Things you never noticed

[Teddy]

Shojo has a blue one. And I just noticed that when he dies, it goes out.

And the Chair of Truth has got it's own spotlight too.

And when I'm at it, the psychologist in that strip reappears in Cliffport.

[Hardcore]

Belkars clothes changes color when he get improved wisdom

[Pilot3lite]

Idk about you guys but *I* never noticed this until my last re-read of the archive. 4th panel
When Mitd bets real monopoly money, the roach that says "take the bet" has the monopoly man hat and stache, and is standing on a monopoly house.

[Forbiddenwar]

Idk about you guys but *I* never noticed this until my last re-read of the archive. 4th panel
When Mitd bets real monopoly money, the roach that says "take the bet" has the monopoly man hat and stache, and is standing on a monopoly house.

OMG wow!. How'd I miss that before!

[Lvl45DM!]

I saw that the first time, and nearly wet myself

[Zedd]

It's a DnD joke; the spyglass is ridiculously expensive, being a noncombat, nonmagical item at 1,000 gp. So... the nifty pricetag.

Oh, my, this screams FIRST QUEST all over

[Kaytara]

Sry, but I think you read things that are not there. Rich definitely wanted to show both sides, pre-battle, so to speak. Going from there to ideas of foreshadowing etc. is to stretch it IMO. Two sides, and both have soldiers, leaders and characters that interact and make plans etc. Amazing!

I don't know if you noticed, but the placement of those characters isn't random. Hinjo, a paladin of the Sapphire Guard, is opposite of Redcloak, a cleric of the Red Mantle, sworn enemies. Roy, leader of the Order, is opposite of Xykon, leader of Team Evil and personal enemy. A random goblin mook is opposite a random human mook. A spellcasting goblin mook is opposite a human spellcaster.

For my part, I wasn't necessarily implying that the demon roaches are supposed to foreshadow V's deal with the fiends. It's entirely too invisible a link to be a foreshadowing, anyway, more like a treat for the hindsight. I was just pointing out that V and the roaches share colours and that's why the symmetry works.
I do think the link between V and the roaches is probably intentional. And the link between O-Chul and the MitD probably too. We have Rich explicitly saying that there's a clue in one of the battle strips as to what O-Chul's purpose was going to be. It may as well be this one.

Oh they have the same colors! That must mean something! (yeah, there is only limited number to use in a cartoon)

What? Since when? Last I checked, Rich doesn't limit himself to 16 colours or anything like that.

That there is no secret code is shown in that the number stick figures on both pages don't exactly match

Actually, they DO exactly match. The only exception is with the demon roaches, and that only if we count the two roaches as separate figures rather than a single picture element.

[Tass]

Also note that while the characters are mirrored, the speak balloons match pretty well when simply translated. Especially the second line.

[Hardcore]

I don't know if you noticed, but the placement of those characters isn't random. Hinjo, a paladin of the Sapphire Guard, is opposite of Redcloak, a cleric of the Red Mantle, sworn enemies.
Roy, leader of the Order, is opposite of Xykon, leader of Team Evil and personal enemy. A random goblin mook is opposite a random human mook. A spellcasting goblin mook is opposite a human spellcaster.

Yes, and they foreshadow what exactly?
There are many possible combinations of protagonists and antagonist. If haley had been in the picture oppposite to Redcloak it would have foreshadow her attempt at sniping him when he enters the castle. Belkar opposite to a goblin"mook" would have foreshadowed his ascendancy to halfling godhood etc.

I was just pointing out that V and the roaches share colours and that's why the symmetry works.

Yes, it is very clear Rich used symmetry as a tool to show us both sides before battle, and for artistic effect. But going from symmetry to foreshadowing takes not observation, but imagination.
But we will soon see won't we? The next book is soon out and Rich will certainly have something to say on the matter of O-chul and MitD in the commentaries.

[Miklus]

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Yes, there is a peace symbol, but I think he was referring to a literal set of three question marks. "???" It is almost directly across from the peace symbol.

Oh, I thought it was a riddle! Well, there is a peace symbol too...and *I* spotted it first! YAY me! So peace is opposite "???"...Very interresting...The question is peace...or is peace the answer???

[Herald Alberich]

And the Chair of Truth has got it's own spotlight too.

And when I'm at it, the psychologist in that strip reappears in Cliffport.

And the laywers, but only during the closing arguments.

[veti]

The guard monster outside Xykon's tower, when asleep, snores with a single 'Z.', rather than the more usual 'Zzzz'

The similar guard monster in DCF, as it

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hits Roy, says '2.'

Nice touch, which only just occurred to me.

[Kaytara]

Yes, and they foreshadow what exactly?
There are many possible combinations of protagonists and antagonist. If haley had been in the picture oppposite to Redcloak it would have foreshadow her attempt at sniping him when he enters the castle. Belkar opposite to a goblin"mook" would have foreshadowed his ascendancy to halfling godhood etc.

I wasn't talking about foreshadowing in this context, I was talking about significance. :D Not the same thing. I also specifically said that I don't think the link between V and the roaches and O-Chul and the MitD is meant to be foreshadowing, more like a treat for re-reading.

Good foreshadowing is the kind of thing that you miss at first, but when you eventually look back, you go all "Gah! I can't believe I missed that clue!"
Not really one's reaction upon re-reading that strip, is it? :D It's more of a "Wow, that's neat!" thing. Essentially the point of this thread. I'm just arguing that I don't think it's coincidence, which is what I thought you were implying.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Hang on a sec...

Remember when Belkar said that Redcloak is probably 17th level, and therefore can cast True Resurrection?

...I smell possible redemption.

[Forbiddenwar]

Hang on a sec...

Remember when Belkar said that Redcloak is probably 17th level, and therefore can cast True Resurrection?

...I smell possible redemption.

Actually . . .


No.
I don't remember, can you link it?

[Watcher]

Here it is.

[Grey Watcher]

I wasn't talking about foreshadowing in this context, I was talking about significance. :D Not the same thing. I also specifically said that I don't think the link between V and the roaches and O-Chul and the MitD is meant to be foreshadowing, more like a treat for re-reading.

Good foreshadowing is the kind of thing that you miss at first, but when you eventually look back, you go all "Gah! I can't believe I missed that clue!"
Not really one's reaction upon re-reading that strip, is it? :D It's more of a "Wow, that's neat!" thing. Essentially the point of this thread. I'm just arguing that I don't think it's coincidence, which is what I thought you were implying.

You know, now that you've pointed out the mirror image and the connectsions between the characters, the layout for that strip just revealed an exponential increase in awesomeness to me. I only wish either the Azurite's or the Hobgoblins in line 2 were in reverse order so the symmetry was maintained throughout. Though I do like that "*sigh* Politics as usual." and "brains" are equated. Both seem equally relevant and equally helpful. :D

[AxeD]

I never realised that Miko got killed by the chair that she attacked.

Divine retribution or what?

[Acero]

I never realised that Miko got killed by the chair
Divine retribution or what?

i just realized the lower half of her body is on-panel....
2nd to last strip, by the chair

[rainbowjo]

I never realised that Miko got killed by the chair that she attacked.

Divine retribution or what?

Wow!
Thats amazing.

[Optimystik]

Question for the observant: I can't make out what it says on the menu in the last panel of this strip. Can anyone read it?

[Lvl45DM!]

White omelette with...something 10 gold
white omelette sounds like a flumph :D

[Lvl45DM!]

oo in the last panel Roy is playing with the sand :D i dont know why that matters...but its cool!

[Elan's Modron]

Question for the observant: I can't make out what it says on the menu in the last panel of this strip. Can anyone read it?

Pretty sure it's: Egg-White Omelets with Mimosas

A 'mimosa' being a typical drink served with classy brunches: they're orange juice mixed with (I think) champagne - and served in champagne glasses, just like the ones on the flumphs' table...

[Porthos]

Question for the observant: I can't make out what it says on the menu in the last panel of this strip. Can anyone read it?

Mimosis? Mimosas? Let me Google.

Mimosas looks to be the safe bet.

EDIT:::: Arrgh. Didn't see that this had been answered. Well, take it as independent confirmation then.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

oo in the last panel Roy is playing with the sand :D i dont know why that matters...but its cool!

Just seems to be scattering some sand in the air to demonstrate the ground is soft. About half the cloud seems to be sand that still hasn't fully settled from him getting tossed from the bug, though.

[Lvl45DM!]

yeah i get hes proving his point its just such a tiny insignifigant detail that i love the giant for putting it in

[Dark Faun]

I just noticed the huge bugs the slavers are riding have one huge red eye next to a tiny red dot instead of eyes of similar size.

[Elan's Modron]

I just noticed the huge bugs the slavers are riding have one huge red eye next to a tiny red dot instead of eyes of similar size.

No, if you look at the first appearance of the giant bugs, (strip 683 perhaps?) you can see they have two big red eyes that sandwich two smaller ones...

[Magnema]

I just recognized two people in this strip.
The diviner is Saangwan (Yes I know that's obvious... )
And the old man is the wise old man from this strip.