Metal Thread VII: The Mosh Pit Don't Start 'Til We Walk In

[Dada]

Scenes from a Memory and Paranoid

[RebelRogue]

Scenes from a Memory and Paranoid

The same.

(Also, did Opeth lose to Iced Earth? Really? )

[eyeofsaulot]

(Also, did Opeth lose to Iced Earth? Really? )

Had your self-identified apprentice grimbold voted differently, Blackwater Park would have won. Mull over that for a little while before you put out an ad on craigslist seeking a new metal apprentice.

Battle 1
04 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)

Battle 2
11 Iced Earth - Horror Show (2001)

I'm actually gonna have to agree here. It doesn't seem right to stiff Black Sabbath in favor of Iced Earth, but then again, I'm the kind of weirdo who thinks Sabbath's eponymous album is their best. And some of the lyrics on Paranoid are pretty cringe-worthy.

[Halberd]

How on earth is Number of the Beast vs. Scenes from a Memory easy? Both are utterly amazing. I guess I'll vote for Scenes from a Memory, just because it's losing and I think Powerslave was a little better than NotB.

This next one, however... piece of cake. Paranoid, all the way. Horror Show should have lost a long time ago, and Paranoid is a total masterpiece.

[Killer Angel]

all easy choices this round!

Battle 1
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Battle 2
02 Black Sabbath - Paranoid

I subscribe the choices.
But it is not so easy.

[Feytalist]

Wildhoney lost. My life has lost all meaning.

Nevertheless, I'm going for:
1) Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory
2) Iced Earth - Horror Show

Aforementioned nostalgia might have had an influence here. It also helps that, as I've mentioned, I would put Brave New World before Number.

[grimbold]

i... didn't expect people to vote for iced earth
and when i say the choices i easier i mean RELATIVELY easier :P

[WhamBamSam]

The same.

(Also, did Opeth lose to Iced Earth? Really? )

It doesn't seem right to stiff Black Sabbath in favor of Iced Earth...

This next one, however... piece of cake. Paranoid, all the way. Horror Show should have lost a long time ago, and Paranoid is a total masterpiece.

i... didn't expect people to vote for iced earth

I'm honestly a little surprised by all of this. I mean, I get that people might prefer Paranoid, but it's a little odd that I seem to be the only one here to consider Iced Earth a genuinely classic band. Even in the rounds that Horror Show has been winning, people have seemed a little embarrassed to be voting for it and consistently surprised by how far it's come. I'd have never really thought of Iced Earth as anything remotely close to a guilty pleasure/nostalgia band, so I'm curious as to why that is.

[eyeofsaulot]

I'm honestly a little surprised by all of this. I mean, I get that people might prefer Paranoid, but it's a little odd that I seem to be the only one here to consider Iced Earth a genuinely classic band. Even in the rounds that Horror Show has been winning, people have seemed a little embarrassed to be voting for it and consistently surprised by how far it's come. I'd have never really thought of Iced Earth as anything remotely close to a guilty pleasure/nostalgia band, so I'm curious as to why that is.

That's a fair criticism. Maybe I can clear up my thoughts on Iced Earth.

To put it plainly, Iced Earth is not as legendary as Black Sabbath. Not even close. Black Sabbath is an inarguably all-time great metal band that the vast majority of metal bands claim as some sort of influence. And Paranoid is often cited as Sabbath's best album, by fans and critics alike.

I feel Iced Earth is a good band that released this great album, whereas Black Sabbath is a great band that released this great album. This is why I feel weird not voting for Black Sabbath in this scenario. That said, I stand by my vote, because Horror Show is the album I prefer.

I've already told about my sentimental attachment to the album, but even so, in comparing it to Paranoid, I find Horror Show to be more epic (I mean, come on, "Damien"? Holy s***.), lyrically superior, musically superior, and... well, it can really tug at the heartstrings. In the drive home after going to a public viewing of the 2010 World Cup 'Round of 16' match where the US lost to Ghana (), I popped in Horror Show specifically so I could listen to "Ghost of Freedom". It's my 'Proud to be Amurrican!' anthem.

And to speculate why some may feel uncomfortable or embarassed to vote for Iced Earth over Sabbath might have to do with that stigma against power metal put in place by some of the purists in the extreme metal camp.

[Moff Chumley]

Oh, don't y'all go and act persecuted.

[godspit]

I'm voting Number of the Beast and Paranoid for this one. Mostly for nostalgia.

[grimbold]

Oh, don't y'all go and act persecuted.

this is why i love the chumster

[Faulty]

Mo' metal, mo' problems.

[eyeofsaulot]

I'm just saying, Moff, you're scaring the youngins.

Soooo, y'all like it when black metal bands cover crust punk songs? 'Cause oh my god, this cover.

[grimbold]

eyes

that is amazing :D

[Faulty]

That is a pretty killer cover. Reminds me that I need to listen to Eater of Birds and see if I can actually dig Cobalt.

[cleric_of_BANJO]

Holy crap, Cobalt's Gin has a song called 'A Clean, Well Lighted Place." I have to get this album...

EDIT: Oh wait, the whole album is a tribute to Ernest Hemingway... cool

[godspit]

I want to like Cobalt but for some reason I don't. The drums bug me. It's well made and the music itself is good, but there's something that kind of irks me about it.

[Feytalist]

I'm honestly a little surprised by all of this. I mean, I get that people might prefer Paranoid, but it's a little odd that I seem to be the only one here to consider Iced Earth a genuinely classic band. Even in the rounds that Horror Show has been winning, people have seemed a little embarrassed to be voting for it and consistently surprised by how far it's come. I'd have never really thought of Iced Earth as anything remotely close to a guilty pleasure/nostalgia band, so I'm curious as to why that is.

Not over here, I ain't. I honestly think Horror Show is a legitimately good album. And I'm unapologetically unembarrassed about liking Iced Earth.

More than Black Sabbath, even.

[Killer Angel]

Soooo, y'all like it when black metal bands cover crust punk songs? 'Cause oh my god, this cover.

I like also when black metal bands enter into folk territory.

[Nameless]

So, I know everyone hates them, but... yay new Dragonforce video/ song I haven't listened to yet .

[Wavelab]

So, I know everyone hates them, but... yay new Dragonforce video/ song I haven't listened to yet .

That song actually makes me want to get up and go buy the album, it's a much more melodic and orchestrated type of song, not just fast and loud music. Don't get me wrong, I liked Dragonforce before, but it got too much sometimes, but this, I like this.

[eyeofsaulot]

That is a pretty killer cover. Reminds me that I need to listen to Eater of Birds and see if I can actually dig Cobalt.

You definitely should. And if that one doesn't click, give Gin a shot. EoB took me a while to crack, whereas Gin was an immediate click (that managed to get better with every listen anyway).

I want to like Cobalt but for some reason I don't. The drums bug me. It's well made and the music itself is good, but there's something that kind of irks me about it.

But the drums are the best part! ...and the punishing riffs... and the distinctive vocals... and the bizarre lyrics... oh, and the creativity!

But also the drums!

I suppose their debut album War Metal has more 'normal-sounding' drums. Maybe? ish?

[Hawkfrost000]

So, I know everyone hates them, but... yay new Dragonforce video/ song I haven't listened to yet .

YAY!

Its much better than Cry Thunder. Maybe i'll get the new album after all.

DM

[Nameless]

That song actually makes me want to get up and go buy the album, it's a much more melodic and orchestrated type of song, not just fast and loud music. Don't get me wrong, I liked Dragonforce before, but it got too much sometimes, but this, I like this.

YAY!

Its much better than Cry Thunder. Maybe i'll get the new album after all.

DM

I've actually nearly finished the entire album (on the last song now). Literally, the best album since Inhumane Rampage.

I HIGHLY approve.

[Hawkfrost000]

I've actually nearly finished the entire album (on the last song now). Literally, the best album since Inhumane Rampage.

I HIGHLY approve.

Really?

AWESOME. I saw Cry Thunder and wasn't that impressed but after hearing Seasons i'll take you at your word.

To iTunes away!

DM

[Nameless]

Really?

AWESOME. I saw Cry Thunder and wasn't that impressed but after hearing Seasons i'll take you at your word.

To iTunes away!

DM

Well, you could try it out here before buying it and see if it's to your liking.

[Hawkfrost000]

Well, you could try it out here before buying it and see if it's to your liking.

Thanks man, sounds great so far!

DM

[grimbold]

So, I know everyone hates them, but... yay new Dragonforce video/ song I haven't listened to yet .

i'm pretty sure most of us here are nerdy enough to like that band :P

[Faulty]

You definitely should. And if that one doesn't click, give Gin a shot. EoB took me a while to crack, whereas Gin was an immediate click (that managed to get better with every listen anyway).

I disliked Gin.

i'm pretty sure most of us here are nerdy enough to like that band :P

CAN'T STAND 'EM