OOTS #1022 - The Discussion Thread

[Peelee]

last we saw belkar, he was about to face down a pretty nasty vampire, i worry he might come in with slightly sharper teeth than before.............. ;(

In three days at the very earliest, you mean?

[Cizak]

Don't have much to say about this one, it's as good as always. Just want to point out that the vampire's speech balloon is the wrong colour.

[Emperordaniel]

Yep, as I thought - Roy cannot kill the New High Priest of Hel.

Time to chase after Phyrnglsnyx!

[Roger_Druid]

Panel 2 typo? "trasnferred"

Edit: Great strip. I always wondered how breaking magic items worked. Are they destroyed? Will a Mending fix them and restore the magic? Roy doesn't care, I guess.

Hi all!

Plus: shouldn't Roy be hit with a bazillion of breaking-a-magical-staff damage? Once, playing a Paladin of 3.5e, a got a 200HP damage, no ST, on my face, when someone did that (as a last effort to dispose of me and my party). I barely survived (was 13th lvl), as well as my party...

Roger

[Kish]

That's not automatic for all magical staves, it's just a feature of a Staff of Power and a Staff of the Magi specifically.

[Basement Cat]

Hi all!

Plus: shouldn't Roy be hit with a bazillion of breaking-a-magical-staff damage? Once, playing a Paladin of 3.5e, a got a 200HP damage, no ST, on my face, when someone did that (as a last effort to dispose of me and my party). I barely survived (was 13th lvl), as well as my party...

Roger

The only ones that explode when broken are Staves of Power and Staves of the Magi.

At least as far as the rule books state. Home rules could say any and every magic item explodes when destroyed, sure, but it's not in the rule books.

Besides, if every wand and staff exploded when snapped then fighters with a lot of hit points would be running around snapping them as AoE weapons all the time.

Edit: ninja'd

[Jasdoif]

I always wondered how breaking magic items worked. Are they destroyed? Will a Mending fix them and restore the magic? Roy doesn't care, I guess.

Once it's broken, its no longer magical.

A damaged magic item continues to function, but if it is destroyed, all its magical power is lost.

The make whole spell also repairs a damaged--but not completely broken--magic item.

So it's presently a broken nonmagical stick.

[sengmeng]

Hahaha yes!

[Killer Angel]

A petty revenge... but so satisfying.

[SpectralDerp]

This feels badly written. Good job throwing a weapon in the face of someone right after you talk rules-lawyering and avoiding repercussions for attacking, now the next chapter can declare that you broke the rules and need to be killed. Oh wait, that's not going to happen because the giant didn't think things through and doesn't want his ****-up to derail everything. So I guess it arbitrarily doesn't count.

[Emperordaniel]

This feels badly written. Good job throwing a weapon in the face of someone right after you talk rules-lawyering and avoiding repercussions for attacking, now the next chapter can declare that you broke the rules and need to be killed. Oh wait, that's not going to happen because the giant didn't think things through and doesn't want his ****-up to derail everything. So I guess it arbitrarily doesn't count.

Hey, she asked for the staff, it's not the Order of the Stick's fault that she failed to catch it when he tossed it at her.

[Keltest]

Yay, Roy gets to sass someone again!

[Anarion]

Well, that was expected I suppose. I enjoy hearing exposition from Roy though, he makes excellent points with his sarcastic retorts.

This feels badly written. Good job throwing a weapon in the face of someone right after you talk rules-lawyering and avoiding repercussions for attacking, now the next chapter can declare that you broke the rules and need to be killed. Oh wait, that's not going to happen because the giant didn't think things through and doesn't want his ****-up to derail everything. So I guess it arbitrarily doesn't count.

It's not arbitrary. The priests and assorted bodyguards in the room aren't idiots, they can tell the difference between throwing a staff at someone out of frustration when it causes no harm vs. attacking with the intent to kill her. Plus, the game works on attack rolls and Roy did not make an attack roll there, it's just an illustration for comic effect, no harm done.

[Basement Cat]

This feels badly written. Good job throwing a weapon in the face of someone right after you talk rules-lawyering and avoiding repercussions for attacking, now the next chapter can declare that you broke the rules and need to be killed. Oh wait, that's not going to happen because the giant didn't think things through and doesn't want his ****-up to derail everything. So I guess it arbitrarily doesn't count.

During their fight the HPoH warned Wrecan that the Church of Hel couldn't be held accountable for any harm he suffered if he got in way (so to speak).

So Roy's just taking a page from Durkula's book.

EDIT: Here's the strip.

[Vendanna]

Obviously Roy continues downsizing Hel's church Staff... :D

[8BitNinja]

This feels badly written. Good job throwing a weapon in the face of someone right after you talk rules-lawyering and avoiding repercussions for attacking, now the next chapter can declare that you broke the rules and need to be killed. Oh wait, that's not going to happen because the giant didn't think things through and doesn't want his ****-up to derail everything. So I guess it arbitrarily doesn't count.

He could've aggravated an attack and caused the HPoH to attack, causing the entire moot to come and defend him due to the breaking of the rules

[Quibblicious]

Way to stick it to 'em, Roy.

I have no shame...

[silphael]

Too bad, It was such a nice stick.

Hold on, throwing a thing at someone's face can definitely be construed as an attack. Why would Roy assume that a weak throw with non-lethal intent is any less of a cause for his own destruction than using a throwing weapon?

No attack roll would pretty much do it.

[silversaraph]

So... couldn't Wrecan kill Veldrina, since her god also voted "yes"? It would take all of ten minutes to resurrect her afterwards...

[Sniffnoy]

Hm -- Durkula may be in trouble without his staff. Then again, he is heading to the dwarven lands, and I gather that there he can probably stay underground with little problem. But this is at least a potential new vulnerability.

[Unbodied]

last we saw belkar, he was about to face down a pretty nasty vampire, i worry he might come in with slightly sharper teeth than before.............. ;(

Fifty imaginary bucks says that next time we see Belkar he's going to be casually strolling past a pile of dead vampires that he just killed.
The drama at the church is over now after all. The real problem now is catching up to Not-Durkon and stopping him. Plus its Belkar.

[The gF]

So... couldn't Wrecan kill Veldrina, since her god also voted "yes"? It would take all of ten minutes to resurrect her afterwards...

She is not the vote herself in the same way. Veldrina represents an entire Pantheon, and her absence would not prevent the vote of another pantheon from counting, since they are all gathered at their own godsmoot elsewhere. She's just the messenger, whereas the high priests of each god personally represent the message, as it were.

[8BitNinja]

So... couldn't Wrecan kill Veldrina, since her god also voted "yes"? It would take all of ten minutes to resurrect her afterwards...

Do you want to die in horrible, unnatural ways by the wrath of the gods?

[Vendanna]

So... couldn't Wrecan kill Veldrina, since her god also voted "yes"? It would take all of ten minutes to resurrect her afterwards...

First, that's too rude. Second Veldrina has Zilch effect on the vote. she was here only to inform of the votes of the East panteon? even if she was killed it wouldn't change anything.

Also, she needs to stay alive, she has a tiger to take care for!

[8BitNinja]

If anyone is killed, nothing good will come of it

[The Succubus]

Oopsie. Accidents happen.

[8BitNinja]

Still no Simon Belmont?

Okay

[Ezekiel]

And if you order 1 staff now, we'll give it to you half off!

*shows himself out*

[Demidos]

@ the Giant, in the second strip the HPOO's comment should probably be amended to

"Yes, I'm afraid so."

instead of

"Yes, I am afraid."

The second technically works, but it sounds really wonky, and should probably at least replace yes with "That is correct" or something similar.

[wolfdreams01]

Great comic, Rich! Once again, Roy shows that Lawful Good is not Lawful Stupid.