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2012-10-31, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm actually at the other end of the spectrum, but I feel similarly. I'm a Star Wars fan who had read nearly all of the EU (all the books, certainly, and a fair portion of the comics and video games) at one point, who is excited about this merger even given the possibility for them throwing out the entire EU. Because the Star Wars EU has already made me give up on Star Wars, by itself.
Would I miss the good stories that I remember? Hell yes. Would I miss the awesome characters that have been built up over years and years of collaborative storytelling? Of course. But if getting rid of them will keep new, POSSIBLY GOOD Star Wars movies from being hung up on poodoo like Glove of Darth Vader or Legacy of the Force? Color me interested. If the looming spectre of future mediocrity that is Legacy comics no longer hangs over the storyline like a bad dream? Sign me up. We'll be losing a lot, but we could stand to gain a whole lot more.
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2012-10-31, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, I just know it. Its kinda elaborate how, but I read a cracked article about a guy making his own special edition star wars and he made edits to the movie to co-inside with what was written in the comics.
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EXACTLY!
I don't very much in particular enjoy the current EU. Its just the OT on repeat. Except with bigger Death Stars.
And Im pretty sure Disney will handle this with care. Its an OMEGA holy cow. Unlike SOME PEOPLE, Im pretty sure a year or two will be spent on script writing alone with a million people all chained to desks.
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2012-10-31, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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And that's what I would have a problem with, is something that should be unnecessary, and is pretty much a typical "clueless corporation that doesn't know how to manage it's properties"/"sterotypical evil corporation not giving two flips about the fans" sort of thing to do.
I thought you wanted new stories? Why not use those characters to tell those stories, with the extisting material serving as a starting point? Unless every character has their entire life story from birth till death written out already (FYI, they don't), the existing material can be an advantage by getting some of the work done for them ahead of time.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Yeah. Never retconned anything.
Because they exist in "Comfortable" zones. Areas that won't matter in the end at all. The clone wars don't matter and none of the developments that happen there don't. At the end of the day Anikin becomes Darth Vader.
But here, its a already built up roadblock of continuity. They can either limbo and tango through it, giving us nothing new except live action, or they can skip that cage altogether and make something new.
Its not thrown out. Unless Disney makes a Policy of never touching the other stuff ever again its just alternate stories.
Even if they do, the books are still there. And fanfiction is of similar quality.
I know there is a Robot Chicken version. Can you link the other version?Thanks to Elrond for the Vash avatar.
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2012-10-31, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Given that many fans seem to blame ol' George's over involvement for the general suckiness of the prequels, perhaps this will be a step in the right direction; the same way Star Trek improved without Gene at the helm.
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2012-10-31, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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I doubt, that legally, they can even use the EU in a movie. It kinda depends on who owns all the information. When 'writer A' creates a person, place or thing in the EU, who owns it? The writer? The EU? Both? Nether?
And even if you wanted to use the EU, the EU is a mess. You have tons and tons of conflicting stories.
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2012-10-31, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unless I'm mistaken, whoever owns the rights to Star Wars. Entities cross between writers all the time, it's rarely, if ever, a big deal.
And even if you wanted to use the EU, the EU is a mess. You have tons and tons of conflicting stories.Thanks to Elrond for the Vash avatar.
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Ok, try to follow me (and apologies if this has been said):
I was just reminded that George Lucas said the new Star Wars movie would pick up "a few decades after Return of the Jedi."
In addition, Disney has fistfuls of cash they could throw at Harrison Ford to get him to reprise his greatest role of all-time.
Furthermore, Disney will be desperate to see that the first of the new trilogy of Star Wars movies is well-received (as they just paid $4 billion for Lucas Arts).
We could see Harrison Ford as Han Solo again, people!!!!!!!!
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With all due respect, I'd rather not. I have the greatest respect for Harrison Ford, but he's getting a bit long in the tooth for an action hero. I'd rather have the memories than have him trotted out to reprise a role that has long since grown away from him.
If they do bring Han Solo back, I hope it's more along the lines of what happened with the latest Star Trek movie. Harrison Ford did Han Solo as Leonard Nimoy did Spock. It is unlikely their interpretation of the character will be equaled. But I'd rather have a fresh interpretation of the character with a new actor than to try to recapture magic from thirty years ago.
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Brian P."Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
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Marvel already had the plan in place, but Disney didn't interfere in it. For the Avengers, I think a huge part of its success is the pick of Joss Whedon as writer/director. He did a great job on a project that had a very good possibility of sucking.
My point was that Disney has a pretty good track record of letting companies do what they do without too much meddling. Pixar is mostly unchanged and Marvel has continued its huge success.
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TNG had a marked increase in quality when Roddenberry let go of direct control over the series. J.J. Abrahms also reinvigorated Star Trek as a franchise with his movie after Nemesis and Enterprise almost killed the brand.
Also, the first crossover has occurred (video):
Darth Vader going to Disneyland
Man, that was fun.Last edited by Joran; 2012-10-31 at 03:01 PM.
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I would be surprised if Lucasfilm didn't own the ultimate intellectual property to all the EU characters. But, obviously, I don't know for sure. My guess is that 'writer A' is working under a license that reads something like:
1) We'll pay you money to write the books
2) We'll share profits
3) We'll allow you to use established characters in your books, but there are certain things you cannot do with them (e.g., have Luke Skywalker become a porno star )
4) We'll allow you to create characters in the Star Wars universe, but you'll have to give us the intellectual property to those characters
5) We have the right to refuse to publish the book if we don't agree with the content
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The snow monster killed Princess Leia about 10 years later, and Han Solo was framed for the killing. Han Solo managed to escape the prison and became a fugitive.
Wicket the Ewok--who was a close friend of Princess Leia--was employed to track down Han Solo. Solo would cross paths with Wicket and claim, "It wasn't me; it was the one-armed snow monster!"
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2012-10-31, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Actually, IIRC, the wampa monster from ESB went on to become a one-armed chieftain of a tribe of wampas. He remembered Luke and led his tribe against Luke when Luke came back to Hoth with his girlfriend Callista in tow, for reasons that I really do not remember at all. It was played completely straight, and almost as hilariously stupid a reveal as Daala coming back and being hailed as some former genius.
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The question at work today was who will direct? I think either James Cameron, JJ Abrams or Joss Whedon.
I figure if Abrams gets it he'll have both Star Wars AND Star Trek and will amass so much nerd power that he will go mad. Then only Joss Whedon will be able to stop him.
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2012-10-31, 04:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Since I'm sure you're dying to remember why (), it was because they were trying to go to any place that could be remotely well-connected with the Force to help Callista reconnect with her abilties, and since Luke saw Obi-wan there, Hoth was on the list.
It was played completely straight, and almost as hilariously stupid a reveal as Daala coming back and being hailed as some former genius.Thanks to Elrond for the Vash avatar.