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2016-07-18, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Confessions!
1. Instead of "I'm gonna teach you country music", I read "I'm gonna teach you autism".
2. I feel much less worried about terrorism since it has become rampant around here.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2016-07-19, 12:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm a Lawful Good Human PaladinJustice and honor are a heavy burden for the righteous. We carry this weight so that the weak may grow strong and the meek grow brave
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2016-07-19, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's a whole lot of space between "not prioritizing your spouse and children" and "not having any adult relationships outside of family and work" that you're completely glossing over. Lots of people (in fact, I daresay the vast majority of people) can have friends that they spend time with outside of work while continuing to put their children first. It does seem to be the case that many people find it easier to socialize with friends who have children of about the same age, but that's more of a "two birds, one stone" thing since people only have so much time and children take up a lot of it.
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2016-07-19, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I hate it when people don't use correct grammar or use words in an inappropriate context.
For example, I did not offend you, I insulted you. If I stole from you, then I would've offended you.I'm a Lawful Good Human PaladinJustice and honor are a heavy burden for the righteous. We carry this weight so that the weak may grow strong and the meek grow brave
— The Acts of Iomedae, Pathfinder
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2016-07-20, 04:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not certain what you refer to here; "to offend" simply means "to cause displeasure in" in contemporary use. It's derived from Latin "of - fendere" - "to strike against"/"to displease". Its primary modern use is to express feeling irritated/annoyed/enraged by somebody. Being offended would be a direct result of being insulted - therefore either seems like a completely reasonable word choice.
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2016-07-20, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-07-20, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's not the responsibility of an adult to have no friends, so that perspective, while interesting, doesn't relate to the initial point of discussion.
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2016-07-20, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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I seriously don't like fire drills.
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2016-07-20, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-07-20, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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What a bizarre paradigm! An adult often doesn't have the luxury of only working with people they would call friends, but that doesn't mean they have no one outside the family they would call for help when Grandpa comes to their house to convalesce after breaking his hip. An adult can work long hours to support his family and have neighbors over for the game on Sunday afternoon (and have neighbors they wouldn't invite over). An adult may have close, longtime confidantes outside the family, as well as people they know but wouldn't confide in. And on and on...
The distinction between acquaintance and friend is not merely an idle game of childlike minds. (But then, the idea that any measure of idleness constitutes a failing of maturity is its own bizarre notion.)Last edited by Lethologica; 2016-07-20 at 05:20 PM.
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2016-07-20, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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So just fyi, your attitude is deeply offensive to adults who have not been blessed with children as of yet. Using the word as it is commonly used in modern language.
Also, your attitude towards leisure is... unfortunate, and not at all recommended for many professions. The brain requires rest and leisure to function optimally. Unless, of course, you want the people designing safety equipment to make small but significant errors that may kill people and break things. Or, you want to consider the people who safeguard other people's lives and property with their brains "children".This signature is no longer incredibly out of date, but it is still irrelevant.
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2016-07-20, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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That is not in the word's natural etymology nor is it the most commonly used definition. The word has about 5 different senses in dictionaries, one of which is "to violate a moral/religious/criminal law" - it's worth noting that's not the "original" and it has no special claim to being the "best" or "correct" one. That's not the most common nor the only definition and indeed, even that meaning includes religious and criminal law as well. The limitation could exist in your own personal idiolect, but that would be utterly pointless: the meanings of words are essentially defined in communication situations (which is why the various language planning efforts usually fail horribly). Thus, a single person holding onto a non-standard meaning doesn't yet even mean that said meaning exists far as the dialect or the language is concerned. One person seeing and animal and naming it is likewise not an event that occurs within a language; once the name is shared and various speakers recognize it and it can be used in communication situations does it properly become a part of the language. Same applies to various restrictions and limitations in a word's use. The lexical meaning of words (or the units of meaning; e.g. in Chinese, a single hanzi grapheme tends to be the smallest unit they define lexical meaning in) in general needs to be sufficiently shared among the speakers of the language for the word to properly convey what it is intended to (and to exist as a unit of the language).
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2016-07-20, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, can we talk about this conflation of having friends with cheating on one's spouse and neglecting one's child(ren)? I mean, in a perspective full of strange notions, that one surely has to top the list. As if friends must be in opposition to family! As if having meaningful connections outside the family is the same as breaking your partner's trust! I just don't get that. Surely we can condemn this coworker's complete disregard for his family without condemning the very idea of friendship among adults.
Uh? I was going to say something similar, but then I checked EtymOnline, and "to sin against" is very much the equivalent of "to commit a moral crime against," so I decided that wasn't a correct objection. Was I mistaken?Last edited by Lethologica; 2016-07-20 at 06:58 PM.
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2016-07-20, 07:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I do believe that's the earliest English adoption of the word. However, as that site succinctly points out, the origin of the word lies in Latin where it simply means "fendere" - "to strike" and "ob-", "toward/against". So the original meaning of the word is "to strike against something" with attached figurative senses such as "to slight something". Even the Old French from where the word is loaned uses it in a general meaning of "to transgress/antagonize something" so the analysis of "to sin against something" being the original meaning is only correct if we consider words to originate separately for each language, an untenable position in the case of loanwords (indeed, a sharp division of languages is in and of itself somewhat hard to justify; languages tend towards dialect spectrums that blend together in contact situations, rather than clear, separate units). Indeed, the original English meaning is in and of itself a specific alteration of the original Latin meaning, so if one is to be puritanian about language, it's not a word one should use in the first place.
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2016-07-20, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yup.
I don't spend any time considering who my friends are vs acquaintances. Excluding family and colleagues, there are those people I'd actively seek out to spend leisure time with, or confide in, and there are those other people I know only well enough to nod to and talk about the weather. My brain isn't so idle that I'm sitting there mentally dividing people I know into different categories; it's just something that happens.
To say nothing of those people for whom having children isn't a "yet", but a "never". This actually came up in a fairly serious way that I can't go into detail about for forum rules regions over here a couple of weeks ago, where someone made the assertion that someone else was effectively not fit for their job (or the job they were being conisdered for) because they didn't have children, and the speaker did. Hilarity ensued.
Yeah, that's just messed up.
I think what we have here is a very narrow and idiosyncratic view of "adulthood" that's almost entirely synonymous with responsibility, and which doesn't account for or accept anything outside a fairly narrow range of experience. Even the dismissal of college students as non-adults for the reasons given seems offhand and overgeneralised: while it's true that the level of responsibility they have tends to be relatively low, they are often surviving on a low income, dealing with the same issues of accommodation and independent living as anyone else, working longer and harder on their studies than many people do in their paid jobs, and maintaining paying jobs on the side... Some of them do even have children of their own. The "lazy, irresponsible students" angle is one that infuriates me, not so much for my own sake (I can't pretend to have been a model student) but for all those out there who are damned by association with a relatively small proportion of stereotypes. As for the retirees who've worked and saved most of their lives to have enough money to retire only to be condemned as children because they're not devoting every waking moment to the service of others, that's even worse.
There's also what seems to be a current of anti-intellectualism in this view which I must say I don't really care for.Last edited by Aedilred; 2016-07-20 at 09:02 PM.
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2016-07-20, 11:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why is it that every time I go on a thread, I get into an argument about words?
I'm a Lawful Good Human PaladinJustice and honor are a heavy burden for the righteous. We carry this weight so that the weak may grow strong and the meek grow brave
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2016-07-20, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, this and the rest of the responses.
That they're badwrongnegative attitudes is what makes them confessions,
that are a matter of introspection not pride.To be clear I don't think it's healthy for oneself to resent the comfortable, but I confess that I do, and it's a bias I struggle with.
To dig the hole even deeper of the people I encounter at work, most of the cops seem like grown-ups, most of the folks in the district attorney's office seem like kids, most of the public defenders office (even the very young interns) seem like grown-ups, and most of the inmates in the jail (some quite old) seem like kids.
But as I said earlier:
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.- Benjamin Franklin
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I'm a Lawful Good Human PaladinJustice and honor are a heavy burden for the righteous. We carry this weight so that the weak may grow strong and the meek grow brave
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2016-07-21, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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This signature is no longer incredibly out of date, but it is still irrelevant.
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Despite everyone around having "boyfriends and girlfriends in grade school" (I remember one guy who had a new "girlfriend every week) I always thought it was stupid. Even when I got into high school up to my Sophomore year I thought it was stupid that most guys I knew had girlfriends. This might be that I come from a very traditional family with very traditional values (something I am proud of).
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2016-07-25, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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I always did care a lot about getting a girlfriend until about my sophomore year, when I realised I didn't actually like any of the people at my school enough to want to date them anymore, my initial desire for it was more likely just a personal rejection of my being rejected by others and the social pressure related to the subject.
And my confession: Actually diagnosed autistic individuals(but still people capable of intelligent conversation) have found me too socially awkward to talk to for long periods of time.
Another confession: Whenever speaking to someone about our thoughts and opinions I will always unintentionally be the weird one of the two, no matter who they are. And when it comes to topics that interest me I'll always be the more obsessive one no matter who I'm speaking to, even the creator of the material I can guarantee has devoted less brain power towards examining the work or general subject matter.
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2016-07-25, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm a Star Wars fan.
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