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2012-10-22, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-31, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Over on another thread we noticed that the values of Pi, calculated by the area method, for circular spell templates was very wrong. Now there will be some inaccuracy, but as the radius increases then the value should approach 3.14....
5' radius = 4 squares = 100 feet2, so Pi = 4
10' radius =12 squares = 300 feet2, so Pi = 3
20' radius = 44 squares = 1100 feet2, so Pi = 2.75
40' radius = 172 squares = 4300 feet2, so Pi = 2.6875
80' radius = 684 squares = 17100 feet2, so Pi = 2.671875
The value of Pi is too small, and the divergence increases.
If you actually take a pair of compasses and draw a circle on squared paper it is readily apparent that the templates are rounded incorrectly.
Consider the 20' radius
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44 squares, Pi = 2.75
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52 squares, Pi = 3.25.π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-10-31, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Oh come on, WotC gets basic math wrong on a semi-regular basis. You expect them to be capable of simple geometry in any form?
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2012-11-01, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think that's a pretty severe exagerration. Comparing a creature with Toughness to a creature without Toughness, the former is very definitely tougher. 3 HP nearly doubles the survivability of a level 1 wizard, and even a level 1 barbarian is likely to appreciate it, even if there are better options available. If the feat was called Superlative Indestructibility, yeah it'd be pretty awful for it to have such a slim effect. But really, "toughness" describes the entire hit point system; all D&D characters are so "tough" that they can fight until they're one Inflict Minor Wounds away from dropping unconscious, without even slight impairment. "Extra Toughness" would be a better name for this Feat, as that would make it compare to Extra Rage, Extra Turning, Extra Music and the like, though with a less than favorable exchange rate. It's not that 3 HP doesn't help, just that it doesn't help anywhere near enough.
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2012-11-01, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Toughness is not worse than Azure toughness. Azure toughness, with no additional e, gives you three temporary hit points per day; they can't be healed. If you have no healing, the two are interchangeable at level 1 and Azure will improve eventually while normal will not. But how many games will you not be getting healed at least once during your adventuring day? Azure is much worse unless you can get multiple e into it, which for most characters is only possible starting at level 6. And Improved Toughness isn't available until level 6 period. (I don't know Unholy Toughness or Faerie Mysteries Initiate, but at the very least they sound like they force your character down certain conceptual paths.)
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2012-11-01, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, that is one useful STI....
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2012-11-01, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2012-11-01, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
couple of things:
regardless of opinions, there are a few factual inaccuracies here:
azure toughness gives you 3 hp per essentia invested, not just 3hp. it also gives another point of essentia, which is really quite difficult to get, and boosts your versatility. independent of AT's own function, this essentia point can be put in melds, class features, orhter feats, or whatever, so it offers as much versatility as you want it to.
improved toughness is available at 1 if you have a good fort save. 6 is only true if you straight class or multiclass through multiple poor fort save classes since it requires a base fort of +2.
unholy toughness is not to my knowledge a feat, but a special ability some undead (including dry lich) and many PF monsters have that gives them their cha to hp at each level like con to help with their hp.
farie mysteries initiate can give a number of different effects, but the relevant one for this discussin is that it lets you use your int for bonus hp instead of con. it's from dragon 319I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2012-11-01, 12:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I know that. It's 3 HP when you have only 1 e or when your "maximum e invested in each feat" limit is 1, which as I said is generally the case prior to 6th level.
it also gives another point of essentia, which is really quite difficult to get
improved toughness is available at 1 if you have a good fort save.
farie mysteries initiate can give a number of different effects, but the relevant one for this discussin is that it lets you use your int for bonus hp instead of con. it's from dragon 319
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2012-11-01, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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3E = 3.0 and 3.5 collectively. And being elf-only does not make it any less of an STD (by a flippantly bass-ackward definition of the D there). If anything it's funnier this way.
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2012-11-08, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Its possible to Sunder a worn Headband of Intellect, but doing so will not hurt the wearer.
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-11-08, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
This makes a reasonable degree of sense; among the samurai in feudal Japan, one of the greatest ways to prove your skill as a swordsman was to split your opponent's helmet without splitting his head. You just need to place the stroke just right; it's like trying to stop a train on a particular inch of track - insanely difficult, but not impossible, if you're really that good at calculating exactly how much force to apply and when.
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2012-11-08, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-08, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
A large portion of game terminology in and of itself only has meaning as granted by players, not actually within the rules.
for instance, Sword of the Arcane Order and Battle blessing refer to Wizard spells and Paladin spells respectively, but these actually have no definition in game. We take these to mean respectively spells found on the wizard spell list, and spells the paladin has cast.My Homebrew: found here.
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2012-11-08, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I always thought it was more like a metal circlet, but if it is cloth or leather, then it makes perfect sense to think that you can slip the tip of your sword under it and then cut outward with little trouble.
(It of course makes a bit less sense if you use a bludgeoning weapon....)
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2012-11-08, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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I dunno, I think you're kind of stretching for possibilities here. Getting an object that is hugging a person's scalp off and breaking it in one move without harming them strikes me as a highly delicate operation, considering the last character I played who sundered stuff went around doing stuff like cutting down a heavy metal (I think steel, might've been adamantine) door in a round. (The DM made the oopsie of having the hinges on our side when I asked, so that helped.)
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2012-11-08, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-11-08, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-08, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Ironically, it's probably easier to precisely cut a thin strip of cloth than to slice through steel without going too far; you can use less force and more control, and it's softer than the skull rather than harder.
(I make no attempt to justify just how easy it actually is, of course.)
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2012-11-09, 12:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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a Cantrip spell that is essentially the Druid's combat ressurection from WoW. called Clocking Out. The Goblins/Kobolds then go home to the wife and kids having (painfully) earned a day's
incomeProfession (Punchingbag) check. In the campaign setting, the Goblins and Kobolds are Unionized.My Homebrew: found here.
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2012-11-09, 12:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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there are a number of limiting factors though:
1: The kobold/Goblin must be unionized to be able to be affected by the spell
2: They must have been On the Clock when they died.
3: They are Magically barred from the dungeon till the end of the current adventure. Janitorbolds repreparing the sewers and traps do not count as an adventure.
4: PCs can not become unionized
5: The union is to provide a guild which provides moderately challenging XP and loot for low level adventurers at low cost to the kobold and goblin populouses.
6: Please report to your Dragonwrought guild officer if you have further questions.Last edited by toapat; 2012-11-09 at 12:30 AM.
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2012-11-09, 02:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Damaging a magic item in any way instantly destroys its magic powers, so no cutting the Headband off someone's head is not a disarm. Slipping it over the top of their head without damage, so that you can immediately put it on your head, that's a disarm.
(You could make an argument for phylacteries that the strap holding it in place isn't actually part of the magic item, since the part that sits in front of your forehead is really the important thing, but if the item is actually called a headband, then I assume the strap is part of the item and thus part of making the magic work.)
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2012-11-09, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Just swing the sword so that the tip of the blade barely brushes the skin while slicing the band. Of course, that takes a LOT of skill in and of itself…
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2012-11-09, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.
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2012-11-09, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd rather hit the head without damaging the headband, personally. I could use a Headband of Int, I have a P-Chem exam Monday.
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