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GUIDES
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Guide to General Common Jungler Set-Ups, by Mtg_player_zach
Small Guide to Jungle Counterpicking, by Winthur
General Guide to AD Carries
Into the Wild - Guide to Being a Better Jungler by Mtg_player_zach
Seizing the fourth digit: Playing your way out of Elo Hell. by Math_Mage
Faulty and Raistlin's Quick Build Database: Notes and Stuff by Faulty and Raistlin
Turning Skill Into Elo: Solo Queue Mindset And Methodology by MathMage
How to be a Good Team Leader by Darth Mario
Specific Champions
Riven 101, by Arbitrarity
Highly Artistic Blitzcrank guide, by Dogmantra
Laser Bear Udyr, by Djinn_In_Tonic
Rammus: Can't touch this, by Math_Mage
Twitch, by Djinn_In_Tonic
Jungle Akali by Djinn
How to play everyone's favourite Lightning Squirrel by Dogmantra
Lee Sin by Dralnu
Super Serious Rumble Guide by Dogmantra
Jax by Mtg_player_zach
OH SNAP Morgana Can Jungle by Dogmantra
Anivia Guide by Eldariel
Tristana by MathMage
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SpoilerJungle Janna!
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e.o.n Shen
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Ezreal Custom Skin Spotlight
I Just Got Ganked
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Combinasion BOOM! League of Legends
All in the Cards
No One Ganks Like Garen
Rammus Taunts Everyone
COMICS AND PICS
It's like your eyes are getting a massage.Spoiler
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Learn Your Alphabet by Dogmantra and Pierreabelard (with a mention in Summoner Showcase #36!)
Chibi Champions by pika7
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TRAVEL BACK IN TIME: PREVIOUS THREADS
Proof we're not all experiencing collective haullucinations.
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League of Legends XXIX: Are Nerfs Vayne In This Grave Situation?
League of Legends XXVIII: Ahri-Vederci, Dodge. Hello, Viktory.
League of Legends XXVII: Your Sister's Hotter
League of Legends XXVI: We've officially jumped the shark
League of Legends XXV: Who is your Summoner, and what does he do?
League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
League of Legends XXIII: gunbladeface.jpg
League of Legends XXII: Teamwork OP, Nerf Nao
League of Legends XXI: For The Love Of God Amumu, Stop Crying!
League of Legends XX: Riot's in the Playground
League of Legends XIX: 15 million players, and nary a Morgana
League of Legends: XVIII: ┻━┻ ︵ (╯°□°)╯
League of Legends XVII: Gondor Has No Tank, Gondor Needs No Tank
League of Legends XVI: Alas, Poor Game Balance, I Knew Him, Morello
League of Legends XV: Robots Are Better Than Trees
League of Legends XIV: We're So Broken That We're OP!
League of Legends XIII: Our Skill is Hard to Deny
League of Legends XII: It's Worth It Because I Said So In The Thread
League of Legends XI: It's Hard to Post Like This in Heels
League of Legends X: Armored Armadillo Delivers Ambiguous Affirmative
League of Legends IX: New Thread Available! Only 6300 IP!
League of Legends VIII: Gali-Os: They're idolicious!
League of Legends 7: Truly, Truly Outrageous!
League of Legends 6: Jannaaaaaaaaaa!
League of Legends 5: Tall Grass Used Garen! DEMACIAAA!
League of Legends 4:CAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW
League of Legends 3: You only need to click once
League of Legends Goes Where It Pleases 2
League Of Legends: We post where we please.
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2012-02-08, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Literally, as you were making a new thread and I was just clicking Preview to check if everything was alright in the new thread I made, I saw you already made a new thread. Hurrdurr.
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2012-02-08, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I suppose when one of Djinn's suggestions is competing against another one of Djinn's suggestions, Djinn is the person who gets the tiebreaking vote.
Writings and music:
How To Be A Good Team Leader
Champion Rap Battles: Brolaf vs. Gentleman Cho'Gath
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2012-02-08, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yay! New threads always smell great.
...this one smells... different somehow though...
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2012-02-08, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yay! Free Maokai week! I really like Maokai for some reason. Bulky, good initiator, and he's a tree! That can really come in handy sometimes.
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And his saplings are just SOOOO cute. I love how they go "WHEEEEEE!!!" when you thrown them. They're so affectionate too, all they want is a hug.
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2012-02-08, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've started streaming again.
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
I started my first campaign outside of an abandoned mine, just as soon as a meteor storm from the moon hits.
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I made a sporcle game: Name all 92 champions.
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In a Wonderland they lie, Dreaming as the days go by, Dreaming as the summers die - Ever drifting down the stream - Lingering in the golden gleam - Life, what is it, but a dream?
- Lewis Carroll
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I got 83 on my first try. I tried to remember characters via relationships, like "Lux > Garen > Jarvan > Swain > Leblanc > Veigar > Teemo > Tristana > Rumble > Heimerdinger > Corki > Blitzcrank > Viktor" and so forth. Thus, the characters that I missed were ones that really didn't have any notable relationships with anyone, like Malphite and Orianna.
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2012-02-08, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I got 77 I think.
I forgot a lot of characters who I don't really care about but I also somehow forgot Malzahar and Talon (JUNGLE TALON MAN) and Trundle.
Also I am interested in what people think of my ward rework, it was at the end of the last thread in an edit so:
also I was thinking, right this is how wards should word:
Sight/Vision Ward duration scales with gold value of your items, starting at one minute, +15 seconds or so per thousand gold's worth of items you have.
Wriggle's Lantern no longer grants a ward. Zhonya's Ring was split into Hat/Hourglass because it was the most powerful offensive and the most powerful defensive item, so why on earth does Wriggle's still have that?
New items
Vision Beacon: to deal with pesky stealthies, this is like a ward, and reveals stealth, but doesn't grant vision by default, so to get use out of it you need to pop it down somewhere where you already have vision, or drop CVs/Hawkshots/Mushrooms/Sight Wards on it. The reason you'd ever want this over a vision ward is that it lasts three minutes by default, I thought it was kind of unfair and maybe made Eve/Twitch/Shaco a bit OP if you couldn't antistealth them as easily with wards.
Regrowth Pendant + Amplifying Tome -> Everburning Torch. Some stats, and the old active from Wriggle's (except the ward scales with gold now)
Everburning Torch + Giant's Belt -> Piltover Mining Helmet. Some more stats, the active off Everburning Torch, but the wards stack up to three if you don't constantly keep placing them. Also, UNIQUE PASSIVE: Increases ward duration by X seconds. Maybe 15.
Mana Manipulator + Null Magic Mantle -> Yordle Backpack. Stats, the mana manip aura, and UNIQUE PASSIVE: this item stores one stack of consumables. The first consumable you buy after this item will be put into the backpack. UNIQUE ACTIVE: use one of the consumables in the backpack.BANG → !
OH LOOK AT HER/.../YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN/YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN MEAN/RICHARDS
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2012-02-08, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's interesting, but I *really* dislike it. Supports are the common ward purchasers, and scaling wards with gold means that supports have to buy MORE of them to achieve the same effect, and with a 1 minute duration they're not very good at protecting against ganks, meaning that lanes will play even more passively than they do now.
Wards now absorb a much large portion of a team's gold, reduction incentives to purchase them.
The only good fix would be to have SEVERAL items granting extra wards, and design those items to synergize well with support characters, which I'm not convinced you've managed to do with your suggestions. It's a start, but the items aren't quite useful enough for what becomes a mandatory purchase.
I feel the entire idea is a bit counter-productive.Last edited by Djinn_in_Tonic; 2012-02-08 at 12:08 PM.
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2012-02-08, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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This wouldn't work for several reasons. The main reason being that wards are bought the entire game. So having nerfed wards early game means you are going to be spending more gold on wards than before (and perhaps more importantly porting more often). This would not encourage buying more items.
The second being that somebody is always going to be getting less farm no matter what. There are 5 champions on a team and 4 sources of gold and experience (Top, Mid, Bot lane, and jungle). If you try and share farm bottom, then both characters will be underfarmed. 0cs exists for a reason. You can't get rid of it. Take your gold seals and quints, build your philo stone and accept it, (or play something super aggressive and get mass kills and build 4 wriggles).
Edit: Djinn so ninja.
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It should mean that nofarm support dies a well deserved death, which is what I think needs to happen. I think it helps to emphasise that if you're going to ward it should be a team effort. And it encourages quality of warding over quantity.
Plus, I disagree that the lanes will play more passively. I think that wards in a lot of cases are just a crutch for subpar map awareness, especially during mid-late laning phase. I find that putting a ward in the bush or river ends up teaching players to rely on that ward too often in a lot of cases. I think it's better if you pay attention to other lanes and the jungler since it's a) free and b) teaches better map awareness. If you see the jungler just attempted to gank bottom (and you should see this more often because ganking should be easier when there are fewer wards) then you can afford to push up a bit, play more aggressively, or go for a kill without fear. That's just one of the ways that better map awareness covers for lack of wards. There are a couple of situations where warding is going to be better than analysis of your opponents' actions, but they're surprisingly rare. Try playing a few games where no-one's allowed to ward (minus free ones off Wriggle's, no point wasting it) but you have to communicate health totals of your opponents, how they left the lane if they're missing, mention every time you spot the jungler, sometimes go and check out his camps to see if he's been there recently. You'd be surprised how easy it is to not get ganked.
Doubleplus those changes should also kill the ol' ward in bottom bush which I also despise.
EDIT: I think a big part is how differently we look at the game though.Last edited by Dogmantra; 2012-02-08 at 12:41 PM.
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2012-02-08, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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I guess ill just repeat this since it apperently got overlooked.
Lord_khaine got a smurf on the NA server by the creative name of Lordkhaine.
Anyway, the trouble with not having wards around is that map awareness can only take you so long, especaly when the enemy has a member who are permanently lurking in the jungle doing gods know what to the poor local wildlife.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-02-08, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, yes. But I don't think a mandatory Map Awareness Tax solves the problem well at all. Honestly, either a change in last-hitting mechanics or a strong increase in the team value of support items would be my recommended ways to lessen the 0cs game.
And it encourages quality of warding over quantity.
Plus, I disagree that the lanes will play more passively. I think that wards in a lot of cases are just a crutch for subpar map awareness, especially during mid-late laning phase.
Try playing a few games where no-one's allowed to ward (minus free ones off Wriggle's, no point wasting it) but you have to communicate health totals of your opponents, how they left the lane if they're missing, mention every time you spot the jungler, sometimes go and check out his camps to see if he's been there recently. You'd be surprised how easy it is to not get ganked.
And it's easy to not get ganked. But it's easier and allows me to play more aggressively when I have not only my own awareness and prediction abilities, but also actual visual information on my enemy's locations and movements. I like being able to tactically ward dragon, Red, and Blue to promote invasions and fights, and being able to ward key map locations to see enemy movement. It's a huge part of the game, and I don't think your proposed change will make wards at ALL valuable early-game.
EDIT: I think a big part is how differently we look at the game though.
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2012-02-08, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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the only "real" way to counter act the "warding problem" is limit how often wards can be bought, which is it's own can of worms.
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Meh, 73, real junk for how often I play this game. My brain freezes up on Sporcle.
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Just a btw: I can't play Vlad.
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2012-02-08, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-02-08, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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HoN / Dota has limited ward purchases, seems to work out fine there.
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2012-02-08, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Heh, what if Clairvoyance revealed wards?
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2012-02-08, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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While this is certainly true to a certain extend, wards are still more potent in the hand of 'better' players (for example, see any professional tournament - top uses 1 ward, mid usually 2, bot has also 1-2). Additionally most aggression happens from the party that has the superior vision (if you know there is a weakness, you attack. If you are not certain, you probably wont risk a death).
A good example of this is Rammus - his ability to gank while mostly ignoring wards is one of his main strenghts and forces players to play more defensively. If any jungler had that strenght by virtue of no wards being present, everybody would be forced into a more defensive role.
If you would remove the vision from any lane, it would force the player(s) there to be more passive, as they lack most intel. Additionally a lack of (or reduction in quantity of) wards would probably mean that CV would become even more important, an issue that has been addressed lately. Reversing that could in the worst case scenario also mean that top lanes need to sport an additional CV...
If anything, a cost increase in ward cost (or any nerf of their functionality) will probably increases the burden on support players in most higher level game..
I really cant see that happening much, especially if there are no wards - if you are on your lane, everybody knows when you leave, which sets you up nicely for the jungler waiting at said camp with the player(s) from the closest lane...
What really needs to happen in the warding game though is the split of Wriggles from its active - perhaps putting it on a new item with pure support stats (maybe GP/5 + some weak regen for each nearby allied champion, built from Rejuvenation Bead and Faerie charm).
The weak regeneration if solo would keep most other players from buying it, and if it builds into nothing, its not as interesting as Philo or HoG for them.
In either case, current Wriggles has become such a standard item on so many characters (current metagame has up to three Wriggles in one team (Top, Jungle, Carry), it deserves a nerf...
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So Xypherous is openly talking about the new champions abilities on the LoL forum. Apparently plays like Amumu/Leona, is AP, and will be played as a jungler.
He is an old sailor that uses an anchor for a weapon. Abilities known so far:
Q: Launches the Anchor. Pulls himself towards any terrain hit. If he strikes an enemy, he pulls himself towards the enemy while pulling the enemy towards him. kind of like a mix of Amumu and Blitz Q.
W: Some form of shield that makes people not want to hit you.
E: Slow version of Tidehunter's ult, keeping enemies close to you unless they choose to run and get cc'd by the spikes.
R: Homing tidal burst that travels up to a maximum amount of time towards a target/until it hits the target. blows up things it hits along the way, blows up and stuns on impact of actual target.
On how he is going to play:
Spoiler..Hm...
His Q is halfway between Amumu and Blitzcrank, but based on the range it will feel more like one or the other. Since it has a minimum drag distance for the opponent, up close, you can reset an enemy's position if they escape. Far away though, you'll move much farther to them.
It has the added dimensionality of interacting with terrain, which means his gameplay is much more straightforward - he's not going to ambush you from behind a wall - because he can't shoot through the wall. He's going to come rushing out and attempting to hook you or aim it so that he can hit guaranteed terrain behind you.
His passive gives him a heavy incentive to switch targets in a fight - and his shield, if used in the right time in a fight, will add heavy DPS incentives if he's ignored. His initiation is more reliable but less controlled - so, a quick hookshot into an ultimate can ambush unwary foes. There's some interesting play patterns here. His overall theme is delayed but powerful effects.
A lot of the challenge of this guy was properly conveying the heft, size, and power that he looks like he has - which meant trying to find delayed effects that also feel gratifying and powerful.Brocham
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