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    Default Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Basically, as a thought exercise I've been trying to build a non-magical character who is almost impossible to kill. Right now the big weakness is he can still fail Will and Reflex throws with a natural 1. I was wandering if there's any way to get the Pride Domain power without taking any levels in a magical class. Failing that, any similar re-roll effect.

    (Ideally using feats, but may be able to spare a level)

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    Planar Touchstone: Catalogues of Enlightment keyed to the Pride Domain can get you the domain granted power. IIRC it requires 5 ranks in K: The planes.

    It is in the Planar Handbook
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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Take a look at the luck feats in Complete Scoundrel. A number of them give re-rolls on a variety of things, and the more luck feats you take, the more times per day you can re-roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrion View Post
    Take a look at the luck feats in Complete Scoundrel. A number of them give re-rolls on a variety of things, and the more luck feats you take, the more times per day you can re-roll.
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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Planar Touchstone: Catalogues of Enlightment keyed to the Pride Domain can get you the domain granted power. IIRC it requires 5 ranks in K: The planes.

    It is in the Planar Handbook
    CoE is your best bet, but if you can't get that, Moment of Perfect Mind, and Action before Thought could help here, as well.
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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Thanks, I didn't have room in the build for the other options but the Planar Touchstone is perfect

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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Or buy a few empty Luck Blades.

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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Domain Draughts (magic item compendium) maybe? I'm not familiar with Pride domain, so I don't know if it would work for you. 3300 (I think, AFB) grants you a domain power for 24 hours. (effective cleric level is either your actual cleric level or -, so some of them are useless for non-clerics)

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    Almost impossible to kill? Shame you are not going to be a caster. Abrupt Jaunt is great for such things, although sometimes you want the actions to cast swift/quickened spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Planar Touchstone: Catalogues of Enlightment keyed to the Pride Domain can get you the domain granted power. IIRC it requires 5 ranks in K: The planes.

    It is in the Planar Handbook
    8 ranks, unfortunately. You'll probably want a way of getting K: Planes in-class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantmudkip View Post
    Abrupt Jaunt is great for such things, although sometimes you want the actions to cast swift/quickened spells.
    Abrubt jaunt is an immediate action, not a swift action. (Read as: interrupt, not instant :D )

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    Quote Originally Posted by NecroRick View Post
    Abrubt jaunt is an immediate action, not a swift action. (Read as: interrupt, not instant :D )
    Immediate action eats your next turn's swift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantmudkip View Post
    Almost impossible to kill? Shame you are not going to be a caster. Abrupt Jaunt is great for such things, although sometimes you want the actions to cast swift/quickened spells.
    It would be too easy with a caster

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    I agree with dextercorvia that Moment of Perfect Mind and Action before Thought from Tome of Battle would probably be the way to go. The only down side is that they are Immediate Actions, and thus can only be used once per turn.

    Kensai can also use Concentration checks in place of Reflex Saves. There's also Insane Defiance and Deformity (Madness) from Elder Evils, which basically make you immune to Mind Effecting effects (ie, 90% of Will Saves).

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    Default Re: Any way to get Domain powers without caster levels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devmaar View Post
    It would be too easy with a caster
    Of course. Who needs to physically be able to take effects when you killed the person before you retroactively.
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