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2012-02-11, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Sherlock has High Conviction, Med Temperence, Med Valor, Low Compassion. I think there is a sociopath Flaw, but I hesitate to recommend that because he still displays emotion and Flaws are, well, Flaws. For Attributes I would say 2/4/2 3/5/4 4/5/4. High Investigation, Awareness, Bureaucracy and maybe Athletics. Some kind of high-Int MA that deals with possibilities (that's more of the American version though). I would fluff him as homoromantic asexuall.
John: 3/3/4 3/1/3 3/3/3 I dunno. Medicine. He thinks he has a Pox but he doesn't. Compassion>Valor>Temperence=Conviction.
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2012-02-11, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Yea, I'm not using that…..word for the Liminals either. I have a similar sense, as the name just senses as……pretentious, made up, not really….Exalted. it just doesn't aesthetically fit. Liminals ring true as something Exalted, that word…..that doesn't sound something that fits Exalted, it sounds more like some weird DnD insect or lizard race someone would make up that would somehow combined the aztecs with nuclear radiation or something….just not a good sound at all.
Liminals? roll off the tongue, are quick, have the same naming scheme as all the others, sounds like a clear bell with all the clarity of transparency and such. its like clear water standing still, a lake that you can use as a mirror.
Liminals. Liminals, Liminals, Liminals. A good word for an Exalted is one you can say all day.
That word….no….just no. Not even as an epithet.
I've heard however they are going to some kind of champions or Lethe or something. which means my epithet for the Liminal Exalted is going to be Gravekeepers.
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2012-02-11, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-11, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-11, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Triply so when they say it's out of theme, without actually knowing what themes they're talking about....
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2012-02-11, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Wrong, I said aesthetically it doesn't fit. it could the thematics like a frigging glove and I still would not care. the fact that its a name for good farming soil makes it suck, and I care even less what language its from.
presentation and aesthetics are important to. I will not play something with sucky names or colors that don't match quite right. its awkward and out of place. the fact that they apparently chose that word as their real name and Liminals as the epithet makes it even worse, as the way one would see it now,
it would inconsistent and out of place even more among all the Exalts being: Solars, Lunars, Terrestrials, Sidereals and so on, it just makes more sense to call them Liminals to match, even if that weird word is closer to thematics.
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2012-02-11, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Again, I find it laughable to declare something doesn't fit without knowing what it is supposed to fit into. Note that they have been called the Black Earth exalted by at least a couple, so that leads me to believe there's a reason, and not just the writers choosing names out of a hat.
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2012-02-11, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
I quite like the world Liminal Exalted. It does roll off the tongue very easily.
However, I must say I like the other sobriquets as well. Chernozem feels heavy and somewhat threatening. Real. I like to roll on the r. Children of the Black Earth also has a distinctly... well, I want to say down to earth feeling, which would sound silly, but that's what it feels like.
The other Exalts are Lawgivers and golden kings and terrible monsters and have blood of dragons and all kind of fantasy stuff. These guys? They feel grittier. I imagine a misty day, there's rain in the air and the farmers are ploughing their fields. The wet air clings to their back and the black soil gleams thick and rich around the plough. There is strength born from years and generations in that earth. Pride. Life. The earth treats them as they treat it.
Of course, I know jack about how the Chernozem will actually be, but yeah, I like the names.
The name I dislike the most in probably Warden for Lunars. I just think it misses the point. The Terrestrials should be the Wardens instead. It might fit better after the Lunar errata, but I'm not counting on it.Quoth the raven, "Polly wants a cracker."
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2012-02-11, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is English your native language? Mine isn't, and so the "feel" you put in Chernozem that the others don't have...They've always been there for me. the inverted "<adjective> Exalted"::"<sobriquet>" part does indeed feel unnecessary, but not troublesome.
The sobriquet itself? Really doesn't feel different any more than the others do.
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2012-02-11, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
English is my native language, and I really don't find anything wrong with the word Chernozern. Hell, I like that it's something different than what has been used with every other exalt type.
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2012-02-11, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Really, Slavic languages should be mined more for Exalted terms.
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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2012-02-11, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Quick, I need a name for a Merchant vessel in the High first age, plus a couple names for random civilians. For a short little piece of fiction, but I'm horrible with making up names, especially in the Exalted tradition.
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2012-02-11, 11:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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It is inevitable, of course, that persons of epicurean refinement will in the course of eternity engage in dealings with those of... unsavory character. Record well any transactions made, and repay all favors promptly.. (Thanks to Gnomish Wanderer for the Toreador avatar! )
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2012-02-12, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Well I'll never be happy with the term. to me "Chernozem" is the lingual aesthetic equivalent to a bratty 90's teen who thinks he is "X-treme" showing up at a formal dinner party where everyone is wearing suits and dresses, while he is dressed in casual street clothes while spouting out stupid slang filled with X's and Z's. completely inappropriate and out of place, and not caring for the etiquette of the situation at all.
I'm calling them Liminal Exalted, and thats what they are no matter how "kewl" or whatever that word is. there is a certain etiquette to Exalted naming that needs to be observed, and if I'm the only one to do it, so be it.
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2012-02-12, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
what I'm saying that it doesn't the naming etiquette. Solars, Lunars, Sidereals, Terrestrials, Alchemicals, Abyssals, Infernals, Liminals. they fit.
that word? doesn't. its not about whether its formal, a man in a suit speaking flowery language being formal to a bunch of casual people spouting slang at a wild party is just as inappropriate.
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2012-02-12, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think you're looking at this wrong. Exalted isn't about whats apropos, it's about what's awesome and cool and sexy and rad and potato and sweet cornbread and vittles. The suited man speaking French and nibbling on my ear is clearly superior to a rowdy fangangbloonum. In this manner, Chernozem is aight.
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2012-02-12, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Especially given that there are strong hints that these Exalted, unlike all the others, don't descend from Autochthon's blueprints. Having a different name makes a great deal of sense then.
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2012-02-12, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Maybe the problem people are having with "Chernozem"<>"Liminal Exalted" is that pretty much every other exalted type has "Fancy word"<>"Plain english description". Chernozem might be a proper english word, but unless you spend lots of time farming, you have never heard of it. So if they were "Chernozem-al* exalted", commonly called "Black Earth Guardians", people would have fewer problems with their naming. If they are alternately "Chernozem Exalted" or "Liminal Exalted", that isn't bad either.
*Or however slavic words get turned into adjectives. Preferably how slavic words get turned into adjectives.
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2012-02-12, 02:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 03:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 03:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 05:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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I know what you meant there, but... "Celestial Dragon-Blooded"? O.o the terms you defined as awesome are just "what's already there".
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2012-02-12, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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No, it doesn't fit. Conventions are called conventions for a reason. Nomenclature exists because of the identification of traditions and similarities. Raziere is correct that the C-word does not fit for exactly the reason he stated. It is not presented in contemporary English.
Think about it. Thousands, perhaps millions, of monks of the Immaculate Order learn how to manipulate essence through thaumaturgical rituals every day in Creation. One of them should be able to attract a Celestial Exaltation Shard.
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2012-02-12, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, but that monk is not a dragon-blooded, nor does he become something recognizable as such except through deliberate deception :p
I see what you mean by conventions. Yes, Chernozem is the first to deviate from the convention. That is a valid point, but not one that bothers me. "Soilers" ain't a good sobriquet tho :D. I wonder what they'll do with it.
Btw, I am currently writing a js suite of stuff to aid in running the game. Health tracker, battle timer, dice roller...the whole thing. If anyone is willing to help I'll be greatly pleased.
Some things about it...
- Prettification will likely come last, as I'm horrible with it.
- It uses jquery and jqueryUi.
- One can open multiple instances of the healthtracker, as well as add/remove damage taken. Their size is also customizable within the -0 -> -4 range
I only just started, it's fun stuff. If you have a suggestion of what it should have, or how it should work, please let me know.
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2012-02-12, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion Thread IX: Errata is Combo-Ok!
Ahem. Celestial Exaltation Shard. Of course they won't be Dragon-blooded.
Not to spur conflict, but I think its a fantastic sobriquet! So much more expressive than insert-foreign-word-here. Soilers. Just think of how their opponents could make fun of them!
Explanation is requested for JS, please. Java Script?Last edited by Story Time; 2012-02-12 at 08:30 AM. Reason: Added Quote
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2012-02-12, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-12, 09:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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I wrote a set of macros for the tabletop utility Maptool, if you're familiar with it. If you need help with setting up any of the basic formulas, then I can see if I've already worked it out. Are you including the ability to save characters? Without that feature in Maptool, it would have been a pain to keep track of the stats for whatever form the Lunars were in at the time, and while I didn't have any Infernals, they would cause the same sort of issue. Since character data is preserved, I created duplicates of the variables that held their human statistics and made a unique set of macros for each Lunar that set the main attribute values to the proper amount, drawing from the copies I made for returning to human form.