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2012-10-23, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
The answer most people are going to give is NO, BAD.
The answer I would give you is that it should be E6 or higher, and the target has to meet all prereqs, and can only learn charms that both you have, and he has two essence HIGHER than the prereqs for.
(Or if it's only granting charms he could learn anyway, then he only has to meet prereqs, since it's just a training time-bypass)Recent Homebrew: The Socialite | The Crystalline: Memory Altering Construct Race | Sanguine Hand, a ToB Discipline of blood and cruelty
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2012-10-23, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Why not ? Canon example of posthuman Solar is queen K'tula. All tentacly and stuff. Non canon example is my most successful Exalted character ever a Night Caste who spent some time in the Wyld and then was played as classic red dragon. Were it not for the fact that ST got married Creation would be mine.
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2012-10-23, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
The writers seem to agree with you for the most part:
GIFTS OF GREATER GLORY
Cost: —; Mins: Essence 4; Type: Permanent
Keywords: Obvious
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: Scoured Perfection of Form
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The bestowed Charm need not be one that the Infernal knows or is even capable of learning, but it must be one that the target is naturally capable of learning and already meets all required trait minimums and prerequisites for.
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2012-10-23, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
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2012-10-23, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
That's not charmshare: that's simply a training effect that allows the person in question to get charms, rather than simple abilities, attributes, and such.
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2012-10-23, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
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2012-10-23, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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2012-10-23, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Regarding Fluff: Rule 0. There are no Sacred Cows. This is your story.
Continue with cliches as you like.
This is, I think, a good thing. It means that your mind is working in the same way which means you likely understand how that particular charmset is supposed to work enough to see where the logical points of expansion. If you are trying to get a physical perfect defense out of linguistics you should be an Infernal playing with Elloge charms, because that isn't how it works for ability Exalts.
I think that is the actual seduction of Infernals, the understanding of what things can do is expanded drastically. A solar could make some archery charms that improve their short range combat ability (Legolas stabbing with the arrow first sort of thing.) An infernal could make an Adorjan charm that shoots love into someone's heart. (To be fair, Sidereals are often as weird as Infernals. They are just weird across the board instead of weird toward a theme.)Many, many thanks to azuyomi244 for the avatar.
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2012-10-23, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
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2012-10-23, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Except aesthetics, what's the point of making Infernal Relics?
They take the same effort as making a normal artefact (say an Orichalcum Daiklaive) and soaking it in Vitriol, except that the Infernal relic version doesn't offer a Magical Material bonus.Piratebold-Bard by Elder Tsofu | Backer #121 of the Giantitp Kickstarter | My homebrew
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2012-10-23, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
I'm moderately sure that an Infernal relic does, in fact, still provide the magical material bonus of the object it was before being prepared. The reason to do it is to attune to various magical materials at proper harmonization costs instead of doubling everything.
*EDIT* Capstone Sidereal Archery.Last edited by Friv; 2012-10-23 at 02:36 PM.
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2012-10-23, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
It's difficult to import magical materials into Malfeas, for a start.
Also, it's the only way to make Hellforged Wonders, which grant access to spirit charms.
No, that's baptising a Creation-made artifact in vitriol. Infernal relics are artifacts made within the Demon Realm to begin with, and usually aren't constructed out of one of the six magical materials.
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2012-10-23, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
It's not that I hate it. But that charm allows a single person to make N+1 people with access to Exalted charms, which utterly breaks the setting. And, if I have to chose between the setting and a charm idea/mechanics that is mildly interesting, I'm going to chose the setting.
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2012-10-23, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Only as hard as learning Constructive Convergence of Principles. Or just build in Creation.
Also, it's the only way to make Hellforged Wonders, which grant access to spirit charms.
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Are there any advantages to Infernal Relics themselves, or are they just so you can spend more dots to turn them into Hellforged Wonders?Piratebold-Bard by Elder Tsofu | Backer #121 of the Giantitp Kickstarter | My homebrew
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2012-10-23, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
There's also, you know, the relics we already have? That have bonuses comparable, but different than, the MM bonuses?
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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2012-10-23, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 03:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
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2012-10-23, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-23, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Many Missiles Bow Technique. Uses a prayer strip to triple the range of your bow shots for the scene as it's basic effect, and also allows you to transform your shots in flight into things like the following for one mote apiece:
- Boulders etc. Want to shoot someone with a suddenly appearing ACME Anvil? Now you can, and it becomes unblockable as well.
- Glass, so the enemy has to make a perception test to keep track of it, otherwise it becomes unexpected.
- Love, so you fire against a target of their Dodge MDV, and if you hit they suffer an Intimacy of love for the first person they see that will remain strong for about a week.
- Grain, so that a lovely patch of tasty food sprouts where you shoot.
- Fire, which is somewhat self explanatory, but always fun to exploit.
- Health. You hit them, and they regain a number of health levels equal to the Sidereal's archery score. Doesn't work on Aggravated.
- Precipitation. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...
Sidereals. They're just weird."Not trusting me might be the smartest decision you made since getting off of your horse."
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2012-10-23, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XII: One More and Get a Free Deathlord
Most people who live in Malfeas can't learn Primordial charms or visit Creation whenever they please.
Attacks made with form weapons count as unarmed attacks where martial arts charms are concerned.
There has to be a martial art that treats bows as a form weapon.
There is a charm that lets you treat form weapons from one martial art you know as form weapons for any other martial art you know (but I forget the name).
Ergo...
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2012-10-23, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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