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2013-12-09, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Hello!
Ah, that would have been a nice one to answer back with, as would be 'Prefer Not To Say', except then some busybody receptionist (who only meant the best, really) would have ended up ticking Female because my name is feminine. Also PCOS is a thing for biological females only.
But then, fifty years ago I doubt the survey would have supplied any form of a Sexuality section at all, so there's a lot of hope isn't there? And they did have the option for trans people there too which really was nice.
There's also the slight fact that if there'd been an option for pansexual I'd have gone for that, but that is just a quibble.
But really I think it's fun (if that's even the right word to use) being non-traditionally gendered for reasons I can't quite explain because I don't really know how I'll feel about anything until I do it, and then my opinion on it might change afterwards! It's an eternal surprise. It also means that when I talk about manning/girling up/out I mean it quite literally which I think is a fine distinction people don't recognise. It's not derogatory when I say it (even though it probably is), it's just . . . literal. For me.
Really I'm just complicated, and I like it. Though it can be annoying having to say things like 'As a biological female [bleh]' and sometimes have people say strange things back.
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2013-12-09, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
It does sound good (apart from the head of animation stating that multiple female characters are difficult because women has to be pretty and sensitive), though I was just a bit annoyed that the trailers indicate a romantic subplot, two male characters sharing Anna's screen time, an all-white cast (Though, as at least one Saami blogger has complained, they still get uncomfortably appropriative of Saami cultural elements) and both of those amounting to less diversity (in trailers) than the 1845 fairy tale. Unless people are right about the main siblings being trans, in which case it gets points for amazing. ^_^'
I'm probably a bit biased by that whole head of animation quote and the Saami clothing bit, though, so take my pre-watching impression with a grain of snow. Well, those reasons and the fact that the names sound hilarious to me.
PS: A Koboldy welcome from me too, Curly! Hope you'll have fun here. Agree that the questionnaire was very lacking, but it's promising that it's gotten this far. Perhaps you being there and possibly being able to mention it could even help it! ^_^
Also, if you wrote that you prefer not to say, wouldn't that make a receptionist overriding your preferences kind of insensitive? Meaning well confuses me when the reaction to "I don't want to say this" is "I'll just jot it down anyway! :D" ^_^'Treasured Quotes
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2013-12-09, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Yeah, I kinda like being complicated.
"Wait, so are you a guy or a girl?"
"No."
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"I thought you were a guy..."
"I was, and now I'm a girl."
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"So, wait, are you a girl?"
"Today, yes."
Fun to confuse people with, if nothing else...
...Though it does have the side-effect that at times I feel terrible. Ugh.
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2013-12-09, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
I really like it but not as a definition of misandry, more an explanation. I disagree that the definition of feminism is "empowering women", that's just one of the goals. Misandry in this case, instead of being the reduction of harmful privileges, I see as a response by men when they are called out on displaying these harmful privileges.
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2013-12-09, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Yeah, Frozen's not perfect. It would have been better to have some racial diversity, definitely. I was very skeptical about it, because of the comments about the animation being hard because of having two female characters, and because of all the white-boys-and-snowmen advertising, but I think it does so well on the female characters front and the subverting traditional Disney romance front that it deserves some slack. One step at a time and all that.
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2013-12-09, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 05:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Really? The head of animation said that? Well I hope he got a nice round of glares from people s/he worked with. And at least your trailers indicated something of substance; literally the only trailer for Frozen I've seen (I'm in the UK for the reference) involves a . . . talking animal - I almost want to say it's a snowman, but I just don't want it to be - and a male in some form of 'comedic moment'. I didn't even know there were two siblings in it, let alone that they were both female!
So that trailer seriously put me off, and I'm a biiiiiiiig fan of Disney's animated works. But I've still heard good things about it, so I'm still going to see it anyway. Besides, the Tangled trailers played up the comedy and that wasn't a complete comedy.
That said, the lack of diversity is a problem, but as with most things, one step at a time. Yeah, it's not great that we have to go one step at a time, but acclimatising people is a good thing.
No, the survey only had the options Male and Female with a follow-up question of 'Is this the gender you were born with? Yes/No' or something along those lines. No Prefer Not to Say option.
And as for mentioning it to the receptionists/other I had a seriously stressful time getting to the hospital and suffer from serious shyness/polite deference with most people so I didn't.
Next time though . . .
And really, given that I live in a rural part of the country and my general area is mildly-to-quite-traditional in some aspects I consider it a bonus that it was at least a county wide survey.
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Eh, I'm stumbling along trying to figure out how to refer to myself when I'm feeling male-in-a-female-body, masculine-in-a-female-body, neutral-in-a-female-body and everything else.
It's the best term I have so far, but I'm still looking.Last edited by CurlyKitGirl; 2013-12-09 at 05:49 PM.
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2013-12-09, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Sounds genderfluid to me. There's lots of terms and stuff. But yeah, "man in a woman's body" and "woman in a man's body" is just old cissexist crap. A trans girl's body is her own, and therefore it is a woman's body. (I know you're using male/female but yeah) If you have fluctuating masculine/neutral/feminine feelings that sounds genderfluid, but then we could get into the differences between sex/gender identity/presentation/roles etc
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2013-12-09, 06:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Yuuup, it was a big eyeroll moment all around and I hope he got given out to.
I avoided the trailers because I kept hearing they were awful and I was hopeful for the two-main-female-characters thing, and I'm glad. I watched a trailer for interest after watching the movie today, and it was bizarre. They made everyone seem different than their main character traits and they must have used every single joke the snowman makes, in order to fill 2 minutes of comedy.
Frozen is suffering from "but it's imaginary historical Norway/Finland and Scandinavians are white". Which is a false argument, but it's a way stronger false argument than "there should be only white people in movies set in modern day America because ... uh ... yeah", so I can see, in a world where the latter is still working, the former will easily slide by.
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2013-12-09, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
does anybody else love Khaos Comix? I think the stories are just so sweet, and It's a very good example of stories being very different from someone else's perspective.
It;s something that makes me very happy when I read it, and I wanted to spread the love! (although a lot of you probably allready know about it)
http://www.khaoskomix.com/LGBTA+itP
I'm dyslectic and English is not my first language, so I'll probably make a few spelling errors.
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2013-12-09, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Aannnd while my relatives do try, they are cissexist and all that jazz, and don't really understand how I can something feel masculine, feminine, neutral, nothing a mix and everything else that comes with being genderfluid, so that's the best way for everything to be clear between us. I did identify as genderfluid back a page, but I also know that to some people this doesn't mean much, so I go for something else.
Plus a few of my relatives are out-and-out homophobes who are honestly trying to understand that I'm not heterosexual, so one step at a time.
Well, damn, I just looked up a scene from Frozen, this one (possible spoilers? I don't know who she actually is), and that's beautiful and I may have developed a slight crush on animated Idina Mendez, so guess what I'll be seeing soon?
God that animation is gorgeous (even better than a lot of Disney's classic/great works), and that voice and the attitude and the confidence and I'm not really a fan of blondes/blonds (from a purely physical perspective), but that is good.Last edited by CurlyKitGirl; 2013-12-09 at 06:31 PM.
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2013-12-09, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Olaf was the single best part of that movie, even if only barely. Olaf the snowman melts my heart.
Spoiler: SpoilersI am still undecided on it. It hasn't compiled yet.
For one, True Love[font="courier new]TM[/font] is a berserk button of mine because of how glossed-over it is when there's a lot of assumptions and baggage involved.
So the instant True Love was mentioned I immediately flowered, rolled my eyes and said "it damn well better be the sister or I will flip all the tables." So when it was, I relieved but have a hard time letting go of my brooding. So now I'm mostly okay, except I'm really irked that prudish tight laced princess becomes fre and suddenly HIPS LIKE A PENDULUM IN GLORIOUS 4" PUMPS IN THE SNOW.
But the ending was okay and Olaf was remarkably sweet, so much so that I think he should be a thread mascot. So now I'm like, not sure. Great animation and fantabulous acting and vocals, though.
Aaaaah don't do that! :<
T~T
Spoiler: more spoilersThere's a talking reindeer! Well, close enough to count I suppose.
Tenuously, it makes sense in context but is not a standalone definition. It's not incorrect but it's so highly rhetorically abstract as to be useless and outright factually wrong when used without context.
Well, rhetorically I see the point behind the equality statement. If equality of the sexes is 'women can do all the stuff men can do' and we accept that 'men can do bad things and it's okay' as currently true then we must also accept that equality of the sexes as such is allowing women to do bad things and get away with it, too.
You can argue the definition of equality and the degree to which 'men are allowed to so bad things and it's okay' is true. But the idea of reconfiguring societal morals from the ground up instead of just reconfiguring standing morals until you kludge them into a working enough form to be acceptable is a good one.
Myself, I have to wonder why a blog that lists inclusiveness for all has a logo that happily proclaims "forever bathing in your male tears", but hey.
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2013-12-09, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
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2013-12-09, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Spoiler: SiuiS, Misandry Definition tumblr postIt doesn't make sense as rhetoric or a rhetorical statement to me, so I'd appreciate it if you'd humor me and explain that a bit more.
Show me anyone making that argument and I'd buy you a beer. Which is part of why it's a non sequitur to me. No one who works for equality wants that, AFAIK, that's one thing that everyone from 1st to 2nd to 3rd to non-Wave feminists (and those who get lumped in with feminists despite rejecting the label due to perceiving the label as rejecting them along racial or socio-economic lines) seems to have universally agreed upon, but I admit that it's quite possible I've missed out on some crucial bit of backstory to this narrative. For my own sanity and peace of mind I can't give much credence to it being much of an issue without some persuasive arguments and evidence to back them up.
I perhaps should have said "mischaracterization" or something with more vitriol, but I was trying to not come down too hard in order to compensate for having been soured against the writer before reading the actual post. And I didn't really want to go to a vitriolic place anymore than it had already driven me.
Something about lumping blatant abuses of power with more passive privilege also doesn't really set right with me, but I can't quite place my finger on why, per se. It just seems like being able to walk down the street without being catcalled(and, even if one is, the narrative is much more favorable) or not having one's validity called into question if thought of as unattractive are completely different animals from people going out of their way to justify one's wrongdoing.
Granted, I was taught that equality without ending abuse and wrongdoing was a farce, so that might tie into my perspective.
It does seem to beat the alternative if those are the only two options on the table, yes. It especially seems to beat trying to kludge societal morals without a real goal of where you want them to end up.
It does seem to either be that or dismiss it out of hand, but the people who wholeheartedly agreed with it, and the one person who reblogged it and apologized for not being able to say "kill all the men!" yet would seem to offer some third viewpoint which I cannot fathom. Perhaps it's one of those examples of the blogger demonstrating sarcasm that will never be denoted as sarcasm and one is supposed to get it immediately or identify one's self as not the right kind of person or stupid in the eyes of the blogger and thus to be dismissed as less than.
*shrug*
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2013-12-09, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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I wrote this, which I find thread relevant: "It's permanent"
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2013-12-09, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Tell us how it goes, when the time comes!
SpoilerAs everyone else said, you should - as a last resort - inform the surgeon. Life is a stream; death is dried, forever and ever.
Oh, my. That is quite a dress!
Ah, care to donate a few snippets?
Indeed.
Wait, you have a blog? SMEE has her own website, too - perhaps we should start some sort of LGBTAI Internet Address spoiler.
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2013-12-09, 10:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 11:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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More articles on history, because that's what I do. Possibly with comparisons to the present, because I can do those on quiet Sunday evenings while drinking a hot chocolate, whereas in-depth historical research is more difficult.
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1) Quebec has passed a law allowing to have the legal sex change without any surgery!!! Yay, less bureaucracy for me
2) I should get my referral tomorrow! Yay!Last edited by Miriel; 2013-12-09 at 11:04 PM.
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2013-12-09, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitp #46: I cast Prismatic Hugs!
Oh yeah, Quebec! Pretty cool place to live, according to my French teacher, and now confirmed by Catelyn!
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2013-12-09, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-09, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, as always, "yes and no". I like it here, but there is much stupidity. Political stupidity especially, but I guess the details are not appropriate here. Some of said stupidity is alluded to in said blog in my other article. But I guess it's still much, much better than a large part of the US, especially for GSRM issues.
(I don't know if "Catelyn" was in reference to me, but I'm Caroline.)