MS Paint Adventures 7: At the Price of Oblivion

[super dark33]

Dat geromy tattoo.

[Zejety]

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Caliborn's progress as an artist is actually pretty scary if we assume that it showcases his ability to improve himself with effort.

[PhantomFox]

Is it me, or are these pesterlogs getting bloated? I often find myself wishing I could skim them and get the point that way.

[Oracle_Hunter]

Is it me, or are these pesterlogs getting bloated? I often find myself wishing I could skim them and get the point that way.

Pesterlogs have always been bloated -- in that they are long and sparse with detail just like real chats.

At least we don't have to deal with any obnoxious quirks for these most recent ones. The ones with the more obnoxious quirks (e.g. Terezi) always gave me headaches.

[super dark33]

Pesterlogs have always been bloated -- in that they are long and sparse with detail just like real chats.

At least we don't have to deal with any obnoxious quirks for these most recent ones. The ones with the more obnoxious quirks (e.g. Terezi) always gave me headaches.

Terezi, Feferi, Gamzee and somtimes Vriska when you couldnt know what role the 8 was supposed to be.

[Cavelcade]

Feferi and Eridan were the only ones that annoyed me after a while, I got used to just reading the others, but the repeated letters of Eridan and the annoying substitutions of Feferi (possibly just not seeing her enough, too) got to me.

[Shadow of the Sun]

Be happy that there are no Mituna based pesterlogs.

[The_Final_Stand]

I'm going to call it now: While Caliborn's JuJu is uROBuROS, Calliope's jUjU will be UrobUros.

Other things of note: That's an actual gold tooth, like Lord English, and it would appear that the Uu world is in fact Post Scratch Earth specifically, owing to the presence of scorched Lil' Cal, and rusted Lil' Seb, meaning that whatever force moved the planet did so after the kids entered.

[Ninja Dragon]

I've started reading Homestuck a couple days ago. Well, I'm still not sure if this thing is as good as people say it is, but it has got potential. I've just finished act 3, and the ending was awesome. This comic just keeps getting better and better.

I mean, assuming it is a comic, because the author seems to be trying to find out how far one can deviate from a genre while still telling a good story.

[Teln]

I've started reading Homestuck a couple days ago. Well, I'm still not sure if this thing is as good as people say it is, but it has got potential. I've just finished act 3, and the ending was awesome. This comic just keeps getting better and better.

I mean, assuming it is a comic, because the author seems to be trying to find out how far one can deviate from a genre while still telling a good story.

End of Act...3? *goes archive trawling* Oh. OH. Rose just entered the Medium, and John just went through the first gate. You wonderfully lucky man. I know it seems like you've fallen so far down the rabbit hole, but you've got no idea just how much farther it is to the bottom. You have been reading the pesterlogs, right? They help you understand oh so very much.

Fair warning, the next part of the story can get a little hard to follow. Hussie was experimenting with integrating time travel into a coherent narrative. It's quite entertaining, and the Intermission is canonical, even if it doesn't seem like it at first. Plummet as slowly as you like, savor the trip, stop and smell the subtext. You only fall in love with Homestuck once.

Apologies for rambling on like that, I haven't slept in like a day and a half.

[Anarion]

I've started reading Homestuck a couple days ago. Well, I'm still not sure if this thing is as good as people say it is, but it has got potential. I've just finished act 3, and the ending was awesome. This comic just keeps getting better and better.

I mean, assuming it is a comic, because the author seems to be trying to find out how far one can deviate from a genre while still telling a good story.

Read everything. Don't worry if half of it doesn't make sense, but read everything. Yes, even the insane trolls that typ3 l1k3 th1s 4ll th3 t1m3.

End of Act...3? *goes archive trawling* Oh. OH. Jane just entered the Medium,

You mean Jade.

[Squark]

You mean Jade.

Actually, he means Rose, considering It's Act 3. Jade won't be entering for... well, in case Ninja Dragon reads it, a while yet.

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Act 5 Act 2, specifically

[Teln]

Yeah, I meant Rose. Typed the wrong name due to lack of sleep.

[RebelRogue]

I'm going to call it now: While Caliborn's JuJu is uROBuROS, Calliope's jUjU will be UrobUros.

Good call

[Anarion]

Actually, he means Rose, considering It's Act 3. Jade won't be entering for... well, in case Ninja Dragon reads it, a while yet.

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Act 5 Act 2, specifically

Man, I forgot the timing totally. This is what Hussie gets for using all 4-letter similar names as one of his quirks for all the characters.

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I wonder if the empress is actually going to be a lot more like Meenah than she might have first seemed. Like, she's still an empress and needs to be dealt with carefully, but might end up being totally reasonable and not evil and out to kill everyone in the way that Derse agents tend to be.

[Scowling Dragon]

She killed the entire human race slowly and painfully. She is indeed evil and honey roasted nuts.

[Draconi Redfir]

She's also a troll, killing people painfully and slowly is how they say hello

Okay not really, but there are more shades to a person then black or white, i would not be surprised if Condy actually wound up acting motherly or kind to Jane, the fact that she is the Heiress would indicate SOME form of care, unless the Condy just felt like having a heiress to "play" with since Feferi is gone.

Hell i wouldn't be surprised if the Condy was at least a little nice to Karkat and the surviving trolls, even if for no other reason then learning she's not the only one left.

Personally i hope/headcanon that after meeting the trolls she gives them some advice or items to help them beat lord English, possibly sacrificing herself in some way to do so

[Scowling Dragon]

Meh. Its too late to make her sympathetic. But add a teensy bit of depth, maybe.

[Friv]

Man, I forgot the timing totally. This is what Hussie gets for using all 4-letter similar names as one of his quirks for all the characters.

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I wonder if the empress is actually going to be a lot more like Meenah than she might have first seemed. Like, she's still an empress and needs to be dealt with carefully, but might end up being totally reasonable and not evil and out to kill everyone in the way that Derse agents tend to be.

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Meenah is a borderline psychopath, in the literal sense that she doesn't really seem to get why she shouldn't hurt people. She's not a complete psychopath, since she's capable of a certain degree of guilt and regret, but not a heck of a lot. She's entertaining, but she is just barely held in check by her friends and a vague desire to continue having them.

So, yeah, I think the Condesce is going to be a lot like Meenah, only without any need for restraint. She may be a bit friendly, and it's even possible that she will have some weird soft spot for Jane, but I don't think she's going to be non-"murderously evil". Think of how much eviler Mindfang was than Aranea, and apply that yardstrick to Condy.

[Draconi Redfir]

it's probably just me but i find even psychopathic serial killers can be sympathetic and lovable, case in point: Chesla Grinn of Chimneyspeak. (NSFW comic, don't look it up if under 18.) Crazy killer chick but at the same time crazy cute and turns out to have an interesting backstory and the like. Quite possibly the same for Condy in my opinion.

YES she killed pretty much the entire human species via outright murder and genetic tampering, but i'd still give her a hug if i found out she was torn up about her entire species being dead.

[Scowling Dragon]

Considering what she did to her own species as well? And that her species was just something she liked to rule?

No. She is not a character DESERVING of sympathy of any kind.

[Draconi Redfir]

did to her own species? What you mean ruled over it?

kinda what monarchs/dictatos/tyrants do m8.

[memnarch]

it's probably just me but i find even psychopathic serial killers can be sympathetic and lovable, case in point: Chesla Grinn of Chimneyspeak. (NSFW comic, don't look it up if under 18.) Crazy killer chick but at the same time crazy cute and turns out to have an interesting backstory and the like. Quite possibly the same for Condy in my opinion.

Well, I guess people can have unusual standards for cuteness. I agree with the interesting backstory part, but the empress will need a lot more time in the spotlight for that to happen.

YES she killed pretty much the entire human species via outright murder and genetic tampering, but i'd still give her a hug if i found out she was torn up about her entire species being dead.

And then she locks you up as a new plaything before painfully killing you too. While I might feel bad for her losing her entire race, I would still hate her for killing mine off. Especially since her race died, then she went/was brought to our universe, and then she killed us off.

[Friv]

did to her own species? What you mean ruled over it?

kinda what monarchs/dictatos/tyrants do m8.

Shaped it into a murderous festival of assassination and destruction, slaughtering every child who couldn't quite keep up while killing people for her own amusement, then leading it out to conquer and enslave every other race in the galaxy while forcing every adult to stay away from the homeworld in order to ensure that no one could ever gather the power to fight her? Obliterating an entire caste because their powers gave them the potential to beat her one day? Only holding back from killing her own descendant because she couldn't without losing her throne and her species?

Yeah, it is kinda what tyrants do. Evil tyrants.

[Draconi Redfir]

Well, I guess people can have unusual standards for cuteness. I agree with the interesting backstory part, but the empress will need a lot more time in the spotlight for that to happen.

Well true, i said IF any of that happens, never said i actually thought it would

Shaped it into a murderous festival of assassination and destruction, slaughtering every child who couldn't quite keep up while killing people for her own amusement, then leading it out to conquer and enslave every other race in the galaxy while forcing every adult to stay away from the homeworld in order to ensure that no one could ever gather the power to fight her? Obliterating an entire caste because their powers gave them the potential to beat her one day? Only holding back from killing her own descendant because she couldn't without losing her throne and her species?

Yeah, it is kinda what tyrants do. Evil tyrants.

So keeping her species strong and powerful via way of eugenics while ensuring her spot on the throne wasn't in danger.

seems smart to me.

[Shadow of the Sun]

I think I like what Draconi's suggesting, albeit I think he did so in a poorly worded way.

It's not that the Condensce isn't evil. It's that she could be rational and possible to bargain with, and willing to work with the heroes provided they do what she's looking for- she hates LE quite a lot, and the heroes are going to end up killing him or something, so...

[BRC]

seems smart to me.

"Smart" does not always mean "Not Evil", it just means that you achieved your goal in the best way.

If her Goal was to create a race of killers to serve as an army of galactic conquest, then yes, it was very smart.

[Jayngfet]

So keeping her species strong and powerful via way of eugenics while ensuring her spot on the throne wasn't in danger.

seems smart to me.

Wow. Did you seriously just straight up say that Eugenics was smart?

I'm sorry but you just lost the argument right out. I mean as in, there isn't going to be any discussion on the matter because either you're in favor of eugenics combined with dictatorship and genocide, or you are literally so bad at using words that this is literally the only way I can read that statement.

[AgentPaper]

Wow. Did you seriously just straight up say that Eugenics was smart?

I'm sorry but you just lost the argument right out. I mean as in, there isn't going to be any discussion on the matter because either you're in favor of eugenics combined with dictatorship and genocide, or you are literally so bad at using words that this is literally the only way I can read that statement.

Something can be smart and despicable at the same time.

[Jayngfet]

Something can be smart and despicable at the same time.

Yes, but given that Eugenics as it's usually used is based on a nineteenth century understanding of how the human body works at a genetic level, has never been executed successfully, tends to only be used by a combination of smallmindeness and vileness that is associated with some of the most horrific examples of evil EVER, and that in this specific case it's being used to excuse genocide that, by pure numbers going by trolls we've SEEN, looks like it wipes out at least like 20% of the able bodied population for various reasons.

Not to mention that the entire, terrible idea that this person is reasonable is based on the idea that she's related to someone who literally stabs people constantly for no reason and is confirmed to have been doing so as long as anyone can remember.

I'm sorry, I've used a lot of Ad Homenim and blatant mockery to attack various segments of the homestuck fandom, often to their faces, but this is quite possibly one of the most appallingly offensive and quite frankly badly thought out trains of thought ever to be put down on this forum.