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2011-06-01, 03:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
The title pretty much covers it. I'm playing a gish character in an ongoing campaign and want to know if, by RAW, I can form Somatic components while wielding a Two-Handed Weapon, because I couldn't find anything on it one way or the other.
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2011-06-01, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
Letting go of the grip with one hand is a free action. There is nothing to stop you from using 2-handed weapons and casting spells.
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2011-06-01, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
I think it might be in the description of the Duskblade, of all places. Taking a hand off the sword in order to do somatic components is a free action, you can do it just fine.
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2011-06-01, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
Considering you can hold 2-handed weapons in 1 hand (just can't attack) I would say yes.
Also: Not all Somatic Components are hand-waving. Doing a jig could be a valid way of casting spells (well, if your an Irish Wizard maybe...)call me Dragon
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2011-06-01, 03:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 03:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
Okay, thank you for the overwhelming "Yes, absolutely's," but the problem for my DM (who asked me to verify it) is not logic, but balance. Thus, I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to a book and page number. XD
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2011-06-01, 03:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 04:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
I would argue, however, that any spell with both somatic and material components cannot be cast one-handed without the benefit of Somatic Weaponry (plus obviously Eschew Materials for cheap spells). Same deal with focus components.
It's a lot harder to do all the necessary handwaving for a spell if said hand is clenched around a miniature archery target or a bunch of diamond dust.
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2011-06-01, 04:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
If you want to burn a feat slot, there's a feat in Complete Mage that deals with this:
Somatic Weaponry (Complete Mage, pg. 47)
Prerequisites: Concentration 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks
Benefits: When wielding a weapon (Or item of comparable size) in one or both hands, you can use that weapon to trace the somatic component of a spell rather than using your fingers. This allows you to cast spells with somatic components even while your hands are full or occupied, as long as at least one hand is holding an item of the proper size.
This feat does not allow you to use somatic components while grappling, regardless of the size of your foe.
Normal: You must have at least one hand free to cast spells that have somatic components.
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2011-06-01, 04:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 08:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
Quarterstaffs can't be used one-handed. They can be used either as a two-handed weapon or as a one-handed weapon and a light weapon.
But yes, the point is, you can hold a two-handed weapon in one hand, and use the other to cast spells. It takes no time at all to change your grip and cast the spell.
Sure, that works at level 1, but what about a magic spell staff?
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2011-06-01, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
From SRD:
A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can’t use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.
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2011-06-01, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
Hence the "or crossbow." Elves (a fairly standard race for Wizards) are proficient with bows.
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2011-06-01, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
3.5 doesn't use weapon sizes anymore. At least, not in that way - a quarterstaff sized for a medium creature is a medium quarterstaff. A large quarterstaff would be sized for a large creature.
But yes. That quote is about, say, a troll wielding a quarterstaff sized for a human.
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2011-06-01, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's still a two-handed weapon. A Large creature can wield a Medium quarterstaff in one hand. He cannot use it as a double weapon. A Medium creature cannot wield a Medium quarterstaff in one hand. Because for him it's a two-handed weapon.
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2011-06-01, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Somatic Components and Two-Handed Weapons
The rule is the same as it is for any two-handed weapon. Double-weapons do not magically stop being two-handed weapons simply because they are also double-weapons.
The rule can only be for inappropriately-sized weapons, because that is the only way to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand.