ABR Discussion Thread XXIX: Where we talk about bears....

[The Gremlin]

I'm going to go ahead and say that you don't need the rulebook. Heck, most of the people I play with IRL don't have the M&M rulebook.

Alright, I'll try it then, when I get back online.
EDIT: Okay, I'm back. What do I have to do first?

[Darklord Bright]

I've actually been trying for ages to work on a mix mashed system for PnP that can be played either online or in person, but right now it's horribly unbalanced and missing dozens of rules (But oddly, playable with some ad-libbing). Might be neat to grab a few people to help me fix it up so that it's playable, but right now I'm actually in the middle of a huge overhaul, so it might be a while before there is another working version to mess with.

[The Gremlin]

Okay, I'm back. What do I have to do first?

[Squark]

But then how would I create a character?

[chriky]

Rand, if he counts, and I think Chriky and Firedrake are in the USA too (not sure).

No we're British and proud of it.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Hey, at least i'm not a liar.
Check my sig because you broke that vow.

"If I have only one life to live, let me live it as a jerk".

[EmeraldPhoenix]

"If I have only one life to live, let me live it as a wonderful person, who will never ever say anything mean ever again."

AMEN.

[Squark]

In case anyone was wondering, I'm from the birthstate of Dungeons and Dragons, and proud of it! And, according to some of the guys at FNM, Magic: The Gathering was also born in Wisconsin.

[kpenguin]

But then how would I create a character?

Just come up with a concept and I can flesh it out mechanically. I've done that with practically everyone else, anyway.

[Szilard]

I'm American, not that anyone cares.

[kpenguin]

I'm American, not that anyone cares.

Who are you again?

[Falgorn]

Just come up with a concept and I can flesh it out mechanically. I've done that with practically everyone else, anyway.

Ooh, can I join your game, too, Kpeng?

I'll be extra nice. Pinky swear!

[Szilard]

Who are you again?

I am your father. Go get me some cookies.

[Darklord Bright]

KP's getting quite popular... I kinda feel bad for him if he's really going to have to run two simultaneous games with half the ABRers

[kpenguin]

You wanna GM then, Brighty?

It'd be cool if you joined, Falgorn.

[Falgorn]

KP's getting quite popular... I kinda feel bad for him if he's really going to have to run two simultaneous games with half the ABRers

You say that like it's a bad thing!
I know it is. Those ABRers are dreadful! Especially that Skimmer, and that Falgorn character.

[The Gremlin]

So I can have any concept?
Hmm...Aqualich!
Kidding.
How about, on that line of thinking...The FLYING FISHMAN!
A cloud of amphibious literally flying fish (butterfly wings!!! )follows him everywhere, although they are apparently not under his control. Instead, they circle him, obscuring all but his glowing silver eyes. He is therefore very hard to hit, and he wields a harpoon gun which he shoots with deadly accuracy.
The Flying Fishman is a cunning foe, and suitably mysterious. His true looks are unknown at this time, as even though the fish move to give him room to fire, this rarely reveals much.
If that's too surreal, then we can replace the fish with something else, like moths or butterflies, and his harpoon gun can be replaced with a bug zapper-style lightning generating thing.
Would this be possible?

[Falgorn]

I, myself, had been thinking of superheroes and villains recently, since my friends said that I was evil. I told them to fall into the Sarlaac pit, stole a can of Chicken Broth from them, and repeatedly harassed them. (Note, we were all joking.)
But I came up with the most masterful power...ever!
The Grease Fireman! The power to create Grease Fires at will!

Thriller! The guy with the power to control others using the mighty power of Dance!

[Darklord Bright]

You wanna GM then, Brighty?

It'd be cool if you joined, Falgorn.

Alas, right now I'm devoting my holidays to working on Incarnation v0.7 (My completely-from-scratch pnp system) and I'm almost done the attributes, which are the bones of all other things in the system. May post that part of it here in a spoiler for people interested in helping out or just interested in how the system works.

[kpenguin]

Do the fish/butterflies/moths do anything else for him other than provide concealment?

[The Gremlin]

Do the fish/butterflies/moths do anything else for him other than provide concealment?

Not really, but if you want they can have some suitably bizarre and otherworldly ability (song that freezes people in place, weird patterns, etc.). The main idea is that Flying Fishman is bizarre and a bit scary.

[kpenguin]

Welp, what we're looking at here is Concealment 2 (Visual; Limited: Partial) with the Drawback that he loses his concealment if he fails a reflex save vs. an area attack or something like that, since all the flying fish fall down unconcious.

[The Gremlin]

Welp, what we're looking at here is Concealment 2 (Visual; Limited: Partial) with the Drawback that he loses his concealment if he fails a reflex save vs. an area attack or something like that, since all the flying fish fall down unconcious.

That makes sense. Then he would probably desperately avoid such attacks. He also wears lots of thin silk draped around him in a mummy-like fashion. Just in case. It doesn't help him in fighting or anything, but it keeps his true appearance concealed.

[kpenguin]

Alright, cool.

My concern at this point is that Flying Fishman is a bit underpowered. We already have a character with full blown invisibility and that's not even his main power.

[The Gremlin]

Alright, cool.

My concern at this point is that Flying Fishman is a bit underpowered. We already have a character with full blown invisibility and that's not even his main power.

Hmm...what if the harpoon gun has a very thin, very strong wire that is attached to the harpoon? The line will automatically disentangle itself from any enemies and draw the harpoon back into the gun.
If that's not enough, never discount singing fish/hypnotic fish/whatever you think the fish could do.

[V'icternus]

He could have a bunch of minor powers as well. You know, a little super-strength, some precise shooting feats or whatever, maybe trick out his harpoon gun as a device with different modes that wind up being powers linked to the device, etc...

[The Gremlin]

He could have a bunch of minor powers as well. You know, a little super-strength, some precise shooting feats or whatever, maybe trick out his harpoon gun as a device with different modes that wind up being powers linked to the device, etc...

I think I'd be satisfied with precision shooting and the abilities I have already detailed, unless that's still too low.
Right now, I see him as sort of a Batman meets...um...some weird crazy guy with lots of flying fish all around him.

[V'icternus]

I'll put it this way.

At the current power level, Zoomy, the fastest character, can run around the whole world in 1 and a half hours. She can also phase through objects and run on water.

You may need a little bit of a boost.

[Lyinginbedmon]

I think we're trying to come to a grand consensus here, so I felt that needed to be brought up to see if Lying had a problem with it.

I'm fine with it, you'll even note in part 2 that Levistus seems to get pretty unhinged as he goes on.

[The Gremlin]

I'm fine with it, you'll even note in part 2 that Levistus seems to get pretty unhinged as he goes on.

So this means that Remember is non canon in FFFR and Lying really doesn't have a second daughter? Just to make sure. If it does, then I will change my vote to Nay*
Vic: Holy carp. Huh. Yeah, that might need a boost. We'll see what KP says.