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2009-04-12, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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He said he tried to cast luckamancy and nothing happened. He didn't say that he tried to cast every type of magic and failed. Failing to cast luckamancy then doesn't mean he lacks the potential. The Magic Kindgom trains people to use magic, so it could well be that Parson just needs training.
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2009-04-12, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not surprised to hear of the hippiemancer bit, and actually think it sticks, oddly enough.
I don't know word one about Hippiemancy (and would love to hear more, btw), but I suspect it's less to do about thunder, lightning, dirt and croak so much as it is about fudging stuff. You know, tweak a number here, pinch a bit of time there, stuff it elsewhere where it's more needed, etc. Subtle stuff like 'flaking' that you wouldn't notice unless you managed to put 2 and 2 together later on. You know, kinda like we're doing now on where he managed to get all that time offensively and defensively to get all his actions done.
'Course if I'm wrong I'd love to hear what it really is.Last edited by Dancingrage; 2009-04-12 at 03:54 PM.
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2009-04-12, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Look at this picture of Hermione. Now look at this picture of Dumbledore. The picture of Hermione is an exact match, as the Dumbledore - down to the hat.
"Harry Potter" is incorrect for #3. I have no idea who he is.
Look closely at the tip of her wand - it is a bottle, one highly similar in shape to the Jeannie Bottle.
Plus Firiona's outfit looks nothing like the one the Erfworlder is wearing. It doesn't even have pants! Jeannie's on the other hand, is almost an exact match.Last edited by Oracle_Hunter; 2009-04-12 at 03:57 PM.
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2009-04-12, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, I dunno. This situation looks very similar to the previous comic... Someone faces down a large group of people, your friends are sitting there pretty much comatose, someone on the other side leaps to your defense, someone gets grabbed by the shoulder, and the forums still exploded... (Just kidding. XD)
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Okay, the TV side leans heavily on Italian Mafia setting, as well as dipping heavily into '50's era cultural references. In particular, the leader is referred to as The Godfather, and bears a striking resemblance to that character in the rather popular movie series.
One of the cliche things about Mafia, one that Robert Asprin used in his rather punny and cliche (though extremely entertaining) Myth series was the 'dead sexy, but highly intelligent mafia chick named Bunny'. This is FAR more likely than any Buffy the Vampire Slayer references, as that Buffy was about as intelligent as a bowl of oatmeal. Sometimes. On a good day.SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
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2009-04-12, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Firiona Vie doesn't do pink. All of those loading screens over the years (until her artist died) were bordered with blue to match her outfit. Heck, she attacked some of our clerics the week before last and she still wasn't pink, nor were the aggro'd clerics.
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2009-04-12, 06:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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no, TWENTY! even if that was sizemore's full purse it would be too much...
I do like the idea of Rand = Randies and an upper limit for currency makes sense, but it relies on there being sufficiently few 'mancers to share it out or it would be subdivided. Janis said she would pay 50R each.
so...
RANDcorp
Ayn Rand - Galts Gulch
James Randi
RANDom unit of currency
The Random makes sense from the point of view of a currency solely for use between 'mancers (which is what I think it is) but Randi/Galt and RANDcorp all make sense as pop-culture references.
Of cource, I move in circles where Randi is idolised... I am aware many outside the rabid athiest community may never have heard of him
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Honestly, Portal Park looks like a pretty happenin' place. They probably were just standing around, and when they saw Parson come through they freaked out because:
(1) He's huge
(2) They couldn't see his stats
(3) He had a sword and armor - and only casters should be able to go through the Portal.Lead Designer for Oracle Hunter GamesToday a Blog, Tomorrow a Business!
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2009-04-12, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Uri Geller. Yeah, i thought of him too, but since his main claim to fame is a cheap jack telekinesis trick (bending spoons), he wouldn't be presented as thinkamancer. In any case, the look, mannerisms, and speech fit Carl Sagan much better, so i'm sticking with that choice.
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2009-04-12, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, there's the atomic symbol on the wand.
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2009-04-12, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Guy in the blazer is definitely Carl Sagan. Nobody else makes sense given his implement. Not to mention his outfit is a straight match for the one he wore in Cosmos.
New idea for #3: Lance Burton
Stage magicians would make sense, as we haven't seen any stagemancers yet.
Which makes me realize...
Hocus Pocus: Jeannie
Spookism: Orko
Stuffamancy: Dr. Strange
Eyemancy: Carl Sagan
Hippiemancy: Dumbledore
Naughtymancy: Wicked Witch
Stagemancy: Lance Burton
Clevermancy: Hermione
It would make sense that the eight are a representation of each of the 8 major magic classes. I'm 95% sure on my position of most of them, but not sure on Orko, Dr. Strange, or Dumbledore.
Stagemancers opens the door for Penn & Teller, and Randi, amongst others, which would be awesome to see.
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It's a brown haired girl in a robe. How can you say for certain that's not anyone else? As I said, there's too little detail to be absolutely certain.
Did have a thought. It could be Willow from Buffy. (Her hair colour varied from blonde through brown to red.) Hair length is right, too. And she wore that kind of robe in her darker period (when her hair darkened, too).
Now look at this picture of Dumbledore. The picture of Hermione is an exact match, as the Dumbledore - down to the hat.
Look. I'm not saying that's not Dumbledore, and the other isn't Hermione. I'm saying they can't be both. If one is Dumbledore, the other is probably intended to be someone other than Hermione. The female has the fewest details and the least chance to identify properly.
Look closely at the tip of her wand - it is a bottle, one highly similar in shape to the Jeannie Bottle.
Firiona's outfit looks nothing like the one the Erfworlder is wearing. It doesn't even have pants!
Jeannie's on the other hand, is almost an exact match.
You can see them better here, at the 1:10 mark and best at 1:26, where she lifts her right leg, clearly showing those are pant legs, and not a dress.
Oh, and looking at the Sagan character's wand, I'll accept that is Carl Sagan, too, much as I don't like him as a Thinkamancer. He's got an atomic end to his wand, which would be indicative of a scientist. I'd rather see him as a Mathamancer, or Predictamancer. I suppose a Predictamancer could predict how many Thinkamancers were in the region. Actually, A Lookamancer would be consistent with an Astronomer, and then he'd definitely be able to tell how many Thinkamancers were in the region. So he's not calling them, he's only checking how many are available.
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2009-04-12, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Orko is probably a hatamancer.
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2009-04-12, 07:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm, one kind of Hippiemancer is the Date-a-Mancer - maybe Parson will cast a time-travel spell and become Charlie. ( Just teasing.)
In fact, most Earthlings are rather hippieish compared to Erfworlders.
I like Fjolnir's theory that TV has "Bunny ears", and like the Rands, there's probably multiple correct references. I just hope Bunny isn't anything like her namesake in the Babylon 5 universe, who was a sociopathic telepath who worked for the Shadows in the Passing of the Techno-Mages books.
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2009-04-12, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly, almost every artist's rendering of Gandalf I have seen is of Gandalf the Grey. He's just known so much better that way. Perhaps because more people have read The Hobbit than the trilogy. I did a google image search for 'gandalf painting' and most of the images are of Mythrandir.
Zooming in on the figure, the robes are on the blue end of grey or grey end of blue... so it could go either way. Of course, Gandalf is sometimes depicted in blue robes and/or cloak.
I also happened to notice in doing so that the brown haired wizard next to him has something reddish on the front of his/her robes. Maybe a Gryffindor scarf?
Last but not least, the unidentified black-haired tuxedo-wearing 'mancer seems to have white on his face... either a mask (à la Phantom of the Opera) or facepaint... does that ring any bells for anyone?
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2009-04-12, 07:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Those robes are too blue to be Gandalf. Ignoring the hat being wrong and him using a wand instead of the requisite staff.
#2 is undoubtedly Hermione, as has been mentioned many times already..
I stand by #3 being Lance Burton, at least until I hear a better hypothesis. I don't think his face is white, I think it's the natural skin tone that looks lighter because of the pink shadow of his neck.
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Rand Holmes also seems to be a likely source:
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Personally I side with the camp that says that Parson Gotti, the Lord Hamster, is in fact a hippiemancer. I think signamancy is the best bet for his hippiemancy angle.
There's actually extreme tactical advantages to be gained by good use of a skillset that basically allows you an advantage in picking the fights and giving the enemy battle largely on your terms. Parson would catch on to that advantage pretty quickly. A combination of Signamancy with the Mathamancy device might even be as effective as Luckamancy,
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2009-04-12, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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I dunno. But I do know that Gandalf definitely would NOT be using a wand -- either a staff or a sword for that particular wizard.
That leaves Merlin and Dumbledore. Take yer pick, there's no real way of choosing the one or the other.
Also, whoever said that Dumbledore would be a Hippiemancer... is kinda ignoring that there's 1 already present. Besides, if ever there was a Clevermancer it's Dumbledore.Last edited by Imgran; 2009-04-12 at 09:56 PM.
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