female side with shame, confusion, approval, or even as something unimportant, like getting vaccinated. Under those circumstances throwing it in her face, in public, might not occur to him...

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    But they don't mention if she is pre- or post-op.. don't they?

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    I don't think that's really relevant? Cis people aren't expected to reveal everything about their genitals so there's little reason why trans* people should~
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    Err... yeah. Not jumping into the question of "so what exactly is going on in your pants?" was probably the number one thing that Jeff picked up from all that research he mentioned doing.

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    Err... yeah. Not jumping into the question of "so what exactly is going on in your pants?" was probably the number one thing that Jeff picked up from all that research he mentioned doing.
    Just because the author knows better, doesn't mean his characters do.

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    Though as evidenced by recent events, there are an unfortunately large number of people who can't distinguish between the author and their characters.

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    I don't think that's really relevant? Cis people aren't expected to reveal everything about their genitals so there's little reason why trans* people should~
    To be honest, I had to think about this for a little bit, but I agree. Just as long as it is clear enough what their gender identity is, I don't really care. Otherwise I'd be likely to get confused, and awkward with use of pronouns. Claire is clear with this, as her name suggests.

    I wonder what her birth name was though... do trans people have "patterns" in name choices? Like, does their new name often resemble their old one, for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morph Bark View Post
    To be honest, I had to think about this for a little bit, but I agree. Just as long as it is clear enough what their gender identity is, I don't really care. Otherwise I'd be likely to get confused, and awkward with use of pronouns. Claire is clear with this, as her name suggests.

    I wonder what her birth name was though... do trans people have "patterns" in name choices? Like, does their new name often resemble their old one, for example?
    It depends from person to person; some people go with the feminine / masculine version of their given name. Others ask their parents what they would have been named if they had been a different gender. But tons of people just pick a new name they like. I went with a altered version of what I would've been called had I been assigned female at birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrella View Post
    I don't think that's really relevant? Cis people aren't expected to reveal everything about their genitals so there's little reason why trans* people should~
    I think, that Commander Badass summed it up the best. Private parts are called that for a reason.
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    You know, not all Trans people have surgery. It's an option, but not an obligation.

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