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2011-01-22, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
What does it cost to raise an ability from 0 to one rank? Seems like it'd cost nothing, but I don't think that's right.
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2011-01-22, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Unfortunately that's not right.
It costs 3xp.There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
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2011-01-22, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Source? That sounds better, but I can't find any such ruling in the book.
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2011-01-22, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
The one on page 274? Cause that one doesn't say anything about that.
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2011-01-22, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Yeah, that one. It is about the 9th line down from the top, right after "New Trait". I think there was a printing error in the book and the "New trait" line should have been boldfaced, so it is a little confusing. But a new ability (i.e. one at rank 0) costs 3xp.
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2011-01-22, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
I think it's covered as simply "Ability" about halfway down the list (which has a flat rate of 3 XP). There should probably be a gap two lines up from that since it's actually two tables that have been scrunched together: Trait Increase vs. New Trait.
Edit - Yeah, what that Night Caste above me said.Last edited by WalkingTarget; 2011-01-22 at 05:29 PM.
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2011-01-22, 05:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Okay, so which other immaculate style would you guys say has the best synergy with Fire Dragon? I ask because the character I wrote is going to be making a line drive for grandmaster status, and if I'm going to be paying a one mote surcharge on everything I do by gum I'm going to make up for it in other ways.
Also, is there any downside to using Essence Igniting Nerve Strike on someone you know not to be a terrestrial as an immaculate monk? Because it seems to me that if they're not a terrestrial they're fine unless they're anathema, in which case you've just blasted an anathema pretty damn nastily.
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2011-01-22, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Other than the 5m, 1wp cost (which is nothing to sneeze at as a Terrestrial)?
Well, I think you'll end up blasting mortals who have had their essence enlightened somehow. Unlike Godbloods which only have Peripheral pools, I think mortals only have a Personal pool. The Immaculate Order employs mortal monks with enlightened essence, so it might not be a good idea to run around your cloister "flame checking" everyone ala the Pyro/Spy dynamic.5e D&D Mythos Classes
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2011-01-22, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Some sort of Essence Sight might help you. I'm not certain, as it's amazingly ambiguous from source to source as to whether Solar/Primordial/Fire/Water/Death/etc Essence "looks" different when you can see motes and everything. I'd really like to know, definitively, myself.
EDIT: Also, the image is exactly what I had in mind, and it made me lol.
EDIT2: As for your other question, I wholeheartedly vote for Water Dragon after Fire Dragon. Not only because it has a Perfect Defense, but also because I think the Steam motif is cool.Last edited by Xefas; 2011-01-22 at 08:29 PM.
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2011-01-22, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
I was kind of leaning towards water dragon. That or earth dragon, because everything's better with lava.
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2011-01-22, 08:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
If you go Water Dragon, you can stick in an intimacy of "Saunas and Hot Springs (Love)", and play that up as much as possible.
Could be a very memorable character trait.5e D&D Mythos Classes
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2011-01-22, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Golentan, do you mind if I repost that pyro motivator?
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2011-01-22, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 10:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Well, unless they have a shaping defense, in which case you just attacked someone for no effect.
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2011-01-22, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
What do you think would happen if someone botched a roll to summon a demon via thaumaturgy?
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2011-01-22, 11:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Hmm...depends. How about they summon the demon, but it's both angry and, more importantly, some distance away?
Or, you end up summoning more than one angry demon.He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
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2011-01-22, 11:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Do it D&D style! Have them roll on a table!
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1 = Nothing Bad Happens; Yay!
2 = The Demon Is Summoned And Immediately Attacks You At All Costs Without Opportunity to Bargain
3 = Explosion! You take 15 dice of lethal damage
4 = You Accidentally Summon a Different Demon Than You Wanted
5 = You Are Inflicted With A Set of Random Mutations! Roll three times on table 1-B
6 = You Accidentally Summon Malfeas To The Mortal Plane Stripped Of All Of His Surrender Oaths5e D&D Mythos Classes
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2011-01-22, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-22, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
You learn something new every day. Is this from the Rolls of Glorious Divinity?
Though addressing Kami and Examachina is kind of obsolete, since Gaia is off running around in the Wyld with all of her souls, and Autochthon broke his soul hierarchy into a million pieces around the time he left.
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2011-01-23, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Shouldn't the higher number be the better result, if we're adding stunt die?
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2011-01-23, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Well, some of Gaia's souls(greater elemental dragons), plus her Joten are still in creation. Plus, even if she's not in creation, why would it matter? Just because Malfeas is off in elsewhere doesn't mean the term Yozi is obsolete.
Not sure about Autochthon, but he still has his divine ministers, yes?He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
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2011-01-23, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
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It's not made exactly clear what's up with Autochthon's souls, but the Ministers used to be his Third Circle souls, at the very least (with the Core as his fetich). It'll probably get explained some more in CoCD: Autochthon.
Also, are there any MA styles based around archery (with a little a)? There's Golden Exhalation and Righteous Devil for flamepieces, Thousand Wounds Gear and at least one other I can't remember for throwing weapons, but I don't think there are any MAs based around what seems like a fairly obvious style to showcase.Last edited by Mr.Bookworm; 2011-01-23 at 12:55 AM.
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2011-01-23, 12:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Wood Dragon has the Bow as it's form weapon, but doesn't give too many charms that synergize with it well.
And most elementals aren't part of her soul hierarchy, but I'm pretty sure she has souls which are part of the whole arrangement.
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2011-01-23, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
Here's the wiki on her:Gaia.
Her deva's are called Elemental Dragons there.He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
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2011-01-23, 01:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal
I forgot about Wood Dragon, but yeah, it doesn't do it very well.
And most elementals aren't part of her soul hierarchy, but I'm pretty sure she has souls which are part of the whole arrangement.
From my reading of it, Gaia was the one who created the dragon lines and was thus the primary creator of the elementals. So she regards them as her children and has a lot of power over them, but they are not actually a part of her souls.
I can't really see another reading that makes sense or doesn't blatantly contradict something we know to be true.
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The problem is, I'm looking at several different ambiguous sources, at least one of which is simply in-universe knowledge (whoever the man that decided that it would be a great idea to have the writers never communicate needs to have Crack the Sky used on him). And some of this, and some of the readings, contradict canon, like the fact that Creation is not a jouten of Gaia.
Exalted is that girl who cheats on you all the time and may or may not have served time for manslaughter, only she's a chronic lier so you never find out the truth. But she has the Essence pool of a Yozi and the First Ebon Dragon Excellency, so goddamn it you still love her.Last edited by Mr.Bookworm; 2011-01-23 at 01:26 AM.
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