Daredevil (Netflix)

[t209]

So anybody saw this show on Netflix.
I kinda like how they show the consequences of superhero battle on property, which Hell's Kitchen was turned into hellhole after first Avengers movie.
And kinda right thing to do since the current Hell's Kitchen is now a better-ish neighborhood than the one written during 1960s and 70s.
For me, the first episode is decent and kinda show the hook for upcoming episodes

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I wonder if prison guard was killed by Bullseye

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So any opinions? Too bad that they didn't remake the old Defenders with Hulk and Dr. Strange (Namor is under Universal Studios while Silver Surfer is under Fox). They're more like local hero version of Avengers rather than ad-hoc organization against mystical threat. Dang the hard on for Avengers in Marvel media.

[Zmeoaice]

I haven't seen it, but I know Bullseye doesn't officially appear, but the sniper might be him.

I also know that Matt wears the black outfit for the whole season. Like seriously? We didn't need 13 episodes of him in that outfit. Although I've seen his red costume and it looks... pretty meh. The 2003 version was way better.

If anyone has seen it, does Daredevil go out and kill people on purpose?

[t209]

I haven't seen it, but I know Bullseye doesn't officially appear, but the sniper might be him.

I also know that Matt wears the black outfit for the whole season. Like seriously? We didn't need 13 episodes of him in that outfit.

If anyone has seen it, does Daredevil go out and kill people on purpose?

Well, this was what the black outfit was based on.
http://www.newsarama.com/23094-dared...-iron-man.html
And no Bullseye, dang.
I wonder how would they introduce spiderman.
A. pre-Avengers years
B. combination of Batman Beyond (Peter Parker was wounded during Chitauri invasion and took in Mile Morales as his apprentice).
C. Ultimate Spiderman (white teenager who would die in Civil War movie)

[theNater]

I haven't seen it, but I know Bullseye doesn't officially appear, but the sniper might be him.

I also know that Matt wears the black outfit for the whole season. Like seriously? We didn't need 13 episodes of him in that outfit. Although I've seen his red costume and it looks... pretty meh. The 2003 version was way better.

If anyone has seen it, does Daredevil go out and kill people on purpose?

Just finished binge watching; responses in spoilers. I will say that I didn't intend to binge watch when I sat down for an episode this morning; you can draw conclusions from that.

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I wasn't able to recognize anybody as Bullseye.

We spend a pretty good amount of time with Matt in his street clothes and with other characters, so it's not really 13 episodes of him in the black. I think they could have switched to the red suit a little earlier, but the black one is...functional. It does the job when he's out fighting. I will say that the horns of the red costume work better in profile than head-on.

Your question, though, I'm not going to answer even in spoiler tags. Whether or not he should kill people on purpose is one of the big dramatic questions. Telling how that shakes out over the course of the season would be a gamebreaker. If you want the answer regardless, you can PM me.

[GloatingSwine]

"Does Daredevil go out and kill people" is kinda what the series is about. Also why some problems aren't necessarily solved by punching them.

The show is pretty tightly focused on the story it wants to tell, this isn't Arrow where they just throw characters at the wall and see who sticks, so consequently it doesn't waste any parts of the Daredevil property and doesn't waste time on things that aren't going to eventually matter.

What it does do is put in a large amount of development for all the characters, especially Kingpin.

[Clertar]

The first superhero series, other than Heroes season 1, for which I'll keep the downloaded episodes.

It's like watching a well-done Arrow, instead of a pulpy, Xena-style Arrow

[Chambers]

I just watched 4 episodes and it's great. I really appreciate how they're spending time developing other characters in the story, not just Daredevil. I hope the success of this show will encourage Marvel & Netflix to team up again. Probably just dreaming, but I'd love to see Elektra: Assassin done in the same style.

[ryuplaneswalker]

Show is good, I could live without the "We are on netflix! WE CAN SHOW GOREEE!" thing they are doing, as well as without Fisk pretending he is Nolan Bat and doing the constant threatening whisper

[t209]

So what other teams would Marvel/Disney make?
- Steve Gerber's Defenders (the ad-hoc Avengers with Hulk and Dr. Strange who meet in secret and combat mystical threats).
- New Warriors (including Nova, either Richard Rider or Sam Alexander, which my speculation is that he would crash down to Earth in Civil War to war about Kree-Skrull war or Infinity Gauntlet.)
- Thunderbolts (Since Zemo is going to be in Civil War, I'm pretty sure that it's going to be 90s version rather than Tony's not-SuicideSquad warhounds).
Live Action is good but animated series are bad (at least Web Warriors didn't rely on murdering childhood memories or fan favorites to get ratings).

[BRC]

Daredevil is a wonderful show about a bad egg being brought down by a pair of good Avocados.

[ryuplaneswalker]

So what other teams would Marvel/Disney make?
- Steve Gerber's Defenders (the ad-hoc Avengers with Hulk and Dr. Strange who meet in secret and combat mystical threats).
- New Warriors (including Nova, either Richard Rider or Sam Alexander, which my speculation is that he would crash down to Earth in Civil War to war about Kree-Skrull war or Infinity Gauntlet.)
- Thunderbolts (Since Zemo is going to be in Civil War, I'm pretty sure that it's going to be 90s version rather than Tony's not-SuicideSquad warhounds).
Live Action is good but animated series are bad (at least Web Warriors didn't rely on murdering childhood memories or fan favorites to get ratings).

Part of me would love a breaking badesque series where we watch someone good slowly slide into super villainy, like say Doctor Doom and his rise to power in Latvia.

[SaintRidley]

Watching the second episode now. Quite good so far. Now, I'm wondering if when we hear about Creel in the flashbacks if that's the Carl Creel we see in Agents of SHIELD earlier this season.

[BWR]

So far so good. Well, ok if not actually good. It's lacking a bit compared to Arrow, Flash and current AoS, but so far it's better than the first season of AoS (until Hydra broke loose, that is). However, it's just barely started and finding its feet, so it may turn into something better. It has the potential.

[ryuplaneswalker]

RE The ninja at the start of episode 9

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THAT IS NOT HOW THAT WEAPON IS USED! well not unless you want to horribly maim yourself.

[Clertar]

I just wish they had gotten an actress who actually spoke Spanish for real to play the Dominican lady xD

[Hytheter]

I hope the success of this show will encourage Marvel & Netflix to team up again.

I'm pretty sure they have like 3 or 4 series already in the works.

[comicshorse]

'Jessica Jones'
'Luke Cage'
'Iron Fist'
All leading into 'Marvel's The Defenders'

[SaintRidley]

I just wish they had gotten an actress who actually spoke Spanish for real to play the Dominican lady xD

Hey, don't need to speak the language to be Latina. Not all of us have family histories which allow for us to speak the language.

[Clertar]

Hey, don't need to speak the language to be Latina. Not all of us have family histories which allow for us to speak the language.

Sure, but she's no chicano, she's a first-generation immigrant with a very poor ESL xD

[SaintRidley]

Sure, but she's no chicano, she's a first-generation immigrant with a very poor ESL xD

She's half Puerto Rican, on her mother's side, and born in New York. In her mother's generation and my grandfather's generation, there was a strong drive to assimilate into white American culture - which meant not teaching the children Spanish. Also, we aren't really immigrants - so even if she had been born on the island, that wouldn't be a very correct designation.

[GloatingSwine]

She's half Puerto Rican, on her mother's side, and born in New York. In her mother's generation and my grandfather's generation, there was a strong drive to assimilate into white American culture - which meant not teaching the children Spanish. Also, we aren't really immigrants - so even if she had been born on the island, that wouldn't be a very correct designation.

I think you're talking about different characters.

He's talking about the old lady in the slum flat not Rosario Dawson.

[SaintRidley]

I think you're talking about different characters.

He's talking about the old lady in the slum flat not Rosario Dawson.

Ah, in that case, never mind that.

[themaque]

Watching the second episode now. Quite good so far. Now, I'm wondering if when we hear about Creel in the flashbacks if that's the Carl Creel we see in Agents of SHIELD earlier this season.

They have officaly said that Yes, that is the same Creel as in Shield, when he was much younger, without powers, and still smei-legit.

[Benthesquid]

I'm a bit torn on Vincent D'onofrio as the Kingpin. I mean, he looked the part, and it's not that he's a bad actor, it's just that he always looks as though he might be about to burst into tears, which is a little weird for the role.

[themaque]

I'm a bit torn on Vincent D'onofrio as the Kingpin. I mean, he looked the part, and it's not that he's a bad actor, it's just that he always looks as though he might be about to burst into tears, which is a little weird for the role.

I saw it that way at first as well, As the series went on I realised it's not tears, it's rage that he's constantly keeping in check.

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At the final episode he starts walking and talking a LOT smoother. When he abandons all rpetense at being respectable and really becomes the Kingpin. Or at leaast he will be next time we see him. This is almost as much an origin story for him as well as Daredevil

Now that sony is playing ball with Marvel, I would love to see the Daily Bugle make an apperance on the Netflix shows as well.

[t209]

I saw it that way at first as well, As the series went on I realised it's not tears, it's rage that he's constantly keeping in check.

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At the final episode he starts walking and talking a LOT smoother. When he abandons all rpetense at being respectable and really becomes the Kingpin. Or at leaast he will be next time we see him. This is almost as much an origin story for him as well as Daredevil

Now that sony is playing ball with Marvel, I would love to see the Daily Bugle make an apperance on the Netflix shows as well.

So which Spiderman will they choose? All I know is that it will be a teenager and a good choice if you remember One More Day

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It's a horrible story where Joe Q retcon Peter Parker and Mary Jane marriage to make him "younger". Even other attempts (miscarrying his daughter in Clone Saga, Gwen Stacy being killed at the bridge, etc.) seem lax by comparison.

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- Peter Parker, judging by the fact that he will appear in Civil War and based on Ultimate version, I think he may die to show the collateral damage and child soldiery.
- Miles Morales, a replacement for Peter Parker and may be used to make the movie diverse.
- Both, Peter Parker (adult) got incapacitated during Chitauri invasion and/or retired to raise his family and took in Miles Morales as an apprentice.

[themaque]

- Peter Parker, judging by the fact that he will appear in Civil War and based on Ultimate version, I think he may die to show the collateral damage and child soldiery.
- Miles Morales, a replacement for Peter Parker and may be used to make the movie diverse.
- Both, Peter Parker (adult) got incapacitated during Chitauri invasion and/or retired to raise his family and took in Miles Morales as an apprentice.

I know people reallt want Miles Morales, and I can understand that. But I am willing to put down dollars to donughts that you won't see him for a while.

They are going with a young Teenage Peter Parker, and there is no WAY Sony agreed to let Marvel both introduce and then KILL him in the same film.

[t209]

I know people reallt want Miles Morales, and I can understand that. But I am willing to put down dollars to donughts that you won't see him for a while.

They are going with a young Teenage Peter Parker, and there is no WAY Sony agreed to let Marvel both introduce and then KILL him in the same film.

Even for making way for Miles Morales.

[leafman]

Kevin Feige made a statement that it will be Peter Parker and he will be around 16 years old. I don't think there is any chance Miles Morales will ever get more than a passing reference in the movies. Morales is as unlikely to be Spider-Man in film as we are to get a Spider-Ham movie. I really don't get the love for him (Miles, not Spider-Ham, Spider-Ham is great).

[Kitten Champion]

Even for making way for Miles Morales.

I like Miles Morales, but introducing him to the MCU that way would justifiably infuriate just about everyone short of those who religiously hate Peter Parker and want to see him die.