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Thread: Got any Dice Questions?
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2007-07-14, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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New shape would be very tough as there are no blanks for them ... I am working on getting blanks made in a 3d Printer (Rapid Prototyper) ... but I have to find someone willing to work with me .. as I have developed many new shapes of dice
No but is a good idea ... I will have to consider it for a gamer I know that regularly 'fudges' dice rolls
I think that is even better than threatening with the large metal d20'sLast edited by Kevin_Cook; 2007-07-14 at 12:09 AM.
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Does guinness count the dice you made out of what appears to be paper?
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Re: Got any Dice Questions?
Can I use your site as a reference to prove to my parents that I do not have a dice collecting problem? They think over 100 are too many. Pff.
If there's a rule, there's someone out there trying to figure out how to get around it just to piss off his DM.
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2007-07-14, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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How many total sides do you have,
e.g. if I had a 2d10, 1d20 and a d4, I would have 44 sides.
how long would it take to calculate the above?
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2007-07-14, 02:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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^ Dear god man, you don't have to pose some math problem on him ^
Exam question: I have a collection of d6s, d4s, and d20s. The total amount of dice I have is 37, the total amount of sides is 462, how many of each die do I own?
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2007-07-14, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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LOL ... Fine by me :)
I am going to stop counting the new questions from this thread ... as is seems everyone has a new one !
Yet still another new question ... you people/creatures are great !
Hmm ... never tired it :)
how long would it take to calculate the above?
If anyone cares to use a bit outdated data ... feel free to use THIS page do it
Been too many years since graduation (20 to be exact) ... I think my math minor got lost in the mists of time :)
6x + 4y + 20z = 462
x + y + z = 37
Solve for x
x = 37 - y - z
Reinsert
6(36 - y - z) + 4y + 20z = 462
216 - 6y - 6z + 4y + 20z = 462
-4y + 14z = 246
-2y + 7z = 123
-2y = 123 - 7z
y = -(123 - 7z)/2
Reinsert
x = 37 + (123 - 7z)/2 - z
I think we need a 3rd equation
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2007-07-14, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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19 20 siders, 5 6 siders, 13 4 siders. (380+30+52)
Or, 18 20 siders, 13 6 siders, 6 4 siders. (360+78+24)
Or,
Illegal problem. Too few equations. Particularly given that we have 2 equations, 3 variables, the fact that multiple answers rise is problematic.
Don't ask how I got that.
Let's see if I can explain. Ok, so
x+y+z = 37.
4x+6y+20z= 462.
2y+16z = 314 (-4(x+y+z) = -148)
y+8z = 157.
8z = 157 -y
Number of 6 sided dice must therefore be 5, 13, 21, etc. 21 doesn't work, as 136 > 16*8 (128). 13 and 5 do, as 24*8 > 152.
It's not a proof, but I haven't taken nough math (yet) to know how to properly solve this.Last edited by Arbitrarity; 2007-07-14 at 10:45 AM.
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2007-07-14, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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What is the rate of growth of your collection? Has the rate accelerated over the years, or is it slowing down now that you're reaching the limit of how many dice can possibly be collected?
Related question: What percentage of the maximum possible number of unique dice that could be collected do you think you own?
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2007-07-14, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have a PAGE for that as well ... with all the new dice being released ... I dont see a slowdown
Related question: What percentage of the maximum possible number of unique dice that could be collected do you think you own?
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2007-07-14, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-14, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Do you have a mathematics background?
Does your geometry kick extend beyond dice (to products like zome, or studies of polytopes or configurations)?
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2007-07-14, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes ... I have a Bachelors in Computer Science and minor in mathmatics
Does your geometry kick extend beyond dice (to products like zome, or studies of polytopes or configurations)?
No ... but I suspect he just takes them and makes me forget that I ever owned them :)
<Hmmm ... lets see ... I like these>
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2007-07-14, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmn. I have First Quest, Dragon Quest and Dragon Strike, with the original dice. I noticed that the sets are very similar, but not exactly the same. Do you know why?
I noticed recently that a 1D10 I had been using from Dark World is a deeper red than the conventional 1D10 of the same proportions. Any ideas why?
Do you have the 1D8 from The Key to the Kingdom?It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after one’s own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between.
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Do you have any experience with blank dice? I'm thinking of getting some blank d20s to mark up on my own; do you know of any good companies for this?
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2007-07-15, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Using back of envelope method.
Dice substitution Eqn.
X, Y, Z = # of 4, 6, 20 siders
4X + 20Z = 6Y,
X + Z = Y,
X,Y,Z integers, >= 0
has unique (up to multiples) soln. (X=7,Y=8,Z=1)
ie (A) 1(d20) - 8(d6) + 7 (d4) = 0
So 1(d20) and 7(d4) is equivalent to 8(d8)
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Main Eqn.s
U, V, W = # of 4, 6, 20 siders
(B) U,V,W (integers) >=0
(C): 4U + 6V + 20W = 462;
soln.(1): (W=22, V=3, U=1)
(D): T(:=U+V+W) = 37
T1 = 26
Using (2) 1(d20) eqv to 5(d4), dT2=4
and (3) 2(d6) eqv to 3(d4), dT3=1
soln.(4) = soln.(1) + 3(2) - 1(3), T4 = T1 + 3(dT2) - 1(dT3) = 37
So soln.(4) (W=19, V=5, U=13), satisfies (B),(C),&(D)
Combining with (A) gives additional soln.:
soln.(4) + (A) = (W=18, V=13, U=6)
All other combination of soln.(4) and (A) do not satisfy (B)
Therefore you have either (13 d4s, 5 d6s, and 19 d20s) or (6 d4s, 13 d6s, and 18 d20s)
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2007-07-15, 08:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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I cannot be certain as those modules/boxes/games were released about 16-18 years after I started gaming and as such ... I overlooked them ... so I am not sure which dice accompanied them
Assuming that they were what were later called Dragon Dice ... I can say they were made by differing manufacturers which could account for the differences
WHICH REMINDS ME ... that is another thing I am looking for ... the Original Dragon Dice Polyhedrals and AD&D Adventure Gaming Dice Set in their original blister packs ... released in the early 90's
Do you have the 1D8 from The Key to the Kingdom?
That is the secure database for Guinness to download for verification purposes ... along with publications about the collection as well as witnesses ... that is what makes a Guinness claim
Yes ... Chessex is your best source at this time ... If you provide them with the graphics ... they will even custom laser engrave them for you! ... [email protected]
I have received a couple of direct emails / PM's from readers of this thread asking either to trade MTG (Magic the Gathering) spindowns or asking what spindowns I am looking for ...
At present ... this is what I am trading for / in need of
RED ONSLAUGHT
WHITE ONSLAUGHT
RED JUDGEMENT
BLACK JUDGEMENT
BLACK TORMENT
GREEN/BLUE TORMENT
RED ODYSSEY
RED APOCALYPSE
BLACK APOCALYPSE
Which brings up a question that you may be able to help me with ...
At Origins ... I was told by a MTG vendor that I am missing 2 entire series of spindowns from my collection of spindowns ... Can anyone confirm this ... I know the series' that they say are missing but wont post them here ... as I would like to see if anyone else can confirm it unpromptedLast edited by Kevin_Cook; 2007-07-15 at 08:40 AM.
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Hmmn, I did find some pictures somewhere, but I forget Have to look into it. What about the 'darker Red D10'?
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Dragon Quest
Dragon Strike
First Quest
What threw me was their close similarity.
Based on This Picture it seems to just be a common d8 ... Am I incorrect?Last edited by Matthew; 2007-07-15 at 08:49 AM.
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2007-07-15, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ok .. those are just common Chessex dice ... as Chessex used at least 4 different manufacturers (England, Germany, Denmark, Taiwan) with 4 different molds (yes I know it is ANAL for me to record this infor ... but noone else will ... not even Chessex) ... This could explain the differences
Notice that THIS SET is also Chessex
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2007-07-15, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right, thanks for answering that. I could never figure out why the Black 1D10 was different, but I think that official Blister Pack answers that, they wer added onto a conventional pack! The Light Blue 1D8 from First Quest must be down to different manufacturers, as you say.
Any ideas about the Darker Red 1D10 from Dark World?Last edited by Matthew; 2007-07-15 at 09:11 AM.
It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after one’s own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between.
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That is a Koplow D10
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2007-07-15, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right, but all the Koplow Red Dice I own (and have seen) are a lighter shade than this 1D10; are there different shades of Red usually available or are they restricted to time period?
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It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after one’s own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between.
– Yoshida Kenko (1283-1350), Tsurezure-Gusa (1340)
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2007-07-15, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am sure it is just a manufacturing variance ... not every batch of color will ever be exactly the same ...
Koplow pretty much has 6 basic colors which may vary slightly from batch to batch
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Did the source of dice questions dry up?
I will post to this thread on a monthly basis ... a link to my Highlights for the previous month ... that usually generates some questions ... this month will be a big month as I have added 770 new dice already this month ... and there are more on the way
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