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2012-12-23, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-23, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Morph, since you're right now handling all the multitude of Fighter fixes, does that mean you'll do the same to another favored target of aspiring 'brewers (that being the Monk)? I distinctly recall a mild compromise to tackle the Retooled Monk v2.0, and doing it in the scope of all other Monk fixes would be interesting. It might also imply the Paladin will also see a light, being the third most commonly fixed class.
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2012-12-23, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Morph should do wizard fixes next. Maybe start on page one of this thread and do the one someone posted there. *hint hint, wink wink*
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2012-12-23, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-23, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
You know, you can review my Fighter fix...
I didn't go any of the ordinary paths, I don't think...
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2012-12-24, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I beat the trend of doing fighter fixes, and have had mine for a while.
I did a different take on the problem.My Homebrew: found here.
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2012-12-25, 05:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Christmas has arrived, so the next bits on Fighter Fixes will have to wait a while.
I very well might, and at least will consider it. However, while I try to be objective in the Tiering of a class, I'm very much subjective in picking what to Tier. Generally, Fixes aren't really my thing (hence why there haven't been that many Tiered yet, despite there being so many), largely because it's much of the same. Considering Monks, I'll probably tackle them all together someday (though I will first have to gone through some more martial arts training, but I've got that planned for 2013 anyway!). Likely though, it won't be so soon.
I've sorta-kinda already decided on the next two or three special features, so those will be first in line. At least one of them is a prominent homebrewer, and another is a very big and controversial project. Stay tuned!
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2012-12-26, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Let’s examine the “awkwardly presented” issue.
Ok, noted to add level association inside all descriptions.
What do you mean by “former” and “latter”?
My reading comprehension is considered quite decent, but I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
Also, “quick-and-dirty” is the last thing you could say about Warcraft. I put a lot of thought about appropriate levels and desired modifications. whatever's not mentioned is to be taken from the official descriptions. that's not laziness - that's avoiding overtaxing the eyes with already known details.
As for “unoriginal” – hey, if it’s working, why not use it?
In concept, Combat Focus is not even remotely tied to Rage.
It does not involve anger or inner conviction.
On the contrary. It involves coolheadedness, battlefield awareness and combat wisdom.
It has two aspects: one of vigilance, the other of superior offense.
While the two are not mutually exclusive, they're not tied either.
No way you read this one correct if that’s your conclusion.
That list conveys a certain feel that I believe I’ve managed to convey,
Ok… so as to not hog this thread, please take this to my Warrior thread and show me how my proposed class fails in any way to address the Fighter’s issues (break it down to level-by-level if you feel like it)
1. … Combat Focus along with all other features (Warcraft, feats, talents, skills…).
2. Regarding the bolded text – I’m always open to to explanations and suggestions. By all means.
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2012-12-29, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I've been Tiered! This is a nice Christmas present.
I do have some other classes to present. If you're pressed for time and need to prioritize, I'd recommend the following as the most interesting and/or useful:
- Magus of Blades (new class)
- Soulcrafter (soulknife fix)
- Summoner (new class or sorcerer/wizard fix)
- Monk Remix (monk fix)
- Knight-Paladin (knight fix, paladin fix)
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2012-12-30, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
My fix wasn't really tiered, all you did was mention it as an example for Fighter fixes with archetypes.
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2012-12-30, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Hey, this is a cool thread! Would you mind tiering these two classes I made? It'd be much appreciated.
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2013-01-07, 03:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
So, clearly I haven't been up to business in this thread this year so far yet, since Christmas even actually, and that is because through the holiday and after it I've gotten occupied with a good few other things that require my attention, so I won't be up to it to do the rest of the big Fighter Fix thing anytime soon. I was going to do a handful of Minmaxboards' fixes, then some of the King of Fighter Fixes', then maybe some I missed, then follow up with a conclusion maybe, though that last bit would come too close to attempting a Fix myself and that's entirely not my thing.
Considering I'm currently working on artifacts for my campaign setting here and here, my first thought was "let's just throw some artifacts at those Fighters and let them fix themselves with those", but obviously that wouldn't work.
In the meantime, you can check out this small list of Fighter Fixes I'd forgotten, though there are many, many more Fighter Fixes out there, and they just... they're just too numerous! I can't list them all or go in depth about them all!
At any rate, I'll be continuing on with Tiering at it's previous, easy pace and will tackle some of the other requests that may have popped up here or there. Onwards!
I could attempt to address these points if it wouldn't be thread necromancy, so that'd have to be fixed the usual way.Last edited by Morph Bark; 2013-01-08 at 05:57 PM.
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2013-01-07, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
So Morph, I thought I'd let you know - I finally started on Harrowed 5.0.
You folks will get a link the moment it's done.
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2013-01-11, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I'm pretty sure the stuff in the standalone thread is all up to date.
Sorry about that, guys. The Animorph stuff, which I expect to be put under "variant" because it depends so much on what morph options are available or sought out.
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2013-01-23, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I've been thinking of expanding the subsystems bit with lists of PrCs made for specific subsystems. Not including those made for spellcasters (aside from homebrew systems, such as spellshaping) and psionics, but including ToB, incarnum, binding, shadowcasting and truenaming, and of course, primarily, homebrew subsystems. What do you guys think?
Of course, considering how PrCs are much more common, and considering they're meant to only be a small part of this, I wouldn't be so much Tiering them as judging general quality (if belonging to official subsystems) or simply including them on the list if made for a homebrew subsystem or homebrew class (I know the Ozodrin has tons of them, and yes, I'm gonna Tier it).Last edited by Morph Bark; 2013-01-23 at 08:50 AM.
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2013-01-23, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
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2013-01-23, 04:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
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2013-01-24, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I'm hoping some people at least will link me to those Ozodrin PrCs, because they're quite spread out from what I remember.
Mostly I'm afraid to do ToB PrCs, as there are so. Darn. Many.
(Hence the restating of quality control.)
You can't spread too thin that which is of infinite thickness!
...wait.
Also added PairO'Dice Lost's Divine Champion to Tier 3.Last edited by Morph Bark; 2013-01-24 at 12:58 PM.
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2013-01-24, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Hmm... had an idea for a class based on a cross between a space marine dreadnaught and a cyborg, and thinking of giving him lots of abilities which work in a similar manner to spells, and represent the systems in the machine. The trouble is, if they're (Ex) it could easily make the class a Tier -1 whenever there's an antimagic field handy, ready to fight that beholder mage without breaking a sweat. If they're (Su), it won't be able to cope with wizards and psychic warriors, or even sorcerers or inquisitors.
Suggestions?
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2013-01-24, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Hey Morph, wanna tier the Ætherforge? I'm guessing mid-high tier 3, or possibly tier 2 depending on what you consider "game-breaking"
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2013-01-24, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Recent Homebrew: The Socialite | The Crystalline: Memory Altering Construct Race | Sanguine Hand, a ToB Discipline of blood and cruelty
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2013-01-24, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-26, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-26, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Morph, you think you could take a look at my sage?
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26693078% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
Where did you start yours?
The PCs were already a special forces type unit in a kingdom's military, so the campaign started in the general's office.
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2013-01-26, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I know you are already tired of Fighter Fixes, but I tried to follow your advices and made changes to it, I would like your opinion again, and if anyone can give me better wording I would appreciate it. English is not my main language and I'm not good at it.
Here is it again. Korney's Fighter Fix.
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Also, I have an idea for a homebrew that goes arround awakening latent golem powers and/or crafting and improving a golem armor. Something arround Dragon Disciples but with Incarnated Construct blood.
You guys are the ones that most homebrew have seen. Is there anything like this already? I can only find a class about a psychic armor and one about making yourself a warforged..
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2013-01-26, 10:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
I've been tiered! And I have the honor of creating the first tier 6! With the Gamechanger tag no less.
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2013-01-27, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
No longer an issue.
The thread has been revived by the OP (yours truly).
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2013-02-02, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Morph Bark's Homebrew Tier Compendium
Hmmm... so since this thread has been revived, can I throw one of my classes in here to be tiered?
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2013-02-02, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-03, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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