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2011-01-18, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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I need to read Infernals again. And purchase BWC. There may be hope for evil exalts yet.
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infernals are like candy. delicious, delicious candy. the fact that they can turn other people into candy just makes them all the more sweet.
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
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2011-01-18, 10:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Are Infernals Evil?
Yes, you need to read Infernals again. They are the Everclear to the Abyssal's Thunderbird. In that both are disgusting, but Everclear is so awesome that it's illegal in 14 states, and Thunderbird is hobo wine. Actually, I think my metaphor has gotten away from me.
The point is that Infernals are awesome.5e D&D Mythos Classes
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2011-01-18, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like Abyssals more than Infernals, though since I haven't read most of Infernals yet that may be unfair. And I may be biased since I love the whole champions-of-death theme.
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2011-01-18, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
-James Graham, 1st Marquess of Montrose
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2011-01-18, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, yeah, I loved that section.
My personal favorite idea, that probably has gaping holes in it, is that the Unconquered Sun himself is Ebby's fetich. The creation story of Sol and how it affected the Ebon Dragon sounds literally point-for-point like a slightly stylized version of a Primordial creating his fetich.
EDIT:I need BWC first.Last edited by Mr.Bookworm; 2011-01-18 at 10:42 PM.
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2011-01-18, 10:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 10:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 10:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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We need someone to run an Infernals game where everyone plays a Devil-Tiger, and they combine their powers to extract an Exaltation from someone without killing them, and then use it to go back in time and resurrect the Wolf That Devours All after the Unconquered Sun kills him, so that they can teach the Ebon Dragon the true meaning of friendship without putting new charms in his tree or killing his fetich.
The most obvious hole is the part where they kill the fetich of the Shadow of All Things (who is the one who made the Unconquered Sun) to make the Ebon Dragon in the first place.5e D&D Mythos Classes
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2011-01-18, 10:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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My main problem with Abyssals is... they're Solars. Same reason I can't take drow seriously- the same- ONLY eVIL! And also more powerful, to make up for the fact that these guys are the same. And sure, they're good at killing things. So is every other type of exalt. Maybe hold the DBs. Basing an entire exalt type around something every character is expected to do, namely kill things, is ridiculous. It doesn't feel original. even Necromancy is like a mirror image or Sorcery, with a handful of things it can't do to compesate. Necrotech is kind of cool, but it's just death-themed Magitech.
WW took Solars, painted it black, slapped a new name on it and called it "evil". You might as well just play a Solar with issues.
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2011-01-18, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by SurlySeraph
The Ebon Dragon as a bubbly moe happy-go-lucky girl who gives speeches to the rest of the Primordials on Friendship and the Power of Love?
I can get behind this.
The most obvious hole is the part where they kill the fetich of the Shadow of All Things (who is the one who made the Unconquered Sun) to make the Ebon Dragon in the first place.
There's a developer's essay floating around in here somewhere about why that misconception got started, and why it's been perpetuated.Last edited by Mr.Bookworm; 2011-01-18 at 10:49 PM.
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2011-01-18, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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This reminds me, has anyone tried to stat out Ezio as a Night Caste? Even if it's just early-game Ezio where all he's got are two hidden blades, a short sword, a long sword and some throwing knives.
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2011-01-18, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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I see your point, but Solars don't have nearly as much hierarchy oppressing them, or have to think about getting out from under anyone's thumbs; they're usually the most powerful and independent people they know after they Exalt, instead of being chosen to be cogs in the plans of stronger beings. Despite the Great Curse, Solars also don't tend to get psyche-wrecking problems like "My wife died because I petted too many kittens."
Solars have the whole theme of boundless possibility and optimism. Abyssals aren't GRIMDARK opposites; they have lots of very difficult obstacles that they *can* overcome, raising interesting themes of compromise and acceptance, like how much you're willing to suffer through to do what you believe is the right thing or how you can rationalize going along with Oblivion.
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2011-01-18, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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They're oppressed? Can we scream "whiney emo" any more, please?
I do like the oppression, though. Deathlords were a novel touch, and interesting pieces of the puzzle. And Abyssals aren't supposed to want to pet kittens, since they're cute and fluffy. And the only wives they would be getting are political moves they don't care about anyway, since what is caring in this bleak, depressing world?
Abyssals have obstacles just like every other type of exalt. Solars, Lunars, and Terrestrials all have to deal with the Scarlet empire, Siddies get to worry about Yu-Shan, and Infernals Malfeas.
Their only redeeming quality for me is that if they have the heart to put down their hummingbird-blood inkpen and beat poetry book they can become Curse-less Solars.
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2011-01-18, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-18, 11:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, absolutely. But you asked if "Infernals are Majin Buu".
Green Sun Princes can make akuma.
Tiny yellow man uses Majin Buu's power to make Vegeta into an akuma.
Vegeta is then an akuma.
It supports your theory.
I'm just gonna throw this out there: I think it's what the Immaculates use to teach new trainees how to distinguish the differences between the various Solar types.
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(Somewhere, The Rose Dragon is gaining resonance.)Last edited by Xefas; 2011-01-18 at 11:31 PM.
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Oh, a joke. Those go through the Division of Serenity. I'll need you to fill out these forms and run them to the Cerulean Lute of Harmony before I'm authorized to laugh.
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2011-01-19, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I'm going insane, and I have to ask.
Would anyone be willing to run a DB game? I've got a hankering to play an Immaculate martial artist and every game I'm in dies and leaves me sitting alone in an empty forum going "guys? Guys? I gave you a million chances beforehand to say you couldn't handle this, so I find the 17th iteration of 'midterms are harder than I thought' kind of unpalatable."
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2011-01-19, 01:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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That is kinda interesting. So, the only confirmed fetich kills are Malfeas, Adorjan, and Szorney - but the other Yozi are different from their pre-War selves because they lost plain ol' Third Circle Souls. That does make the Unconquered Sun creation story quite spooky.
Alright. I googled [Ezio "Night Caste"] and got five hits. One was this thread, three of them didn't seem like useful hits, but one of them was this thread on the Exalted forums where they muse on statting up the assassins from Assassin's Creed.5e D&D Mythos Classes
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