Metal Thread VII: The Mosh Pit Don't Start 'Til We Walk In

[grimbold]

Spoiler

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Battle 1
Dream Theater-Scenes from a Memory

Battle 2
Slayer - Reign In Blood

Battle 3
11 Iced Earth - Horror Show

Battle 4
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

battle 2 made me die a little inside

fortunately i'm going to be INTERVIEWING PAUL MASVIDAL
FROM CYNIC AND MOTHERHUGGING DEATH!

[Nomrom]

My votes

1. Scenes From a Memory
2. Paranoid
3. Blackwater Park
4. Holy Diver

fortunately i'm going to be INTERVIEWING PAUL MASVIDAL
FROM CYNIC AND MOTHERHUGGING DEATH!

That's awesome. Apparently I should be reading your blog. It's seems to be doing quite well for itself.

[Kindablue]

I've never gotten all the way through a Dream Theater album, so I'm skipping the first one.

2. Reign in Blood
3. Blackwater Park
4. The Number of the Beast

[Halberd]

My votes:

Spoiler

Show

Battle 1:
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory
Battle 2:
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Battle 3:
Iced Earth - Horror Show
Battle 4:
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast

My votes are the same as these.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

Battle 1
08 Tiamat - Wildhoney (1994)

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid (1970)

Battle 3
LOL how did those albums make it this far...

Battle 4
05 Dio - Holy Diver (1983)

[eyeofsaulot]

Battle 3
LOL how did those albums make it this far...

While I love Opeth, I understand that the Opeth hatewagon is something people love to jump on. I think the main reason it made it past the first round is because it went up against a fairly unknown album. I feel like in a lot of these cases, people are voting for the album they know instead of checking out the one they don't to give it a fair shake. Really, how many of you actually checked out Altar, Mabool, or the Agalloch albums? I'm giving you a whole week to vote and YouTube is a click away!

Ahem. /soapbox

As far as Horror Show is concerned, I voted for it because my fiancee's and my mutual ownership of Horror Show is what first got her interested in me. So, y'know, there's a bit of sentimental value in it for me. But honestly, I have no idea how it didn't get crushed by a classic like Powerslave.

[Feytalist]

I actually knew all of the round 1 albums beforehand, so I could make an informed decision. The problem is choosing my personal favourites instead of the objectively more influential album (if that is even possible, heh).

Take Blackwater Park v Horror Show; Blackwater Park is probably the better album, all other things being equal. But Horror Show was the album that actually got me hooked on metal, so it's hard not to be sentimental towards it.

Scenes v Wildhoney, though. I've heard it said of both that they are of the best, if not the best metal albums ever produced. And they're up against each other. For shame.


And I'm surprised Mabool or at least one Agalloch album didn't survive the first round.

[RebelRogue]

Yeah #2 is really tough (and makes me realize I totally forgot Black Sabbth on my top 10 - it's one of those bands you just take for granted). Slayer marginally wins for me, since I actually think Paranoid is a relatively weak SB album (heavy emphasis on relative here: it's still awesome overall, of course).

Spoiler

Show

Battle 1
01 Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory (1999)

Battle 2
07 Slayer - Reign In Blood (1986)

Battle 3
03 Opeth - Blackwater Park (2001)

Battle 4
04 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)

[eyeofsaulot]

Take Blackwater Park v Horror Show; Blackwater Park is probably the better album, all other things being equal. But Horror Show was the album that actually got me hooked on metal, so it's hard not to be sentimental towards it.

I suppose there's a good chance an easily accessible power metal album from 2001 would be among the earliest metal albums a bunch of metalheads (mostly) in their early-to-mid 20s would have bought, giving Horror Show a solid chance for a high number of those 'sentimental value' votes.

And I'm surprised Mabool or at least one Agalloch album didn't survive the first round.

I get that Ashes wasn't going to beat out Paranoid and that Mabool wasn't going to sneak past Number even if fair shakes were given, but it's a shame The Mantle didn't make it past Holy Diver and the first round. Maybe it lost because of sentimental 'RIP Dio' votes.

The biggest surprise to me is Wildhoney's survival, even though it technically wasn't an upset. I thought this thread's high population of melodeath fans indicated a beatdown of the Tiamat album. Even so, the only reason it won was because I seeded albums by seniority once it got down to 'two vote' albums and Wildhoney was released 2 years before The Jester Race, making the tie in favor of Tiamat.

[WhamBamSam]

While I love Opeth, I understand that the Opeth hatewagon is something people love to jump on. I think the main reason it made it past the first round is because it went up against a fairly unknown album. I feel like in a lot of these cases, people are voting for the album they know instead of checking out the one they don't to give it a fair shake. Really, how many of you actually checked out Altar, Mabool, or the Agalloch albums? I'm giving you a whole week to vote and YouTube is a click away!

I've heard everything off of Mabool at least a few times before, and I would say that it's weaker than The Never Ending Way of Orwarrior, and certainly won't overcome my love for Number of the Beast. I've tried to get into Agalloch on several occasions, and just can't do it. As for Sunn O))) and Boris, well, yeah...

As for Horror Show, I'd say it stands up pretty well on its own merits. No, I don't think it's as good as Powerslave, but I do think it's better than Blackwater Park, Paranoid, and Reign in Blood put together* so at this point I'm rooting for it to make the finals.

Similarly, I'd argue that Holy Diver is a legitimate classic independent of any sentimental attachment to Dio himself.

*I actually really like Blackwater Park, and view Paranoid favorably, but still.

[grimbold]

My votes


That's awesome. Apparently I should be reading your blog. It's seems to be doing quite well for itself.

you should :P
also
check out faultys \m/

[Faulty]

My blog hasn't been touched in a while.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

Wintersun... is touring North America... and for some unknown reason, they're ACTUALLY COMING TO MY CITY!!!!!!1!!!one!!! Holy ****ing ****, I'm actually going to see Wintersun live....



Speaking of which, I don't think it is possible for Time 1 to meet my unreasonably high expectations. Whatever, at least I'll be able to see them perform Winter Madness live.

[Feytalist]

Speaking of which, I don't think it is possible for Time 1 to meet my unreasonably high expectations.

Same here. Although if they do manage to stay on the same level as the first album, it will be really kinda awesome. Like I said earlier, I still have faith in Jari. For now. Heh.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

Same here. Although if they do manage to stay on the same level as the first album, it will be really kinda awesome. Like I said earlier, I still have faith in Jari. For now. Heh.

I don't know, I listened to the teaser for one of the tracks, and it looks like it might have what I call 'Nightfall in Middle Earth Syndrome(tm).' That's when the music is completely overproduced, the vocals are too layered, and there's so much orchestration that you can't even hear the riffs (if there are any). From what I heard, it just seemed super symphonic. Although, to be fair, I can't really tell from a 20 second clip.

[Faulty]

You should review an Anaal Nathrakh album to get it going again (supposing you're interested in maintaining the blog in the first place). I'm actually rather interested in hearing your take on them.

I like some of AN's material. What's your favorite album of theirs?

[grimbold]

so interview with paul masividal went really well
i have it transcribed i just need his approval to post it


also
i did a charity comp thing with my blog
find out more here:
http://twoguysmetalreviews.blogspot....d-charity.html

[Killer Angel]

I don't know, I listened to the teaser for one of the tracks, and it looks like it might have what I call 'Nightfall in Middle Earth Syndrome(tm).' That's when the music is completely overproduced, the vocals are too layered, and there's so much orchestration that you can't even hear the riffs (if there are any). From what I heard, it just seemed super symphonic. Although, to be fair, I can't really tell from a 20 second clip.

IMO, that's more "A Night at the Opera".

[Feytalist]

IMO, that's more "A Night at the Opera".

That's what I was thinking, yeah. Nightfall was a bit more reserved. By Blind Guardian's standards, anyway.

I'm actually fine with über-orchestration (I like Therion, after all). I'll withhold judgement until I can listen to the whole album.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

That's what I was thinking, yeah. Nightfall was a bit more reserved. By Blind Guardian's standards, anyway.

I'm actually fine with über-orchestration (I like Therion, after all). I'll withhold judgement until I can listen to the whole album.

Yeah, I'm sort of on the 'radical puritan' side of BG fans (my favorite albums are Somewhere far Beyond and Battalions of Fear), but I see how Night at the Opera works as an analogy as well.

Also, that seems perfectly reasonable, and I was more using this as an opportunity to bash Nightfall than anything else. I can't really know what Time will sound like at all, but knowing Jari, it'll be good.


On an entirely separate note, are there any Voivod fans in the Playground? I've been sort of getting into them lately. So far I have listened to Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross and Nothingface, and they are all excellent in different ways. Also I just like spacey sounding riffs, and there's not enough of them in metal :)

[grimbold]

so
2 great metal stories from today

1. a girl asked me what kind of music i listen too..

DEATH METAL

"you don't look like someone into that kind of thing"

*Shows slayer belt buckle*
"Babe, half of my t-shirts have been banned from this school... i still have scars from a pit i was in last MONTH, i F***ing know metal"

...she was duly shocked...


also
in philosophy

teacher asks "Name a piece of world news from this summer"
*picks me*
"um.... there's gunna be new Pig Destroyer?"
.
... that was literally all i could think of...


i think i need help

[Killer Angel]

On an entirely separate note, are there any Voivod fans in the Playground? I've been sort of getting into them lately. So far I have listened to Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross and Nothingface, and they are all excellent in different ways. Also I just like spacey sounding riffs, and there's not enough of them in metal :)

One of my BBEG (an old AD&D campaign) was named Korgull The Exterminator.
I'm not a BIG fan, but yeah.

I'm confused, why is that weird?

...the teacher needed to ask?

[grimbold]

I'm confused, why is that weird?

because APPARENTLY the arrival of new pig destroyer music is not something the whole world gets excited for...

speaking of which... i need a good article for tomorrow for school... hrmm OFF TO METALSUCKS

[Moff Chumley]

Just droppin by to remind everyone to listen to Blues for the Red Sun by Kyuss at the next possible opportunity.

[grimbold]

THIS
is the most metal/adorable thing i have seen in a while

[eyeofsaulot]

Sorry for the delay, guys. I've been kinda busy.

Here are your Round 2 Results:

Spoiler

Show

Battle 1
01 Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory (1999) VS (6 votes)
08 Tiamat - Wildhoney (1994) (5 votes)

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid (1970) VS (7 votes)
07 Slayer - Reign In Blood (1986) (5 votes)

Battle 3
03 Opeth - Blackwater Park (2001) VS (4 votes)
11 Iced Earth - Horror Show (2001) (6 votes)

Battle 4
04 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982) VS (8 votes)
05 Dio - Holy Diver (1983) (4 votes)

Round 3: (vote by Sunday, September 16, 11:59pm cst)

Spoiler

Show

Battle 1
01 Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory (1999) VS
04 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid (1970) VS
11 Iced Earth - Horror Show (2001)

[grimbold]

all easy choices this round!

Battle 1
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid

[cleric_of_BANJO]

all easy choices this round!

Battle 1
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid

Seconded. This is by far the easiest round, and my choices are the same.

[WhamBamSam]

Battle 1
04 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)

Battle 2
11 Iced Earth - Horror Show (2001)

[Nomrom]

Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory

Iced Earth - Horror Show