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2012-11-07, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
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2012-11-07, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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I just finished the N7 challenge and got no pack. I did buy a Premium Spectre Pack, though. And got an Acolyte and Arc Pistol for my troubles. I really wish I could unlock some Soldiers. It's my favorite class, but it's also the one in which I have the fewest unlocked characters.
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2012-11-07, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-07, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is the N7 challenge the same duration as the Halloween challenge? Between a job, wife, kids, NaNoWriMo, DMing a new game starting tomorrow, and having to finish a miniature commission for said game tomorrow I know there's no way I can complete that challenge tonight.
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2012-11-07, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
Don't think of it as a sniper rifle. It's an assault rifle with high accuracy, damage, low recoil, and great clip size. It comes preloaded with a scope so you can use two other mods.
It's actually makes the Drell usable.
Yep. Banner, and a nice one too. Understated, instead of garish.
So stoked they changed the banner title after the challenge ended. Hallowed hero sounds way cooler.
No, friend. Only N7 weekend challenges give commendation packs. Holiday ones don't. And presumably, community challenges wouldn't either. Just a victory pack.
Still, scorpion is boss. It's the best ammo gun there is. If you hit an enemy, every moment the mine is on them is another chance tat the ammo carrier affect takes. Makes fire explosions a snap. Fire once, wait. Boom.
I don't think so. Sorry
Odds are toucan jump into a bronze game most of the way through. Pick up three fast extractions, takes 45 minutes.
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2012-11-07, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think so. Sorry
Odds are toucan jump into a bronze game most of the way through. Pick up three fast extractions, takes 45 minutes.
Just imagine how much we would all have unlocked if they had this stats tracking at Launch.Last edited by CreganTur; 2012-11-07 at 04:42 PM.
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2012-11-07, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-07, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
That Acolyte you got? One of the best pistols, hands down. I have it on almost every one of my kits that doesn't already have a shield-stripping power. Destroyer? Got one. Adept? Got one. It's light and absolutely tears through shields. Also great for applying ammo powers.
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2012-11-07, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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My free pack gave me a Black Widow.
Guess I can't complain, since it was free, but that is very close to the worst pull I could've gotten out of a free ultra-rare weapon.
Kinda ironic that most of this week's "balance" changes are to the totally-irrelevant-to-game-balance Challenges. (Honestly, why did they even bother changing the points some give? The points from the Challenges matter about as much as the points on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?".) Caps on Dragoon numbers are appreciated though. And Praetorians I guess, though honestly I don't think I've ever seen more than four of them in one wave even on gold. Maybe I'm wrong though, I haven't exactly been counting.
And the Geth Soldier is the new unlock this week, eh? Well, they've already put out a fair number of what I want, so I'm not bothered by this one being one I don't. Or I won't be, until it turns out to be in the next Premium pack I pick up, with my luck.
I know that feeling. My favorite class is the Adept, but I don't like the Drell and am not very fond of the Justicar, so I feel like I've only got three of them (Human, Asari, Ex-Cerberus). Meanwhile I'd like to play the newer ones, but no, so far no Fury, Volus, or Krogan. Or Asari Valkyrie, who is basically an Adept with Tech Armor.
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2012-11-07, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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I love the geth trooper. New favorite kit.
Fortification, stronghold and fitness, and my shield recharge is so fast that I have 30% shields back as soon as I sand up from being revived. 52% faster and good gracious is it noticeable!
Powe recharge is unnecessary, so fortification can get the whole defense bonus, 50%. Which means that 50% penalty from Hunter mode is only a 25% penalty, or less with health boosts in fitness. Flamer, powerful, detonatable, and recharges super fast.
I gave him the geth pulse rifle. I added thermal capacity. I have never before had more bullets than I needed. Ever. This is a first. 180 rounds, even with 20% faster RoF, was... It was like pouring a gallon of milk down the sink. You can see the progress but it still takes rever and you get bored. So from now on I'm packing extended barrel and AP mod. Add cryo or incendiary (probably incendiary, keep to the theme) an go to town!
That's what I meant. You could do the whole thing in forty five minutes. Or an hour if you space it out. So why not? One game, do some chores, one more game, etc.
yeah. And the arc pistol is apparently the game's strongest? You don't have to charge it, but of you do it hits for 6x damage – base damage. So it also boosts the ammo damage and such. And passive damage, too.
Per Wave, not spawn. This means that after you rocket all three to five enemies, five more don't appear. I've gotten as far as wave five on platinum where I ran from a group of four praetorians into a group of two praetorians and some scions. Flick the collectors, man. Flick them in their horns
On silver, today I've only ever fought one at a time. You silver players are lucky. But you can't even offhandedly grab a JEqP after a match, so it balances out.Last edited by SiuiS; 2012-11-07 at 07:01 PM.
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2012-11-08, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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You know, I've been meaning to ask: why do you call characters "kits?"
I know. Per wave is what I said there. In one spawn I don't think I've seen more than two, maybe three on gold.
Anyway, I got a Volus Adept tonight! Only thing I got all day worth a damn, but hell, considering my luck of late, I'll take it. Tried him for a couple of games, and oh boy, he's going to take some getting used to. Even having played the Volus Engineer doesn't seem to have fully prepared me for the Adept. Biotic Orbs have such an awful cooldown when activated, yet can be fired without regard for cooldown, which is just a weird combination for me. Makes deciding when to fire the orbs and finding times to bring out a new set crucial, since that cooldown from doing so interferes with the all-important Shield Boost. Also makes using the Orbs in any especially offensive manner rather difficult, which makes the class especially awkward for me in particular. At least the Volus Engineer has Proximity Mine as a general-use offensive power, as awkward as firing that thing can be.
Oh, speaking of the Engineer, I somehow already have three of his four appearance options. This is seriously making me suspect that the "ultra-rare" classes don't actually have a much lower drop rate than the rares - I've gotten more of them in a short period of time than I ever have of the ultra-rare weapons, and there are quite a few more of those than there are ultra-rare classes.
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2012-11-08, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
That's what Bioware call them. See the addition of the Geth Trooper in the balance changes.
It's because there's only two of them. Ultra-rare characters have the same low drop rate as ultra rare weapons, but when you get one there's a 50-50 chance of any particular one. There's a huge amount of rares, though, so while you'll unlock rares quite often the chance of it being any particular one is vanishingly small.Thanks to Veera for the avatar.
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2012-11-08, 03:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Also, the classes are abstractions. Not every human sentinel is limited to the three powers they have. It's a load out: X powers, Y Armor, Z weapons. It gets even more obvious with the geth. They may as well all be the same geth. Several platforms with different optimisations. Why would I not refer to them as kits, in this instance? In my narrative, my shadow and fury are the same person. Some days she picks up her cowl and goes psychotic biotic, other days she puts on a catsuit. Heck, the only difference between battlemaster and shaman is whether you're throwing your Dave at enemies from one meter or thirty.
There are a lot of things that fall apart if you look too hard – such as a squad of four random soldiers of different races being able to fly around a reaper infested foxy pickin up devices left by geth and sabotaging recon stations left by Cerberus. Or occasionally fighting all three at once, while the collectors come out of left field...
Counter query. Why do you call the Phoenix units ex-Cerberus? You don't call the batarians ex-slavers or the Krogan ex-mercenary. And the game itself refers to them as Phoenix [class].
It's because there's only two of them. Ultra-rare characters have the same low drop rate as ultra rare weapons, but when you get one there's a 50-50 chance of any particular one. There's a huge amount of rares, though, so while you'll unlock rares quite often the chance of it being any particular one is vanishingly small.
On the upside, my ammo flood is no more. I've been getting more gear, I have my pistol heavy barrel at 3 (still barely more useful than extended barrel; not worth the weight increase until full rank). And I started the day at particle rifle 2, javelin 1 and ended at particle rifle 3, javelin 3, geth trooper 2 and brawler 4. Pretty slick.
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2012-11-08, 06:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, I've completed Earth Mastery and earned the dubious distinction of having more challenge points than N7 rating. Good times. On the downside, the single thing that stands between me and Cerberus Mastery is 83000 points of Nemeses. Anyone know which difficulty has the most?
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2012-11-08, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-08, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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The Indra seems like a decent weapon. I tried it with my Human Soldier and it worked nicely. The long range helps, given that the Human Soldier is surprisingly squishy. Unfortunately, I got disconnected on Wave 4.
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2012-11-08, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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I love the Indra, but then I've always been a big fan of "more dakka" weapons. (The Revenant is my most-used AR, even more than the Harrier, because of the magazine size.) I slapped it on the Destroyer, and with his fire rate upgrades I was tearing through mobs like butter. Still not a big fan of the Destroyer but that gun made it a little bit fun.
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2012-11-08, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I guess that sort of explains it. Except that now it makes me wonder why Bioware calls them that.
No, that's not what I meant. I meant that I've gotten the ultra-rare characters at a noticeably faster rate than ultra-rare weapons in general, not any particular one specifically. Over the past couple of weeks I've gotten four ultra-rare character cards to one ultra-rare weapon upgrade, not counting the free one yesterday. I'd also swear that I never got ultra-rare weapons in the past at a rate remotely comparable what I have for the characters.
Two reasons. At first, I didn't believe the "Phoenix" thing was an actual in-game term, but a fan one, since the actual announcement of the DLC (as opposed to the leak before it) referred to them as former Cerberus troops - now I know otherwise, obviously.
The second is simply that "Phoenix" sounds just wrong as the name of a Human character class to me (that was also part of why I didn't believe "Phoenix" to be an official term - I just couldn't see it being such). It's too strange and out of place for me, whereas Ex-Cerberus is at least an accurate description of them, and differentiates them from the original Human classes to avoid confusion that would be caused by just using their racial name.*
And of course I wouldn't call Batarians ex-slavers or Krogan ex-mercenaries. They have racial names, and not all Batarians are slavers nor all Krogan mercenaries.
*Speaking of, anyone else wish that Bioware would set those classes to be called something besides just "male human X" in the lobbies? Ditto for the Asari Justicar.
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2012-11-08, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-08, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Welcome, brother! And I know that feel. Reapers are sitting at 99% done – with husks at a solid 87%. My suggestion is to get a class that has large area powers (not just bursts) and spam those on gold. That's where you start getting waves of like, eight nemeses at once. Try solo, if you can do crazy damage with powers in an area and then split you'll be okay. Also, it's points, not kills, so it is entirely possible to get a little extra by not killing them before their shields come back since its base on damage inflicted. Not a sound strategy but technically possible.
What are your thoughts on the Earth Mastery banner? I find it to be one of the best looking ones myself. That alliance symbol is sexy.
The destroyer exists to make weapons you would discount because of their limitations viable. And I find for dakka, the revenant is actually errrr than the typhoon. Fewer actual rounds but slower rate of fire, means you can just blast stuff without fear. Forever. It was a mainstay on my Kroganwalldefensive fighting battlemaster.
Game jargon. They are literally a kit you pick to go into battle with.
No, that's not what I meant. I meant that I've gotten the ultra-rare characters at a noticeably faster rate than ultra-rare weapons in general, not any particular one specifically. Over the past couple of weeks I've gotten four ultra-rare character cards to one ultra-rare weapon upgrade, not counting the free one yesterday. I'd also swear that I never got ultra-rare weapons in the past at a rate remotely comparable what I have for the characters.
Two reasons. At first, I didn't believe the "Phoenix" thing was an actual in-game term, but a fan one, since the actual announcement of the DLC (as opposed to the leak before it) referred to them as former Cerberus troops - now I know otherwise, obviously.
The second is simply that "Phoenix" sounds just wrong as the name of a Human character class to me (that was also part of why I didn't believe "Phoenix" to be an official term - I just couldn't see it being such). It's too strange and out of place for me, whereas Ex-Cerberus is at least an accurate description of them, and differentiates them from the original Human classes to avoid confusion that would be caused by just using their racial name.*
And of course I wouldn't call Batarians ex-slavers or Krogan ex-mercenaries. They have racial names, and not all Batarians are slavers nor all Krogan mercenaries.
*Speaking of, anyone else wish that Bioware would set those classes to be called something besides just "male human X" in the lobbies? Ditto for the Asari Justicar.
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2012-11-08, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
I went through a whole Silver match with a Human Soldier using the Indra, and it worked well - I topped the score board. Which isn't bad given that the Human Soldier is so-so and I was suffering from lag. Of course, a lot of it was spamming Frag Grenades.
And I got Piranha II for my pains. I guess I might actually use it, but I have no idea on which class...Last edited by Morty; 2012-11-08 at 05:21 PM.
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2012-11-08, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Event Description: Resistance movements across the galaxy continue to fight. We will provide these groups with literal firepower, allowing them to stand their ground and protect our homeworlds.
Individual Goal: Earn 75000 points of damage using fire-based powers (Incinerate, Carnage, Inferno Grenade, Flamer, Sentry Turret Flamethrower, Geth Turret Flamethrower) on any map at any difficulty. Points are cumulative across matches. Extraction not required.
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2012-11-08, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Looks like a job for my Krogan Soldier. Between Inferno Grenade, Carnage and fire explosions this should be easy.
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2012-11-08, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's some pretty strange game jargon. Never heard of it anywhere else before. Is it something from shooters or somesuch?
I don't think that normal rares prioritize characters over guns - else it wouldn't be so hard to unlock new characters before maxing out all the guns. For ultra-rares that does seem to be the case, though.
And I would argue that being a cyborg doesn't make them no longer human, just humans with mechanical parts. *shrugs*
Yes, I know you can check that. It's a tad annoying that you need to, when you can tell instantly with everything else. And the developers must have noticed it, since future classes that could have suffered from the same problem, like the male Quarians or the new Turian Soldier, actually have distinct names in the lobbies rather than just race + class.
Anybody else get the feeling that they're not even trying to make these a challenge anymore? Earn points with Charge last week, earn points with any fire power this week, that's two in a row you can get very easily just by playing a class with the appropriate power.
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2012-11-08, 06:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, just got back into multiplayer, haven't played since that first content patch with the Geth and Batarians.
Just unlocked a Volus, and I was wondering about their cover mechanics. I can't seem to be able to use cover with them; what are they getting to compensate for that?
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2012-11-08, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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You are correct, Volus cannot use cover. They are a uniquely vulnerable race, between that and having the lowest health in the game (average shields though).
To compensate, they have their small size, which helps them get the benefits of cover by simply standing near it more easily, and their Shield Boost power, which is amazing and you should be using basically any time you're taking fire. Also, hitting the button to do a normal melee attack instead causes them to cloak, although only for a brief period of time, which can help them escape enemy attention. Their heavy melee is also some kind of barrier, though I'm not clear on how exactly it works and haven't tried to use it much.
Which Volus did you get, incidentally? From what I've seen so far, the Engineer is easier to use than the Adept, although I did only get the Adept last night.
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I haven't done any test to check for damage reduction so I'm not sure if it actually does anything along those lines, but the Volus shield bubble does provide both shield regen and an AOE damage pulse.
Circumstantial, but immensely useful if you just got tagged by an Atlas rocket or Banshee warp and Shield Boost is on cooldown as the shield regen will cancel out that lethal damage over time effect. A quick pulse can also knock back Husks or provide that last sliver of damage to finish an enemy when you don't feel like wasting ammo.
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2012-11-08, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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All of them. Eventually, it gets light enough to use on all but the most time-critical casting classes. It's a little weaker now that it has a clip of 6 shots, but it is still pretty solid. Any class that does not [b]require[b] maximum possible range, or maximum possible power speed, can benefit from the piranha. Kind of like how in the old days you would see adepts running around with geth plasma shotguns.
It's been in use since Gauntlet: Legends was out in the arcade, and rocking the N64, so no. Any time you have five different humans whose only distinguishing features are their loadout, they are each referred to as being a different human kit.
I don't think that normal rares prioritize characters over guns - else it wouldn't be so hard to unlock new characters before maxing out all the guns. For ultra-rares that does seem to be the case, though.
And I would argue that being a cyborg doesn't make them no longer human, just humans with mechanical parts. *shrugs*
They breed true, and they are modified, mechanically and probably genetically, outside of the human norm. The phoenix are those who left the program and defected before they were entirely mutated, remember.
Yes, I know you can check that. It's a tad annoying that you need to, when you can tell instantly with everything else. And the developers must have noticed it, since future classes that could have suffered from the same problem, like the male Quarians or the new Turian Soldier, actually have distinct names in the lobbies rather than just race + class.
Anybody else get the feeling that they're not even trying to make these a challenge anymore? Earn points with Charge last week, earn points with any fire power this week, that's two in a row you can get very easily just by playing a class with the appropriate power.
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2012-11-08, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Engineer. So far I've maxed out the sentry mine ability(if that's the name), and it seems pretty effective. I was planning on ignoring proximity mine with him and running shield boost and that along with the two bottom skill trees, but I've never played an engineer competently before, maybe I'd be better off running it as a caster.
He is only level 11 at the moment, as I am terrible and have only played an engineer once.Last edited by Luzahn; 2012-11-08 at 07:40 PM.
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2012-11-08, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
Proximity Mine is very good, I'd advise against skipping it. Particularly the rank 5 evolution that debuffs enemies (*hint* which stacks with the same effect on Recon Mine *hint*). It also has a much shorter cooldown than Recon Mine, making it better for using offensively.
The skill you can safely skip on the Volus is Fitness. With how fragile they are it doesn't really make much difference. Cloak and Shield Boost are what keeps a Volus alive - which is another reason why using Recon Mine for your offence is a bad idea, the long cooldown leaves you vulnerable when you can't use Shield Boost.
I use a 6/6/6/6/0 setup myself, but 6/6/6/5/3 is also good. Bring a decent lightweight gun, throw your Recon Mine into whatever area is going to be your killzone and then use Proxy Mine and Shield Boost to support your team (also, remember to shoot things a bit in between powers).Last edited by Tome; 2012-11-08 at 09:17 PM.