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2018-01-19, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Welcome, one and all, to the latest thread for us to discuss, debate, and rag on our favorite series of Bethesda RPGs!
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- Who's excited for Skyrim?
- Skyrim II: A Dragon A Day Keeps The Draugr At Bay.
- Skyrim III: Get rich selling protective knee gear!
- Skyrim IV: Oblivion
- Skyrim V: Skyrim
- Skyrim Thread VI: Dov Riders, AWAY!
- The Elder Scrolls VII: Do you believe in mod?
- The Elder Scrolls: By the VIII Divines
- It's the IX Divines You milk drinker!
- The Elder Scrolls X: Thalmor Or Less
- Wouldn't Want to Be Elsweyer
- Twelve Worlds of Creation
- The Elder Scrolls XIII: Born Under a Certain Sign
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Have at it!Last edited by LibraryOgre; 2018-01-19 at 05:49 PM.
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2018-01-19, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Um, twelfth? I'm sensing some copy paste demons involved here.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2018-01-19, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
No, running joke. Every thread since 12 has had the wrong first post.
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2018-01-19, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
Written by Me on DriveThru RPG
There are almost 400,000 threads on this site. If you need me to address a thread as a moderator, include a link.
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2018-01-21, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Urgh... I'm officially deciding that trying to mod classic Skyrim is not freaking worth it. No matter how careful and methodical I am: mysterious gpu spikes outta nowhere. So stuff it. Maybe I'll have better luck with SE after all, if I can stand to keep at it. I feel like I've been doing this for a week :(
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2018-01-21, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
What horrible things were you trying to do to Skyrim?
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2018-01-21, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-01-21, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Well speaking of crashy Skyrim weirdness, does anyone understand how random encounters are stored/created? I've got one of those that crashes when the game picks it, and since it only happens with Rigmor of Bruma installed, I'd very much like to figure out if it's that doing it, or some other mod so I can report it. I assume it's something inside the .esp, but I'd like to know what I'm looking for before I go looking.
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2018-01-21, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
I'm reposting my question to here
I'm thinking of starting up a new Skyrim run and I'm wondering what mods people recommend? I'm looking for both content and graphic mods.The day I find a game is the day that HL2 Episode 3 is released!
My Brandenburg Interactive AAR game for EUIV.
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2018-01-22, 12:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
You said you were playing Special Edition?
Ordinator and the rest of Eno's stuff is good, I'm not actually sure if any other perk mods have been updated. Inigo seems interesting, and I'm quite enjoying Rigmor of Bruma. There's also Beyond Skyrim: Bruma.
Can't think of anything graphically to add, though Immersive HUD and Dynavision are useful options if they've been ported.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2018-01-22, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
SE runs a lot smoother (better framerate) on my system. That and usual bugs (cursor bug when alt-tabbing out) are gone. The ESSENTIAL mods are there. Though the advanced stuff (Drachis Argonians or different body meshes) will likely never get ported.
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2018-01-22, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
To be fair, porting is somewhat unnecessary if it's not using a .BSA file.
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2018-01-22, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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The day I find a game is the day that HL2 Episode 3 is released!
My Brandenburg Interactive AAR game for EUIV.
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2018-01-22, 01:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
The last TES game I was playing was OpenMW 0.42 last summer. I should probably give that another go some time.
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2018-01-22, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-01-22, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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This one says once you go Khajiit, you never return.
My first character was actually a Khajiit, who ended up being a very capable mage. Surprisingly fun to play actually.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2018-01-22, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Does Amren have a mod that let's you get to play with him ?
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2018-01-24, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
I feel I have not often enough stated for the record that I despise Deadly Dragons shock element dragons. Not even the storm dragons or the other high end variants, but the basic Dragon with shock breath.
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2018-01-25, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Does anyone know the one about the Breton and the bear tamer?
Just asking."None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2018-01-25, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-01-25, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, pretty much. Shock's just plain stronger than Fire/Frost, and I find shock resist gear to be much less common than the other two.
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2018-01-25, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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2018-01-25, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Really? I've long found Frost to be the strongest element. But I've played with mods that overhaul combat to actually deplete Stamina and debuff you if you're out so long I may have forgotten what Vanilla is like.
Even then though Ice Storm is hands down the best AoE damage spell in the game, and potentially the most powerful all around damage spell. You get so much bang for your magicka it's not even funny, since it hits like three times (more if your enemy backpedals away from you).Last edited by Rynjin; 2018-01-25 at 02:47 PM.
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2018-01-25, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
All three elements have their strengths. Frost is great against physical threats like bears and melee npcs. The slow debuff makes keeping out of reach pretty easy and the stamina damage keeps their power attacks at a minimum. For efficiency, fire is fast and cheap and combines nasty initial damage with damage over time. When combined with elemental weaknesses, both can be absolutely devastating. That said, I find shock to be my go-to. First off, there are way too many things with resistance to fire and frost, but next to nothing with shock resistance, making it a good all-around element. Second, the projectile speed makes it easier to hit targets. And last, there's nothing quite like taking a mage's magicka away while doing damage. When I play a mage, I use all three, but shock is what I have in hand when I don't know what I'm going to run across next, particularly against dragons until I know what element they are.
Spoiler: My inventory:
1 Sentient Sword
1 Jammy Dodger (I was promised tea)
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2018-01-25, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Frost also has a built-in slowing effect.
Shock dragons are so deeply deadly, because while it takes a second for fire or frost to track from one target to the next, shock jumps targets instantly.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2018-01-27, 01:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
I tend to default to either lightning or fire for destruction. Pre-100 Enchanting, fire is simply the most efficient in terms of damage-per-thaum, has a decent array of enemies that don't have immunities, and has decent projectile speed. Then when I get enough enchanting to have free destruction casting, it's over to lightning for its hitscan nature, nearly-nonexistent resistant enemies, and good anti-mage utility.
I'll note that I usually also usually run a mod to add enchantments to increase magic potency, which means that with a high enough enchanting skill you can swat dragons out of the sky with a single well-placed lightning bold.I run a Let's Play channel! Check it out!
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2018-01-27, 01:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
Just a point of order: isn't it traditional to add a post to the *old* thread pointing at the new one when it's created? I only just noticed this thread was here (more than a week after it was created).
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2018-01-27, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!
The other difficulty with dragon lightning is that it tends to stun lock you and get you killed because you can't move.
Ice makes for a super effective sniping tool. Lightning has a shorter range even though it's hit scan, and firebolts both wobble and tend to fizzle out before hitting. Ice Spikes on the other hand fly totally straight, and have a hilariously long projectile life time.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2018-01-27, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think I can accept the characterisation as "super effective" of any of the destruction spells as sniping weapons. They're just not strong enough to one-shot any opponent worth worrying about, no matter how carefully delivered. A non-magical bow (in the hands of a similarly levelled, stealthy user) can do significantly more damage, either as a single shot or in DPS.
Maybe with a mod that lets you apply stealth perks to spell damage, I could buy it."None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2018-01-27, 11:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Part of the reason for that, though, is that every weapon type has both enchantments and perks that boost damage, while Destruction's perks mostly focus on cost reduction.
The above-linked mod fixes that, at least partially, by adding in enchantments that allow you to boost destruction damage.I run a Let's Play channel! Check it out!
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