He-Man and the Masters of the Universe

[Ramsus]

Since you've already claimed vanillager, I'm not sure it's a good idea to CFD someone else when they wouldn't necessarily have time to notice and claim and for us to switch off them and back to you/someone else. (How much longer is this day anyway?)

[Fleeing Coward]

This is everyone on my low post list who have posted at least twice from WW Two towers on Day 2


Sprig 2
Indarra 2
Thematthew 2
Pelican 3
Duck 3
Sangenkai 4
Zar Peter 4
Lex 4

3 wolves out of 8.
I guess that says something.

You conveniently forget to mention the 4 people who posted less than 2 posts which would actually make 3 wolves out of 12 in the "low post" list and the other 2 were in the high post side out of 11 which is perfectly normal distribution.

Luizeu

[Luizeu]

This is everyone on my low post list who have posted at least twice from WW Two towers on Day 2


Sprig 2
Indarra 2
Thematthew 2
Pelican 3
Duck 3
Sangenkai 4
Zar Peter 4
Lex 4

3 wolves out of 8.
I guess that says something.

Did you read this part ?

[Lex-Kat]

1 ¹/₂ more hours.

[Fleeing Coward]

Did you read this part ?

Selectively choosing statistics to make it seem like you have a decent case for your proposal is wolfy in itself. The whole picture shows a perfectly acceptable distribution of wolves in both the high and low post counts and thus there is no need for us to specifically target only those with low post counts.

[Luizeu]

Well, this is it.
When I flip town, I would like you to consider these posts:

Syldar

I'm just gonna jump on the bandwagon, due to zero info... The duck shall perish!

(note how we used similar reasons but Elenna considered only my post suspicious.)

Changing my vote to Luizeu because his "I want to join a wagon" post struck me as off, and because as far as I can tell there is absolutely no reason to think Ramsus is a wolf.

All below posted only once:
bladescape
Maleceptor
JohnTheSavage
TFT
Silent_Interim
Pelican

Also, FC

Lynching inactives is just a waste of a lynch. All I'm seeing is you digging yourself deeper into a hole with every post Luizeu.
Probably means you're not a wolf or mason since I'm sure your teammates would have told you that you'd have a better chance of surviving if you posted less if you were

Doesn't believe I could be a mason or a wolf, but still votes for me

[Fleeing Coward]

Also, FC

Doesn't believe I could be a mason or a wolf, but still votes for me

Yes, at the time I posted that, I did not believe you were likely to be wolf. Then you started fudging statistics and that's something I can't overlook

[Lex-Kat]

Day is over. ¹/₂ hour early, but I don't see things changing enough to make a difference.

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He-Man
and the Masters of the Universe
Day 1

Suspicion was the name of the game the first day. No one could trust who was really one of them, and who was another faker. too often they'd see one of their own, then see that same hero walking on the other side of the room. But when they turned to confront the first.... he was gone, likely looking for hints and allegations of their own.

Two guard's loyalty become the most contested. The young knight Luizeu and the elder sergeant at arms, Ramsus. Ramsus just looked around the room, eying those who were whispering his name. some jumped on this bandwagon, others jumped off. And near the end, a few who'd jumped on, jumped back off and even began pointing at the younger knight.

Luizeu, noticing that the tide was growing against him began to plead with those around him. "Please, let us look at hose among us who are the most quiet. You know what they say, right? The silent ones are the most dangerous."

Unfortunately, this logic did not help him, but seemed to enrage the would-be heroes. Something that is very unbecoming of those the world of Eternia would call heroes, to be sure. But this was not their true nature, but the spell that had been cast over them, and they had not realized it's power just yet. They pulls out their weapons, and began thwacking and slashing the young man. When they stepped away, they found the body of Zodac laying before them. An alien who often aided Eternia when outer-dimensional enemies threatened the stability of this world.

Luizeu was lynched. He was a Villager.

Night 1 Begins
It will end in approximately 24 hours (Thursday night/Friday morning)

Missed 1 Day

Indarra thematthew Smuchmuch

Missed 2 Days

A-L Replacements

Player List

Spoiler: Player List

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#	Player	Character	Occupation	Died?	When?
01	AvatarVecna
02	bladescape
03	Cuthalion
04	Duck999
05	Elenna
06	Flaming Eagle
07	Fleeing Coward
08	Indarra
09	JohnTheSavage
10	Logic
11	Maleceptor
12	matthew, the
13	Murska
14	necrochicken
15	Pelican
16	Phantom, the
17	Ramsus
18	Silent_Interim
19	Smuchmuch
20	Syldar
21	TFT
22	Xihirli
23	Zar Peter
01	Luizeu	Zodac	Villager	Thwacking and Slashing	Day 1

[Lex-Kat]

Sorry. I need to delay the game for half-a-day or so. I'm not feeling well at the moment, and can't think good enough. Sorry.

[necrochicken]

Sorry. I need to delay the game for half-a-day or so. I'm not feeling well at the moment, and can't think good enough. Sorry.

Hope you get well soon

[Lex-Kat]

He-Man
and the Masters of the Universe
Night 1

At the order of King Randor, new guards were brought in and everyone was escorted to their own chambers, where they were locked in for their own safety, as well as that of the others. All three of the Sorceresses took this opportunity to attempt to see into the future and unravel the mystery of who was friend and who was foe. Yes, there was three, for Evil-Lyn has guised herself as the Grayskull guardian as well, just to add to the confusion.

One of the Sorceresses believes she sees a hero in disguise. The other sees a hero camouflaged. And the third.... she believes she is about to see the true form of one of them, when two powerful and furry hands are wrapped around her throat. Beastman lifts the woman up and begins to choke her.

Sorceress fights back, calling her staff to hand with a flick of her wrist. She clubs the animalistic brute over the head, but this just annoys him. With a loud growl that fills the castle, Beastman squeezes harder until Sorceress passes out. He continues to strangle her, until a voice inside his pea-sized mind reminds him that Skeletor wants both of the sorceresses taken alive. He throws the unconscious woman over his shoulder and leaves her room.

AvatarVecna was lynched. He was either Orko or Sorceress.

Day 2 Begins
It will end in approximately 60 hours (Sunday night/Monday morning)

Missed 1 Day

Indarra thematthew Smuchmuch

Missed 2 Days

A-L Replacements

Luizeu AvatarVecna

Player List

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#	Player	Character	Occupation	Died?	When?
01	bladescape
02	Cuthalion
03	Duck999
04	Elenna
05	Flaming Eagle
06	Fleeing Coward
07	Indarra
08	JohnTheSavage
09	Logic
10	Maleceptor
11	matthew, the
12	Murska
13	necrochicken
14	Pelican
15	Phantom, the
16	Ramsus
17	Silent_Interim
18	Smuchmuch
19	Syldar
20	TFT
21	Xihirli
22	Zar Peter
02	AvatarVecna	Sorceress/Orko	Seer/Fool	Choked Unconscious	Night 1
01	Luizeu	Zodac	Villager	Thwacking and Slashing	Day 1

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Hope you get well soon

I just needed a nights rest, thank you.

[AvatarVecna]

"With my last breath, I curse Zoidburg!!!"

[Maleceptor]

Glad you're feeling better Lex.

Elenna! because going after luizeu and not even making mention of syldar is weird.

[Logic]

What a weird day 1. All of you guys and your vote switching.

Going to point at Ramsus to cause another tie.

Ramsus, because ties are funny.

I have two suspects today, for the same reason. With the "Tie-Kat" rule in place, a tie results in no lynch, but instead voids both parties for a day and night. This works out great if both are actually town, but not so great if one of them is a wolf. Can anyone actually see any advantages to forcing a no-lynch situation, when the only way town can get rid of wolves is with the lynch?

I would think that both TFT and Murska would know to read the initial rules regarding ties. I am fairly certain both are more experienced than I am, so maybe they have reasons behind the votes than their stated ones, but I can't see where a tie benefits town more than the wolves.

Murska, because I think he (probably) knows better, and forced a tie for the second time.

Glad you're feeling better Lex.

Elenna! because going after luizeu and not even making mention of syldar is weird.

I can't speak for Elenna, but my thought process was thus: Slydar is a newbie, so I think jumping on a bandwagon early for no reason other than "to join a bandwagon" is a tad more forgivable than for Luizeu, who has (I think) close to a year's worth of Werewolf games under his belt.

[Cuthalion]

*pulls string on one of those toddler toys with the animals and sounds* "The die says..... Zar Peter."

Random d1 vote... or is it?

So that's where all my wolf roles go!

Joke

To answer your question (well, observation) Logic, I've been quiet because I wanted to see if the wagon would just go away on it's own without me doing anything*. Also giving FC the chance to pull off on his own to maybe even make the slightest attempt at proving he doesn't have to compulsively vote for me/try to get me killed in every single game we're in and could maybe just maybe have put in a little effort to avoid us having more drama instead of forcing all the work of avoiding our having confrontations onto me. But of course not. Why would he do that?

So yeah, I guess by now Luizeu would have claimed something if he is something...maybe. Well ok, whatever. He hasn't claimed anything, he's already on my wagon, his is the other biggest wagon, and I don't want to get lynched quite yet. Hope that's enough justification for my vote.

Edit: *Because 50% of the time I defend myself people make a big deal about how I'm being "too defensive" and then use that as an excuse to try and convince more people to lynch me.

Half-OMGUS

@FC: You can be sarcastic about it all you want. You're still voting for me day 1 when you know it's not a good idea for you personally to do so if your interest is avoiding drama. You're certainly not going to convince me of anything using words when your actions speak otherwise.

Edit: *briefly wonders what the drow society of Dark Sun is like* *stops wondering because he realizes they're probably just all dead because mushrooms aren't going to grow very well in an environment lacking moisture*

Ramsus being Ramsus, also provoking reactions.

Since you've already claimed vanillager, I'm not sure it's a good idea to CFD someone else when they wouldn't necessarily have time to notice and claim and for us to switch off them and back to you/someone else. (How much longer is this day anyway?)

This reads a little scum to me, as it's basically just saying well, we're okay with lynching you.

Ramsus for now since there's nobody better to vote for.

[Pelican]

The only Ramsus post that seemed off to me was the "that's where all my wolf roles go" one, but that's more likely to be nothing than something. I'd rather vote for Elanna today for (possibly) flinching at the three-way tie early on, and because of her positioning/vote switch on the Luizeu wagon.

[Indarra]

I don't like these day one wagons. How about Xihirli instead?

EDIT: 3 separate players have two votes each with only 6 votes cast? Something doesn't seem right here.

Changing to Luizeu.

Luizeu

Because everyone loves the number 3.

The first few people who voted for Luizeu should probably be treated with some suspicion here. I'm going to go with Logic until a better choice comes up.

Where is the Alpha? Where did that menace of the skies fly off to now?

[Thematthew]

I like the Murska line of thought, I'm still double checking things from the previous day though.

[Maleceptor]

I can't speak for Elenna, but my thought process was thus: Slydar is a newbie, so I think jumping on a bandwagon early for no reason other than "to join a bandwagon" is a tad more forgivable than for Luizeu, who has (I think) close to a year's worth of Werewolf games under his belt.

Still seems weird to me. Luizeu's reasoning for voting was in response to slydar.

I'm just gonna jump on the bandwagon, due to zero info... The duck shall perish!

I want to join a wagon too

Ramsus

[Murska]

The idea behind voting to tie is not to have the day end in a tie, but to force someone else to break the tie and then see if knowing who does and which way it goes gives out useful information.

[Ramsus]

Cuthalion for voting for me on my birthday. I'll maybe change my vote later if I find logic compelling or see something interesting.

Edit: Murska is right though about the reason why we'd want to approach ties. Then again it's a mildly dangerous tactic any day except day 1 where the wolves have powers to mess with the lynch or might just decide it's in their benefit to make sure nobody gets lynched at all.

[ThePhantom]

Its your birthday Ramsus? Happy birthday. My present to you is this, Cuthalion.

[necrochicken]

The first few people who voted for Luizeu should probably be treated with some suspicion here. I'm going to go with Logic until a better choice comes up.

Where is the Alpha? Where did that menace of the skies fly off to now?

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Logic [/COLOR]Is my suspicion now, ditto.

[Xihirli]

Okay, this is going to be my ATTEMPT at logical reasoning.

The person to start a bandwagon rarely knows that it will become a bandwagon. If Logic started the wagon intentionally, he'd need the help of the other wolves to ensure it.
Luizeu is not big enough of a target to justify that massive risk.
I have more suspicion of the people who want Logic lynched right now. Necrochicken(flump?) voted for Logic twice, but Indarra came up with what I see to be bad reasoning. I don't want to set a precedent for killing people for bad reasoning, though, so I'll give Ramsus a birthday present and lynch Cuthalion the narrator.
Or maybe I'm a wolf using a bandwagon to kill Cuthalion, the BANER, who our devil scried last night! Maybe I'M the devil! WIFOM!

[TFT]

I would think that both TFT and Murska would know to read the initial rules regarding ties.

You would be wrong. TFT ends up focusing on his new job an is distracted by other things and forgets to doublecheck the rules for something weird or different. I did just set up a tie to for the reason Murska stated(Trying to use it to gain more information).

Speaking of which, currently working, so I will put off any other sort of responses/saying things until after that.

[Fleeing Coward]

Elenna seems like a decent target for today but I'm open to lynching Xihirli on principle. Claiming devil in multiple games is not funny, it's just plain anti-town. If he insists on doing it every game, I say we keep lynching him for it until he learns to stop doing it.

[Elenna]

Glad you're feeling better Lex.

Elenna! because going after luizeu and not even making mention of syldar is weird.

When I made that post, I was thinking that putting my vote on one of the bandwagons would be more useful, both for killing wolves and for vote analysis purposes, hence my focus on Luizeu and Ramsus. Also, Luizeu was more experienced, as Logic said.

The only Ramsus post that seemed off to me was the "that's where all my wolf roles go" one, but that's more likely to be nothing than something. I'd rather vote for Elanna today for (possibly) flinching at the three-way tie early on, and because of her positioning/vote switch on the Luizeu wagon.

Flinching at the three-way tie? I didn't respond at all to the tie. Unless my lack of response is what you're suspicious of? In that case, all I can say is that there was a lot of random voting going on and I had no particular suspicions to share at the time.

The first few people who voted for Luizeu should probably be treated with some suspicion here. I'm going to go with Logic until a better choice comes up.

Where is the Alpha? Where did that menace of the skies fly off to now?

Unless Ramsus is a wolf (which I don't think is what you are suggesting), there is no reason for there to be more wolves voting for Luizeu than anyone else. (Actually, Middle Earth WW proved that there may not have been wolves voting for Luizeu even if Ramsus does turn out to be a wolf. )

I'm tempted to vote Indarra for this, but on the other hand she's new so it could very well be an honest mistake.

Cuthalion because birthdays are fun. I'll probably change this once I find something actually suspicious.

[Pelican]

Wow there has got to be at least one wolf voting for Cuthalion right now. Four people voting for someone just because it's Ramsus's birthday (Happy birthday Ramsus! Congratulations on going for X years without dying!) when there is plenty of information to go on in terms of actual suspects is way too many. Might as well stay on Elenna, but FoS on Phantom as well.

[Syldar]

Elenna for hollow and hypocritical logic on her first day vote, voting for someone absent on the first day, and general acting suspicious. And for the various reasons others have given for her doom. Non sequitur, but I seriously hope that the fool was the guy taken last night. We need sorcerous power on our side.

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Ramsus and Xihiril are suspicious as well, though. Open to voting on them.

[Logic]

Due to the sensible explanations of both Murska and TFT, my suspicion level on each of them is lower. TFT is slightly less, as he echoed Murska.

I am most suspicious of Xihirli at the moment. Even if he is town, he is distracting enough that he is almost a bonus villain. I don't think I can be convinced to vote for one of the two* leading wagons. Perhaps with some better justification or evidence, but at the moment, I don't see what you guys see.

*Elenna and Cuthalion