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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Rot View Post
    Did you know that you can extremely extend your lifetime by using the Ungent of Timelessness on yourself? It says that it can be used on any matter that was once living. You were living 5 seconds ago... Effective Immortality!(from age)
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    Meh, not really, it only multiplies it by 365, so its not immortality, though that is a very large boost to longevity.

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    Still considerable though, If you're a Thri-Keen, you can actually live longer than about 25-30ish years if I'm correct.
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    Blasting isn't T3. It's either T2 (you're Mailman enough to kill everything) or T4 (you're an over-glorified archer).

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    easier to just have contingent last breaths, though, if you're seriously into immortality, no?

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    If you want a DMG thrown at you, try this:

    1) Buy a wizard's spellbook with 100 pages
    2) cast explosive runes on every page
    3) throw the book over to someone you want to vaporize
    4) cast dispel magic on the book

    If you find a way to make it impossible for the dispel check to succeed (i.e. taking levels in IotSV then casting the dispel from a scroll), all 100 explosive runes will detonate simultaneously when they aren't dispelled. This will result in anything adjacent to the book taking 600D6 force damage, no save. Anything within 10 feet gets a reflex save for half damage (which still comes out to more than a thousand on average).

    This is lovingly referred to as a Boombox


    Now, a word of caution. Having a boombox on your person is extremely dangerous. I have had a character come to a sudden and very red-misty end by going through a dispel-magic trap with one of these in his pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post
    Now, a word of caution. Having a boombox on your person is extremely dangerous. I have had a character come to a sudden and very red-misty end by going through a dispel-magic trap with one of these in his pack.
    He shouldn't have. There is no LoE to it if it is in the pack.
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    It was done as an area dispel. So unless I can protect myself from dispels by holding up a sheet, that logic, unfortunately, doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post
    It was done as an area dispel. So unless I can protect myself from dispels by holding up a sheet, that logic, unfortunately, doesn't work.
    Holding up a sheet, no. Rolling around in a riverine hamster ball, on the other hand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post
    If you want a DMG thrown at you, try this:

    1) Buy a wizard's spellbook with 100 pages
    2) cast explosive runes on every page
    3) throw the book over to someone you want to vaporize
    4) cast dispel magic on the book

    If you find a way to make it impossible for the dispel check to succeed (i.e. taking levels in IotSV then casting the dispel from a scroll), all 100 explosive runes will detonate simultaneously when they aren't dispelled. This will result in anything adjacent to the book taking 600D6 force damage, no save. Anything within 10 feet gets a reflex save for half damage (which still comes out to more than a thousand on average).

    This is lovingly referred to as a Boombox


    Now, a word of caution. Having a boombox on your person is extremely dangerous. I have had a character come to a sudden and very red-misty end by going through a dispel-magic trap with one of these in his pack.
    I did something similar too this. I put an Arcane mark on the forehead of a temporarily controlled mindless undead servant of the evil Necromancer and then spammed the **** out of explosive runes via wands. By the time we let it go report back to the necromancer, I had a good few hundred castings on it. When the explosion went off, nothing but a crater was left of the Tower.

    DM handed out insane RP and style points for that one, was so impressed he showed us what we'd have had the chance to loot form the tower if we'd gone in in classic fashion, then he gave us 1.5 times that and experience as though we'd just go in and killed the crap out of everything in there that moved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post
    It was done as an area dispel. So unless I can protect myself from dispels by holding up a sheet, that logic, unfortunately, doesn't work.
    Seriously, you should check this out. Area spells require LoE, too.
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    Nicely done. Probably too cheesy for many tables, but I'd be inclined to allow it at mine, just for chutzpah.

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    Persisted Mass Lesser Vigor solves all healing problems.

    "Or we could summon a horde of angels." - Gate any creature, that has Gate as a spell or SLA. You know the rest.
    Candle of Invocation (Lawful Evil) - call an Efreet and use one of the wishes to get another Candle.
    I've probably been swordsaged, but that no longer works in pathfinder.

    The candle of invocation thing probably does.


    You can still have fun though, with a dim G.M.


    For example:
    Get powerful blow rage power, and any others that occur once/rage.
    Wait until tireless rage at 17th level, or have a mage Friend ready with remove fatigue.
    Rage.
    Use all the once-a-rage powers simultaneously.
    Stop raging, end round.
    Next round: Start raging...

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    1) Buy a wizard's spellbook with 100 pages
    2) cast explosive runes on every page
    3) throw the book over to someone you want to vaporize
    4) cast dispel magic on the book

    If you find a way to make it impossible for the dispel check to succeed (i.e. taking levels in IotSV then casting the dispel from a scroll), all 100 explosive runes will detonate simultaneously when they aren't dispelled. This will result in anything adjacent to the book taking 600D6 force damage, no save. Anything within 10 feet gets a reflex save for half damage (which still comes out to more than a thousand on average).
    oooh, nasty.
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    I recently started making spellcaster, so I came across this cool trick:

    Their are some things (oneiramancy, rainbow servant) that add spells to your class list, but its balanced out by having to pick between spells from that list or your own list when you level up. However, several classes cast from their entire class list, so this is essentially just free spell expansion (iirc, the rainbow servant adds the entire cleric spell list, so you are now a better cleric than the cleric, spell-wise). On a relevant note, A dip into sandshaper adds a bunch of spells to your spells known. For prepared casters, they still have to prepare them as normal. A spontaneous caster, however, can take much greater use of this desert insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroticplague View Post
    I recently started making spellcaster, so I came across this cool trick:

    Their are some things (oneiramancy, rainbow servant) that add spells to your class list, but its balanced out by having to pick between spells from that list or your own list when you level up. However, several classes cast from their entire class list, so this is essentially just free spell expansion (iirc, the rainbow servant adds the entire cleric spell list, so you are now a better cleric than the cleric, spell-wise). On a relevant note, A dip into sandshaper adds a bunch of spells to your spells known. For prepared casters, they still have to prepare them as normal. A spontaneous caster, however, can take much greater use of this desert insight.
    Um, sorry, but no. Oneiromancy from Heroes of Horror doesn't grant you any new spells, it's improved version doesn't either, rather it adds spells to your available spell list and only six spells in total (spells not really worth the time either).

    Rainbow Servant doesn't add the entire cleric spell list either, it only grants access to the Good, Air, and Law domains. Rather at 10th level you gain Cleric Spell Access, which while it allows you to use spells from the entire list, it doesn't add to the bonus spells per day. Considering this is a prestige class and you're still limited by level on which spells are available, you're about as good as a cleric with no domain limitation from a god (which can and does exist as an option).

    The Sandshaper is the easiest PrC to get into of the two listed. Though in a gestalt game I could see both being used.

    However you're completely correct on Sandshaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post
    Now, a word of caution. Having a boombox on your person is extremely dangerous. I have had a character come to a sudden and very red-misty end by going through a dispel-magic trap with one of these in his pack.
    Two words: Handy Haversack. Nothing quite beats extradimensional storage for denying line-of-effect.
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    Not sure if this'd count as 'easy' due to the level requirements, but you can create epic spells instantly, for free, with a 0 casting DC. All you need is a high charisma, Epic Leadership, and Legendary Commander. Have all your followers be spellcasters, and design all your epic spells as rituals, with a number of casters equal to the number of followers you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextercorvia View Post
    Seriously, you should check this out. Area spells require LoE, too.


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    Cool, the first investment all of my spellcasters are making from now on is a piece of leather they can hold up in front of themselves in order to protect from dispels.

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    Holding up a sheet, no. Rolling around in a riverine hamster ball, on the other hand....
    Could you impel the ball to roll by holding a defenestrating sphere up against it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrivar View Post


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    Cool, the first investment all of my spellcasters are making from now on is a piece of leather they can hold up in front of themselves in order to protect from dispels.



    Could you impel the ball to roll by holding a defenestrating sphere up against it?
    They have to be completely (nearly) surrounded to break LoE, and then, they won't have LoE to anything else. It's kind of a fair trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doorhandle View Post
    For example:
    Get powerful blow rage power, and any others that occur once/rage.
    Wait until tireless rage at 17th level, or have a mage Friend ready with remove fatigue.
    Rage.
    Use all the once-a-rage powers simultaneously.
    Stop raging, end round.
    Next round: Start raging...
    That should not work...
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    Unless you can somehow convince the DM that the next round constitutes a different encounter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladislav View Post
    That should not work...

    Unless you can somehow convince the DM that the next round constitutes a different encounter...
    That's from 3.5e. Doorhandle was talking about Pathfinder. Pathfinder's version of that rule is:
    A barbarian can end her rage as a free action and is fatigued after rage for a number of rounds equal to 2 times the number of rounds spent in the rage. A barbarian cannot enter a new rage while fatigued or exhausted but can otherwise enter rage multiple times during a single encounter or combat. If a barbarian falls unconscious, her rage immediately ends, placing her in peril of death.
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    Um, sorry, but no. Oneiromancy from Heroes of Horror doesn't grant you any new spells, it's improved version doesn't either, rather it adds spells to your available spell list and only six spells in total (spells not really worth the time either).

    Rainbow Servant doesn't add the entire cleric spell list either, it only grants access to the Good, Air, and Law domains. Rather at 10th level you gain Cleric Spell Access, which while it allows you to use spells from the entire list, it doesn't add to the bonus spells per day. Considering this is a prestige class and you're still limited by level on which spells are available, you're about as good as a cleric with no domain limitation from a god (which can and does exist as an option).

    The Sandshaper is the easiest PrC to get into of the two listed. Though in a gestalt game I could see both being used.

    However you're completely correct on Sandshaper.
    you're not understanding, I think. warmage, beguiler, and dread necromancer can spontaneously from all spells on their list. sure, they don't explicitly grant spells known -- but they add them to your spell list, and those classes use that entire list as spells known.

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    you're not understanding, I think. warmage, beguiler, and dread necromancer can spontaneously from all spells on their list. sure, they don't explicitly grant spells known -- but they add them to your spell list, and those classes use that entire list as spells known.
    Just link him to the handbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtomjames View Post
    Um, sorry, but no. Oneiromancy from Heroes of Horror doesn't grant you any new spells, it's improved version doesn't either, rather it adds spells to your available spell list and only six spells in total (spells not really worth the time either).

    Rainbow Servant doesn't add the entire cleric spell list either, it only grants access to the Good, Air, and Law domains. Rather at 10th level you gain Cleric Spell Access, which while it allows you to use spells from the entire list, it doesn't add to the bonus spells per day. Considering this is a prestige class and you're still limited by level on which spells are available, you're about as good as a cleric with no domain limitation from a god (which can and does exist as an option).

    The Sandshaper is the easiest PrC to get into of the two listed. Though in a gestalt game I could see both being used.

    However you're completely correct on Sandshaper.
    Um, dude, Rainbow Servant is considered one of if not THE most broken Prestige Classes in the game for the ability to play Beguiler or Warmage 6, then take that class for ten levels, not lose any spell casting, and at level 16 be able to cast that entire classes spell list as a 16th level member of the entry class, AND cast as a 16th cleric using which ever entry class you had casting stat as the casting stat for cleric levels.
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    Um, dude, Rainbow Servant is considered one of if not THE most broken Prestige Classes in the game for the ability to play Beguiler or Warmage 6, then take that class for ten levels, not lose any spell casting, and at level 16 be able to cast that entire classes spell list as a 16th level member of the entry class, AND cast as a 16th cleric using which ever entry class you had casting stat as the casting stat for cleric levels.
    er, it's really not broken. extremely powerful, yes. broken, no. you still have to play by all the rules.

    broken are like, tainted scholar, or planar shepard, or dweomerkeeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sreservoir View Post
    er, it's really not broken. extremely powerful, yes. broken, no. you still have to play by all the rules.

    broken are like, tainted scholar, or planar shepard, or dweomerkeeper.
    This. Full list access is nice but bugged dcs, ten rounds of action in a row, Su. Casting, and full metamagic negation in the case of mindmage will mess **** up without even trying.
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    Hulking Hurler + Bloodstorm Blade = scouting anywhere an ally would like to go, assuming I understand the classes correctly. You may need to throw in some Drunken Master for Improvised Weapon Proficiency if your allies don't count as "weapons" otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikun View Post
    Hulking Hurler + Bloodstorm Blade = scouting anywhere an ally would like to go, assuming I understand the classes correctly. You may need to throw in some Drunken Master for Improvised Weapon Proficiency if your allies don't count as "weapons" otherwise.
    I... had not considered that use of Bloodstorm Blade. I'm not sure Drunken Master would really work for that, but there is a Hurl Ally (or something like that) feat, I think in Races of Stone. I'll have to look it up later.

    Anyway, it sounds hilarious.
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    They have to be completely (nearly) surrounded to break LoE, and then, they won't have LoE to anything else. It's kind of a fair trade.
    How about a hamster ball with a hatch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame of Anor View Post
    How about a hamster ball with a hatch?
    Move action to open, move action to close, so unless you can manifest Hustle every round, you are going to either be unable to affect others, or leave yourself unprotected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dextercorvia View Post
    Move action to open, move action to close, so unless you can manifest Hustle every round, you are going to either be unable to affect others, or leave yourself unprotected.
    Well, with Psionics, there is Burrowing Power, although it's not exactly efficient. You can use Telekinetic Sphere as the hamster ball, though.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    I... had not considered that use of Bloodstorm Blade. I'm not sure Drunken Master would really work for that, but there is a Hurl Ally (or something like that) feat, I think in Races of Stone. I'll have to look it up later.

    Anyway, it sounds hilarious.
    Keep some boulders in magical storage or have some create stone spells in your party? Hulking Hurler and Bloodstorm Blade...I want to see a full build, now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Simth View Post
    Well, with Psionics, there is Burrowing Power, although it's not exactly efficient. You can use Telekinetic Sphere as the hamster ball, though.
    You can't cast through a Telekinetic Sphere at all though. It is based on Resilient Sphere which says nothing can move in or out.
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    Nicely done. Probably too cheesy for many tables, but I'd be inclined to allow it at mine, just for chutzpah.

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